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68Stepbed · 03-09-2007, 10:32 PM

My dad and I hired another guy to paint my truck back in October. In five months all we got out of him was about two days worth of work. The most aggravating part was every time I talked to him he said he would have the cab done in a week. We were like Yeah Right, you've hardly touched it in four months but you're gonna have it done in a week. So today My dad, brother, a friend and I went and picked it up from him.

We're in a search for new painters. We found a real nice outfit here in town called Precision Rod & Custom. They have a very nice setup. All they do is restorations, absolutely no collision or insurance work. It will be more expensive if we let these guys do it, but you get what you pay for. They had four cars in there they had painted when we went to talk to them last week, and you could shave in these things they're so slick. The only problem I have with going with these guys is the truck will be too nice to drive and I won't have a trailer queen. We'll just see what happens when they look at the truck next week and give us a price.

Sorry, just had to rant.

BigTex · 03-09-2007, 10:46 PM

Hmmm.... tough call. Glad to see you fired the old company, I hate shops who treat customers like that. See if you can get it across to the new shop that you want a very nice paint job but don't want to pay a huge premium for a PERFECT paint job. If its a driver truck and you expect it to get its share of normal wear and tear, then get a paint job for it.

MXmaniac · 03-09-2007, 10:50 PM

Same thing just happened to my neighbor. He took his '65 F-100 to a guy in November, and picked up his unpainted truck a couple days ago. Supposedly the guy got kicked out of his building because he wasn't supposed to be painting there. Now my neighbor is wondering if my dad and I can let the guy paint it in our workshop. In order for that to happen he is going to have to paint my truck for next to nothing.

Eddie H. · 03-09-2007, 11:01 PM

I share your frustration. Painters have got to be the most unreliable people in the world. This one idiot who is supposed to be painting my cab has had it forever. Every time I call him, he says it will be " 2 more weeks " I got the bed back from him finally, and a lot of it needs to be redone. It has runs, sanding scratches showing through, etc. I guess I'll end up just picking it up and trying to find somebody else to do it. If anybody knows a good DEPENDABLE painter in the Dallas/Ft Worth area who is reasonable, please let me know.

1968SWBBigBlock · 03-09-2007, 11:05 PM

Consider yourself lucky. I have heard stories of guys that take thier ride to a paint shop only to have half the stuff stolen and sold off never to be seen again....

craig24671 · 03-09-2007, 11:08 PM

Hey Guys , I feel ya'llls pain . My truck was at the resto shop for almost two years and the guys paint and body man quit so he closed down the shop. I had t o get all my stuff out of there in one week's notice. My shop is full now. So I will just finish it myself.

A.P. · 03-10-2007, 02:16 AM

My truck was in the shop for years, the shop belonged to a family friend. I picked up my truck and have never talked to the family friend ever again.

sjarrett71 · 03-10-2007, 07:34 AM

I was in the Marines in North Carolina and a friend of mine wrecked my camaro. I took it to a shop and he kept putting off fixing it. So finally I got orders to transfer and demanded he get it fixed, it had already been two months! Well a week later I went to go get it and he still hadn't gotten it done so I asked him what the problem was. He said he needed the cash up front!!! Can you believe that?! I told him that no one does business that way but if he had told me I would have paid him because I really needed my car. Well when I got my car back it looked like he let a 3rd grade class of kids with ADHD (no offense) work on it, orange peel, runs, dull paint, etc. I confronted him about it and he said "bring it back in two to three weeks and I'll wet sand it and buff it for you. What a jerk, I was being transfered the following week and he knew it!

God, that felt good to get off my chest.

jacobs · 03-10-2007, 10:56 AM

If you have a garage or one you can use, paint it yourself....It's easy and will save you money.

BigSky71 · 03-10-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jacobs

If you have a garage or one you can use, paint it yourself....It's easy and will save you money.

