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1969k10stepside · 02-27-2007, 06:14 PM

Im getting ready to run some brake lines all through the chassis of the shortfleet 4x4 before the cab goes on to save me some trouble.Do ya think I should spend the money and get pre bent lines or do it my self?What about stainless lines,yes or no?The truck isnt going to be a show truck but a nice D.D./weekend cruiser.Where do y'all buy the kits if you have pre bent lines and about how much does a kit run?Any other advice?....

**Yukon Jack** · 02-27-2007, 06:19 PM

I bet you can do it yourself alot cheaper than a kit. Rent or buy a quality tube bender. I know I have read here some comments about the kits needing rebending to make them work. Definitely get it done before you start putting the sheetmetal back on - will be alot easier. I sure wouldn't waste my money on stainless steel for a d.d. The last ones lasted until now - the new ones will last a long time.

LUV2XCLR8 · 02-27-2007, 06:21 PM

I did not do all of mine, but I had to redo the Master Cyl. kit due to a leak,
it was 4 lines, they were pre-bent, they are Stainless, and I got mine from
Tim at www.christiansclassics.com (They are not listed there, ya gotta call
him at the store, but the number is toll free) I was very happy with the kit.

JAKES 68GMC · 02-27-2007, 06:22 PM

What do you need brakes for????

1969k10stepside · 02-27-2007, 06:23 PM

I dont want to nearly drive through the wall of the shop like when the m/c went out on the 69 4x4

JAKES 68GMC · 02-27-2007, 06:31 PM

You need to learn how to stop with the clutch, Dustin.

cdowns · 02-27-2007, 06:36 PM

you can save quite a bit of money if you feel comfortable double flaring and bending the lines yourself// i'd buy stainless prebent from the master to prop valve and from prop valve to the frame then fab and bend the rest myself if i wanted to do a brake job that way getting the best of both worlds a cheaper price and the look of stainless where it's most visable in the engine compt

69TowRig · 02-27-2007, 11:14 PM

I agree with the "bend it yourself" crowd, at least you can know they will fit correctly. Don't forget good hoses! I got mine from xtremecrawlers.com as they are a Crown hose distributor (the best hoses hands-down).

LUV2XCLR8 · 02-27-2007, 11:21 PM

The kit I bought from Tim is exactly what Cdowns described, it is the only
thing visible in the engine bay w/ out the use of undercarriage mirrors

Joe67 · 02-28-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969k10stepside

Im getting ready to run some brake lines all through the chassis of the shortfleet 4x4 before the cab goes on to save me some trouble.Do ya think I should spend the money and get pre bent lines or do it my self?What about stainless lines,yes or no?The truck isnt going to be a show truck but a nice D.D./weekend cruiser.Where do y'all buy the kits if you have pre bent lines and about how much does a kit run?Any other advice?....

I went with www.inlinetube.com
I went stainless because I'm doing a ground up restoration. Anything else and I would have sent with standard steel lines for sure.

Their customer service is A+ and everything fit like great with very minor tweaking by hand

**CUSTOM/10** · 02-28-2007, 09:00 AM

I buy SS tubing & fittings and bend all my own lines. Your smart to do it before the body goe's on, it's much easier. If you buy SS tubing make sure it's the annealed stuff ( in a role ) the straight stuff looks nicer ( Very straight runs ) but it's very hard to double flare. Get yourself a quality flaring tool not a Walmart special.

Gary

**special-K** · 02-28-2007, 09:01 AM

I used InlineTube in ss for my rear axle.It`s purdy,fit perfect,and comes with coil-wrap as oem.Through the frame is easy.But,I`d go all stainless on a totally new,all component,system and use a non-corrosive silicone fluid.The stainless doesn`t cost much more and pitting,frozen parts,and pinholes will be a thing of the past.Especially on a truck that sits a good bit.I haven`t seen a truck with all orginal hydraulics.

**BAD4X4** · 02-28-2007, 09:13 AM

I bought the stainless kit from inlinetube, for my swb 4x4 and they fit great..... I'm with joe67

Inthuwind · 02-28-2007, 01:35 PM

Very good info--I'm at that stage too, with the cab off. Thanks everyone.

bigblock69 · 02-28-2007, 03:00 PM

I just finished my brake lines. I bought the kit from inline tube. Very little modification was needed, just a little extra tweek needed at places. I would stick with OEM if it is not a show truck. OEM is alot better to work with. Easy to doulbe flare and manipulate if alterations are needed.

COACHMEASON · 02-28-2007, 03:20 PM

Do you have to redo the all the brake lines when you shorten a frame??

Joe67 · 02-28-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COACHMEASON

Do you have to redo the all the brake lines when you shorten a frame??

I would think only the main line that runs the length of the frame has to be adjusted.

70c10 · 02-28-2007, 03:22 PM

Another option for a non-show truck is the new stuff that NAPA has now!. It's a coated line that is bendable by hand!. Awesome product!!!!. You have to see it in person. My 2 cents.