I am painting my own truck in my garage, just the backsides and inside of the cab so far, but I pleased with the results. Its not hard at all, don't let the "painters" make you think its some kind of dark art. In my experience, albeit limited, new quality paint products are hard to screw up if you just take your time and do it right. I am shooting single stage PPG Concept line of paint.

corn · 03-10-2007, 03:07 PM

The guy I got my 69 from was sitting at a body shop where I had to get it from when I bought it. It sat there for 5 years to have a box side put on & the box painted. I think thats part of the reason he sold it to me, he was tired of waiting & just gave up on it...

68Stepbed · 03-13-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jacobs

If you have a garage or one you can use, paint it yourself....It's easy and will save you money.

I would love to be able to paint it myself but I don't have a place to do it. I don't know how to do any bodywork to fix the few problems it has. Also, the paint I'm using has ALOT of pearl in it and every painter I've talked to says you have to paint all the body panels at the same time or they won't match. We'll get something worked out. It may just take a little more time than we expected.

Mt Man Chad · 03-13-2007, 01:58 PM

Same OLD story a few times!

So I bought a nice big shop compressor and a great Binks hvlp gun.

And never looked back!

AH619 · 03-13-2007, 03:09 PM

Yep,do It Yourself And Be Proud Of It.otherwise You Might As Well Buy A Finished Truck.

dan42 · 03-13-2007, 03:40 PM

I had mine painted by a guy at work - he works nights and has a full-scale shop during the day - he had the truck for a year, and that was with me stopping by 2-3 times a week. He still screwed it up and I have paint cracking all over the place.

meathead95 · 03-13-2007, 04:08 PM

i dont know if you want to travel but pogues in shelbyville tn does alot of old cars and there work is top notch

timcos · 03-13-2007, 04:08 PM

I guess I do not understand....if it was not done in the time specified in the contract I would deduct some dollars each day until it was done. For each day they precede the deadline...I would incent them with dollars.

Say...$10 penalty for each day past the deadline.
and $50 bonus for each day preceding the deadline.

I think you have it real quick.

Wootdog · 03-13-2007, 04:40 PM

Might sound funny to you guys, but I had my 79 Camaro painted at Earl Sheibs here in Norfolk, Virginia. It was Viper Red. When I went to pick it up, it had a finger print on the hood. He told me to bring it back and he would make it right. He said the paint had to cure for ten days. I took it back, and when I got it three days later it was awesome. Now I am not talking the 250 job. I paid 800 and got five coats of clear over the Viper Red. Now that I have had to pull the dents out of it from a tree, yes a tree falling on it during a hurricane, I will not hesitate to take it back to them. I am going to get them to paint my 71 Mach1 also. My two cents, Kerry

bryanw1968 · 03-13-2007, 04:42 PM

My brother took his truck to have it painted and this guy has had the truck since JUNE '03?????????????????????????????????????

My brother paid him up front(still wondering why) and he came pretty highly recommended. The guy just makes excuses and says some something always comes up. My brother just got shipped off to iraq and will be back in 90 days. When we go to pick it up it will be UGLY if it's not ready.

Chevy_Man · 03-13-2007, 04:58 PM

Dang guys i wished yall lived closer to me i love to paint, i work offshore and on my time off i work at a paint and body shop...have for years...Now i want to do it for a living and give up the offshore part....Is the pearl in the paint or the clear?

eric

Bamm · 03-13-2007, 05:21 PM

The pearl should be a mid coat. Kind of a 3 stage paint - base/pearl/clear. I've been painting on the side since high school ('88) and while I won't say it's "easy", if you take some advice from the professionals, read up on it, and take your time, you can do a job that you can be proud of. If you just jump in with a grinder, a gallon of bondo, some primer and a paint gun, you're liable to make such a mess that no one will want to come behind you and fix it. Take your time and approach it the right way. Think about it, you wouldn't tear down an engine and attempt to rebuild it without reading up on how to do it right, would you? To any of you guys that are hesitant to do your own work, I say take a shot at it if you're got the facilities and the tools. I love it when someone asks "where'd you get your car painted" and I say "I did it"

.......Jerry

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Does this mean you will not be at MV this year?

Dick Dale · 03-13-2007, 06:37 PM

My neighbor is slow but does a good job and tells you up front that he takes a while. Good for me cause I pay as I go.

bigfredtn · 03-13-2007, 09:39 PM

I fired my painter last month also. When he could not give me a price, I told him that's all I needed to know.

68stepbed there are some good painters in Maryville.

Sammy · 03-13-2007, 10:18 PM

I think I know the problem..Has to be from snorting the paint fumes.. Same here "Hmmm next week should be done"..two weeks go by.."ahh yeah I'm painting it this coming Saturday"...week later.."I had something come up but I need to get this finished don't I yeah well should be done by this weekend"...one more week...I'm afraid to go by there.. And I always heard the squeeky wheel gets the oil first..

03-09-2007, 10:32 PM	#1
68Stepbed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 10-Uh-See Posts: 5,609	Had to fire another painter today My dad and I hired another guy to paint my truck back in October. In five months all we got out of him was about two days worth of work. The most aggravating part was every time I talked to him he said he would have the cab done in a week. We were like Yeah Right, you've hardly touched it in four months but you're gonna have it done in a week. So today My dad, brother, a friend and I went and picked it up from him. We're in a search for new painters. We found a real nice outfit here in town called Precision Rod & Custom. They have a very nice setup. All they do is restorations, absolutely no collision or insurance work. It will be more expensive if we let these guys do it, but you get what you pay for. They had four cars in there they had painted when we went to talk to them last week, and you could shave in these things they're so slick. The only problem I have with going with these guys is the truck will be too nice to drive and I won't have a trailer queen. We'll just see what happens when they look at the truck next week and give us a price. Sorry, just had to rant. __________________ Matt 68 C10 stepside, LS1/700R4, TCI Engineering suspension system

03-09-2007, 10:46 PM	#2
BigTex Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW area Posts: 104	Re: Had to fire another painter today Hmmm.... tough call. Glad to see you fired the old company, I hate shops who treat customers like that. See if you can get it across to the new shop that you want a very nice paint job but don't want to pay a huge premium for a PERFECT paint job. If its a driver truck and you expect it to get its share of normal wear and tear, then get a paint job for it. __________________ Richard 1970 Chevy (growing pile of parts) 2003 Silverado SS

03-09-2007, 10:50 PM	#3
MXmaniac Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 356	Re: Had to fire another painter today Same thing just happened to my neighbor. He took his '65 F-100 to a guy in November, and picked up his unpainted truck a couple days ago. Supposedly the guy got kicked out of his building because he wasn't supposed to be painting there. Now my neighbor is wondering if my dad and I can let the guy paint it in our workshop. In order for that to happen he is going to have to paint my truck for next to nothing. __________________ Andrew '69 C-20(292, 4-speed) Retired Daily Driver '64 C-10(250, 3-speed) Fixerupper '97 F*rd Mustang GT(4.6L, 5-speed) Daily Driver If I only wanted two pedals I'd have bought a bicycle.

03-09-2007, 11:01 PM	#4
Eddie H. Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Paradise TX USA Posts: 1,200	Re: Had to fire another painter today I share your frustration. Painters have got to be the most unreliable people in the world. This one idiot who is supposed to be painting my cab has had it forever. Every time I call him, he says it will be " 2 more weeks " I got the bed back from him finally, and a lot of it needs to be redone. It has runs, sanding scratches showing through, etc. I guess I'll end up just picking it up and trying to find somebody else to do it. If anybody knows a good DEPENDABLE painter in the Dallas/Ft Worth area who is reasonable, please let me know. __________________ "Negative people always seem to have a problem for every solution"

03-09-2007, 11:05 PM	#5
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	Re: Had to fire another painter today Consider yourself lucky. I have heard stories of guys that take thier ride to a paint shop only to have half the stuff stolen and sold off never to be seen again.... __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

03-09-2007, 11:08 PM	#6
craig24671 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Overton,Texas Posts: 148	Re: Had to fire another painter today Hey Guys , I feel ya'llls pain . My truck was at the resto shop for almost two years and the guys paint and body man quit so he closed down the shop. I had t o get all my stuff out of there in one week's notice. My shop is full now. So I will just finish it myself.