Joe67 · 02-28-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70c10

Another option for a non-show truck is the new stuff that NAPA has now!. It's a coated line that is bendable by hand!. Awesome product!!!!. You have to see it in person. My 2 cents.

That sounds interesting - I haven't seen that yet

70c10 · 03-01-2007, 07:51 AM

Joe, NAPA just got it in about 2 months ago. The manager told me a vendor at SEMA had a display and they were so impressed they decided to carry it. He handed me a brake line off the rack and told me to bend it like a pretzel. I couldn't believe it. The bends were smooth with NO kinks!. I tried finding it online on the NAPA site but couldn't. Try your local store.

Huck · 03-01-2007, 09:06 AM

On a 2x4 truck with a small block or 6cyl, I would tend to bend my own. I just looked at replacing my front hoses on a 4x4 blazer----even hoisted up on my 4 poster lift, I could barely see the freakin hose to tube connection behind the exhaust, frame, linkage crap. I can't imagne trying to form/bend tubing to fit into those two areas without going nuts! If doing a restore, I would highly recommend replacing all the brake lines prior to installing body, engine, trans, etc.

byrd · 03-01-2007, 09:14 AM

3rd for inline tube prebent. I went with stainless because it lasts forever, and just looks really purrty. I also used their stainless ebrake kit as well. All parts a re top quality and their customer service is second to none!!

5150 · 03-01-2007, 11:24 AM

I'd be interested in those lines from Napa. I work at O'Reilly's but maybe I can get them through work with my discount. If anybody gets a name or manufacturer I'd appreciate it.

Dustin, I'm a cheapa$$ but I also know I have no patience so I'd probably go pre-bent like Luv said-Just where it is seen.

msgross · 03-01-2007, 12:15 PM

I asked the NAPA guy about those new lines and he hadn't heard of them yet. He suggested that I just use their 25ft roll of aluminized steel lines (easy to bend) and do it myself. They also sell straight runs with ends at different lengths. I am at this point as well so thanks for the advice. That inline kit runs $300+ with cables though...

70c10 · 03-01-2007, 03:44 PM

The lines at NAPA are called polyarmor but I couldn't find them on their website.

02-27-2007, 06:14 PM	#1
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,020	Brake lines.... Im getting ready to run some brake lines all through the chassis of the shortfleet 4x4 before the cab goes on to save me some trouble.Do ya think I should spend the money and get pre bent lines or do it my self?What about stainless lines,yes or no?The truck isnt going to be a show truck but a nice D.D./weekend cruiser.Where do y'all buy the kits if you have pre bent lines and about how much does a kit run?Any other advice?....

02-27-2007, 06:19 PM	#2
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Re: Brake lines.... I bet you can do it yourself alot cheaper than a kit. Rent or buy a quality tube bender. I know I have read here some comments about the kits needing rebending to make them work. Definitely get it done before you start putting the sheetmetal back on - will be alot easier. I sure wouldn't waste my money on stainless steel for a d.d. The last ones lasted until now - the new ones will last a long time. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

02-27-2007, 06:21 PM	#3
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,476	Re: Brake lines.... I did not do all of mine, but I had to redo the Master Cyl. kit due to a leak, it was 4 lines, they were pre-bent, they are Stainless, and I got mine from Tim at www.christiansclassics.com (They are not listed there, ya gotta call him at the store, but the number is toll free) I was very happy with the kit. __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

02-27-2007, 06:22 PM	#4
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: Brake lines.... What do you need brakes for????

02-27-2007, 06:23 PM	#5
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,020	Re: Brake lines.... I dont want to nearly drive through the wall of the shop like when the m/c went out on the 69 4x4

02-27-2007, 06:31 PM	#6
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: Brake lines.... You need to learn how to stop with the clutch, Dustin.

02-27-2007, 06:36 PM	#7
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Brake lines.... you can save quite a bit of money if you feel comfortable double flaring and bending the lines yourself// i'd buy stainless prebent from the master to prop valve and from prop valve to the frame then fab and bend the rest myself if i wanted to do a brake job that way getting the best of both worlds a cheaper price and the look of stainless where it's most visable in the engine compt __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

02-27-2007, 11:14 PM	#8
69TowRig Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 894	Re: Brake lines.... I agree with the "bend it yourself" crowd, at least you can know they will fit correctly. Don't forget good hoses! I got mine from xtremecrawlers.com as they are a Crown hose distributor (the best hoses hands-down). __________________ -Chris Building a stripper, one part at a time: 1969 K5, 307, 3spd, 3 seats, hard top. Added Pwr Discs, Pwr Steering, Aux Battery, T-case Skid, Lighted Sidemarkers, HEI, Lock-Right Diff, ECE Class IV Hitch, 32" MT/Rs. Parts to Install: Hand Throttle, Console, Tow Hooks, Dual Horns, AM-FM, Dealer Swing-Away Tire Carrier, Gas Tank Skid. Also building a 1950 Willys CJ-3A and off-roading a 2001 Nissan Frontier on 1-Ton Portals...