03-10-2007, 02:16 AM	#7
A.P. Black 72 Chevy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 662	Re: Had to fire another painter today My truck was in the shop for years, the shop belonged to a family friend. I picked up my truck and have never talked to the family friend ever again. __________________ 72 Chevy, SWB, 350engine, TH400

03-10-2007, 07:34 AM	#8
sjarrett71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rolla, MO Posts: 2,463	Re: Had to fire another painter today I was in the Marines in North Carolina and a friend of mine wrecked my camaro. I took it to a shop and he kept putting off fixing it. So finally I got orders to transfer and demanded he get it fixed, it had already been two months! Well a week later I went to go get it and he still hadn't gotten it done so I asked him what the problem was. He said he needed the cash up front!!! Can you believe that?! I told him that no one does business that way but if he had told me I would have paid him because I really needed my car. Well when I got my car back it looked like he let a 3rd grade class of kids with ADHD (no offense) work on it, orange peel, runs, dull paint, etc. I confronted him about it and he said "bring it back in two to three weeks and I'll wet sand it and buff it for you. What a jerk, I was being transfered the following week and he knew it! God, that felt good to get off my chest. __________________ -Scott-

03-10-2007, 10:56 AM	#9
jacobs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 9000' Mountain Man Posts: 326	Re: Had to fire another painter today If you have a garage or one you can use, paint it yourself....It's easy and will save you money.

03-10-2007, 03:07 PM	#11
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	Re: Had to fire another painter today The guy I got my 69 from was sitting at a body shop where I had to get it from when I bought it. It sat there for 5 years to have a box side put on & the box painted. I think thats part of the reason he sold it to me, he was tired of waiting & just gave up on it... Last edited by corn; 03-10-2007 at 03:07 PM.

03-13-2007, 01:58 PM	#13
Mt Man Chad Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oakridge Oregon Posts: 1,865	Re: Had to fire another painter today Same OLD story a few times! So I bought a nice big shop compressor and a great Binks hvlp gun. And never looked back! __________________ 68 CST SWB - Gold/White 50th anniversary /TH350/Buddy Buckets/3.73 Posi/dogdish caps. 68 K10 Burb - Gold/White 327/SM465/NP205/3.73 "Daa Burb" build thread

03-13-2007, 03:09 PM	#14
AH619 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: HARRISON AR. Posts: 309	Re: Had to fire another painter today Yep,do It Yourself And Be Proud Of It.otherwise You Might As Well Buy A Finished Truck. __________________ 72 2wd lwb cheyenne super youngest son.green/white 72 2wd lwb cheyenne super oldest son.green/white 71 4wd 3/4 cheyenne super frame off manderin copper / white 4 inch lift. FINALLY DONE / SOLD 72 4WD SWB CHEYENNE BLUE/WHITE 388 AUTO REMEMBER THE COPS NEVER THINK ITS AS FUNNY AS YOU DO. NORWOOD SURVIVOR COPPERTONE BUILD THREAD/ http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259856

03-13-2007, 03:40 PM	#15
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Had to fire another painter today I had mine painted by a guy at work - he works nights and has a full-scale shop during the day - he had the truck for a year, and that was with me stopping by 2-3 times a week. He still screwed it up and I have paint cracking all over the place. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

03-13-2007, 04:08 PM	#16
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	Re: Had to fire another painter today i dont know if you want to travel but pogues in shelbyville tn does alot of old cars and there work is top notch __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

03-13-2007, 04:08 PM	#17
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: Had to fire another painter today I guess I do not understand....if it was not done in the time specified in the contract I would deduct some dollars each day until it was done. For each day they precede the deadline...I would incent them with dollars. Say...$10 penalty for each day past the deadline. and $50 bonus for each day preceding the deadline. I think you have it real quick. __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)



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03-13-2007, 04:40 PM	#18
Wootdog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA Posts: 1,677	Re: Had to fire another painter today Might sound funny to you guys, but I had my 79 Camaro painted at Earl Sheibs here in Norfolk, Virginia. It was Viper Red. When I went to pick it up, it had a finger print on the hood. He told me to bring it back and he would make it right. He said the paint had to cure for ten days. I took it back, and when I got it three days later it was awesome. Now I am not talking the 250 job. I paid 800 and got five coats of clear over the Viper Red. Now that I have had to pull the dents out of it from a tree, yes a tree falling on it during a hurricane, I will not hesitate to take it back to them. I am going to get them to paint my 71 Mach1 also. My two cents, Kerry __________________ 1969 Chevelle 1990 IROC Z Convertible 2002 Silverado LT

03-13-2007, 04:42 PM	#19
bryanw1968 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leander, Texas Posts: 850	Re: Had to fire another painter today My brother took his truck to have it painted and this guy has had the truck since JUNE '03????????????????????????????????????? My brother paid him up front(still wondering why) and he came pretty highly recommended. The guy just makes excuses and says some something always comes up. My brother just got shipped off to iraq and will be back in 90 days. When we go to pick it up it will be UGLY if it's not ready.

03-13-2007, 04:58 PM	#20
Chevy_Man Tightwad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 408	Re: Had to fire another painter today Dang guys i wished yall lived closer to me i love to paint, i work offshore and on my time off i work at a paint and body shop...have for years...Now i want to do it for a living and give up the offshore part....Is the pearl in the paint or the clear? eric __________________ 56 Chevy custom cab step side under construction 55 Chevy 210 68 SWB Stepside back burner under construction 72 Chevy LWB 84 CJ 7 05 Chevy 1500 Crew Cab 30X40 DOGHOUSE(shop) with many add ons

03-13-2007, 05:21 PM	#21
Bamm Cowboy Fan for Life!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Amelia, Virginia Posts: 2,921	Re: Had to fire another painter today The pearl should be a mid coat. Kind of a 3 stage paint - base/pearl/clear. I've been painting on the side since high school ('88) and while I won't say it's "easy", if you take some advice from the professionals, read up on it, and take your time, you can do a job that you can be proud of. If you just jump in with a grinder, a gallon of bondo, some primer and a paint gun, you're liable to make such a mess that no one will want to come behind you and fix it. Take your time and approach it the right way. Think about it, you wouldn't tear down an engine and attempt to rebuild it without reading up on how to do it right, would you? To any of you guys that are hesitant to do your own work, I say take a shot at it if you're got the facilities and the tools. I love it when someone asks "where'd you get your car painted" and I say "I did it" .......Jerry __________________ 1967 ShortBed Fleetside 3/4 Drop 350/700R4 Tilt wheel 18 x 8 Torque Thrust II's Future mods: All new gauges & wood bed My Zip is 23002 I ship UPS, USPS

03-13-2007, 05:37 PM	#22
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03-13-2007, 06:37 PM	#23
Dick Dale Excelsior, You Fathead. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 937	Re: Had to fire another painter today My neighbor is slow but does a good job and tells you up front that he takes a while. Good for me cause I pay as I go. __________________ Go Navy. The Sea Is Ours. Budget 350 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...38#post2264638

03-13-2007, 09:39 PM	#24
bigfredtn Active Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West TN (Memphis area) now. East TN (my favorite place to live). Posts: 157	Re: Had to fire another painter today I fired my painter last month also. When he could not give me a price, I told him that's all I needed to know. 68stepbed there are some good painters in Maryville. __________________ BigFredTN 70 chevy stepside 350 with some goodies inside, turbo 400. 69 Chevy long wheel base. Dad bought new in 1970 62 Chevy Impala 98 GMC Yukon 1970 Ford Mustang Fastback I know its a Ford.

03-13-2007, 10:18 PM	#25
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Had to fire another painter today I think I know the problem..Has to be from snorting the paint fumes.. Same here "Hmmm next week should be done"..two weeks go by.."ahh yeah I'm painting it this coming Saturday"...week later.."I had something come up but I need to get this finished don't I yeah well should be done by this weekend"...one more week...I'm afraid to go by there.. And I always heard the squeeky wheel gets the oil first.. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

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