02-27-2007, 11:21 PM	#9
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,476	Re: Brake lines.... The kit I bought from Tim is exactly what Cdowns described, it is the only thing visible in the engine bay w/ out the use of undercarriage mirrors __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

02-28-2007, 09:00 AM	#11
CUSTOM/10 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sandown, NH Posts: 2,810	Re: Brake lines.... I buy SS tubing & fittings and bend all my own lines. Your smart to do it before the body goe's on, it's much easier. If you buy SS tubing make sure it's the annealed stuff ( in a role ) the straight stuff looks nicer ( Very straight runs ) but it's very hard to double flare. Get yourself a quality flaring tool not a Walmart special. Gary __________________ Gary 72 SWB 4x4 My 72 SWB Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259859

02-28-2007, 09:01 AM	#12
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Brake lines.... I used InlineTube in ss for my rear axle.It`s purdy,fit perfect,and comes with coil-wrap as oem.Through the frame is easy.But,I`d go all stainless on a totally new,all component,system and use a non-corrosive silicone fluid.The stainless doesn`t cost much more and pitting,frozen parts,and pinholes will be a thing of the past.Especially on a truck that sits a good bit.I haven`t seen a truck with all orginal hydraulics. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-28-2007, 09:13 AM	#13
BAD4X4 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: La pine Oregon Posts: 1,668	Re: Brake lines.... I bought the stainless kit from inlinetube, for my swb 4x4 and they fit great..... I'm with joe67 __________________ 1972 Cheyenne K-30 6"lift {502 PROJECT} 1972 Cheyenne K-30 8"lift 454 450hp {Ol'Blue} 1972 Cheyenne K-20 Custom Stretch 6" lift 454 1972 Custom Deluxe K-20 4" lift 2007 GMC Crew Cab Diesel 6"lift {The Tow Rig 2017 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 6.7 6"lift (Wife's) 1977 El Camino SS Grandpa baught new 1986 K-30 Crew Cab 502 1955 Chevy 2-Door gasser 454 550hp{project} 1956 Chevy Bel-Air 2-Door hardtop 572 700hp 1979 Ford F-350 All Original 4x4 (Wife's)

02-28-2007, 01:35 PM	#14
Inthuwind Straight jacket required Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 882	Re: Brake lines.... Very good info--I'm at that stage too, with the cab off. Thanks everyone. __________________ 1968 C10 Short Stepper 350/350 A/C P/S P/B Front disc 3/5 static/ 12bolt rear 3:73 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 10th Anniversary/455/4spd 2011 H-D Street Glide - CAMMED n lowered Dad always said,"Son, if you can't be good...be good at it."

02-28-2007, 03:00 PM	#15
bigblock69 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 26	Re: Brake lines.... I just finished my brake lines. I bought the kit from inline tube. Very little modification was needed, just a little extra tweek needed at places. I would stick with OEM if it is not a show truck. OEM is alot better to work with. Easy to doulbe flare and manipulate if alterations are needed. Last edited by bigblock69; 02-28-2007 at 03:01 PM.

02-28-2007, 03:20 PM	#16
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02-28-2007, 03:22 PM	#18
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Re: Brake lines.... Another option for a non-show truck is the new stuff that NAPA has now!. It's a coated line that is bendable by hand!. Awesome product!!!!. You have to see it in person. My 2 cents. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

03-01-2007, 07:51 AM	#20
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Re: Brake lines.... Joe, NAPA just got it in about 2 months ago. The manager told me a vendor at SEMA had a display and they were so impressed they decided to carry it. He handed me a brake line off the rack and told me to bend it like a pretzel. I couldn't believe it. The bends were smooth with NO kinks!. I tried finding it online on the NAPA site but couldn't. Try your local store. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

03-01-2007, 09:06 AM	#21
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	Re: Brake lines.... On a 2x4 truck with a small block or 6cyl, I would tend to bend my own. I just looked at replacing my front hoses on a 4x4 blazer----even hoisted up on my 4 poster lift, I could barely see the freakin hose to tube connection behind the exhaust, frame, linkage crap. I can't imagne trying to form/bend tubing to fit into those two areas without going nuts! If doing a restore, I would highly recommend replacing all the brake lines prior to installing body, engine, trans, etc.

03-01-2007, 11:24 AM	#23
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Re: Brake lines.... I'd be interested in those lines from Napa. I work at O'Reilly's but maybe I can get them through work with my discount. If anybody gets a name or manufacturer I'd appreciate it. Dustin, I'm a cheapa$$ but I also know I have no patience so I'd probably go pre-bent like Luv said-Just where it is seen. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

03-01-2007, 12:15 PM	#24
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Brake lines.... I asked the NAPA guy about those new lines and he hadn't heard of them yet. He suggested that I just use their 25ft roll of aluminized steel lines (easy to bend) and do it myself. They also sell straight runs with ends at different lengths. I am at this point as well so thanks for the advice. That inline kit runs $300+ with cables though... __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

03-01-2007, 03:44 PM	#25
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Re: Brake lines.... The lines at NAPA are called polyarmor but I couldn't find them on their website. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

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