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TheSasquach · 04-02-2007, 06:20 PM

I was at a car show last saturday in Atlanta, and came across this truck.

After looking at it for a bit i noticed the grill and fenders arent lined up well.

My question is is this due to poor repro quality, or are the fenders and grill not linged up properly? If this truck belongs to anyone here please dont be offended by me pointing this out, I simply want to know if the grills are a good fit or not. David

see ten · 04-02-2007, 06:35 PM

Odds are the problem is aftermarket fenders. Where the fenders make the first 90* bend toward the center of the truck, they don't go far enough before they make another bend toward the front of the truck. We didn't realize this on my K10 until we went to mount the grill. However we didn't leave things like this fella did. The dolly and hammer was broken out and the fenders got the extra roll they needed. Then they had to be painted again.

cdowns · 04-02-2007, 06:41 PM

yeah you have to expect to massage everything prior to paint to get a great fit even oem stuff might need some work// alot of "builders" its a streach of thier talent to just open the boxes up and the final assembly shows it

*72CSTC5* · 04-02-2007, 07:00 PM

These older vehicles were not built to the tolerances of today's standards and many people do not realize that until hey get in to building one. Sometimes you have to "persuade" the parts into fitting!!

PanelDeland · 04-02-2007, 07:17 PM

This is one reason the price of pro builds is so high.Usually they build the truck completely,in primer.Any adjustments like this one can be made,all the brackets ect. are drilled correctly,all of the parts test fitted.At one time builders would do all this and even drive the vehicle for a while.After that it was blown all apart and any fixes performed then it was off to paint and final finish work.Over time most pro shops have determined what has to be done and they just do it.Before everyone used JY parts and had to massage or modify them to fit so it was a little more involved.Now everyone uses well engineered kits for suspension and such so that part is already good to go.

*72CSTC5* · 04-02-2007, 08:44 PM

After looking at the pictures again it may be one of the chromed grilles that everyone is talking about that do not fit very well.

**CPNE** · 04-02-2007, 08:47 PM

I think it may be the chrome grille at fault here

centsless · 04-02-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CPNE

I think it may be the chrome grille at fault here

I'll third that opinion

TheSasquach · 04-02-2007, 09:07 PM

Is there one supplier that is more likely to have "better" ( needing less massaging) than others, or is there one (or more) to avoid? David

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 04-04-2007, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSasquach

I was at a car show last saturday in Atlanta, and came across this truck.

After looking at it for a bit i noticed the grill and fenders arent lined up well.

My question is is this due to poor repro quality, or are the fenders and grill not linged up properly? If this truck belongs to anyone here please dont be offended by me pointing this out, I simply want to know if the grills are a good fit or not. David

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With me it was the grill assembly as I have the original fenders on my truck. I went through 3 grill kits and on the third one I had to modify things to get the best fit that I could. The two tone paint scheme really shows this up more so then if it were one color. The kit was supplied through a local hot rod shop who uses Classic Industries who I think have a really crapy attitude with regards to customer service!! I would never use their products from them or a dealer who uses them as a supplier again!

The dealer gave me a $180.00 in store credit and I wrote a tech article for him how to install the grill which is included with every grill he sells.

esll.

**special-K** · 04-04-2007, 06:56 AM

It`s that steel chromed grille.It just doesn`t have the proper radius and is not the proper measurement to fit over the mating area.No fenders are made that bad.That grille would never fit over that are with any amount of "massaging".The grille is a poor custom chrome piece never made by the factory.LMC produced them,initially.Then,became available to all vendors.
It`s a shame after all that work that a guy pays good money to screw his truck up with crap parts.

cfoust3 · 04-04-2007, 07:46 AM

This is actually pretty common to see at shows. What surprises me is when a vehicle wins and looks like that. Most people wouldn't even notice it if they weren't looking or didn't have one themselves.

I would have sent that grill back, there's no sense in companies putting out products like that. Especially for the money we shell out for parts.

My wife actually made a good comment on this the other day while watching a build on tv with me (they were massaging a quater panel) she said "you know after fifty years (the car)you would think a company could get the measurments right"

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 04-04-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

It`s that steel chromed grille.It just doesn`t have the proper radius and is not the proper measurement to fit over the mating area.No fenders are made that bad.That grille would never fit over that are with any amount of "massaging".The grille is a poor custom chrome piece never made by the factory.LMC produced them,initially.Then,became available to all vendors.
It`s a shame after all that work that a guy pays good money to screw his truck up with crap parts.

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Hello there Speicial-K,

Do you know if a 67 > 72 GMC P/UP is supposed to have a gap between the top bar on the grill and the hood? I have seen old work trucks not hot rods and this is the case. The hoods appear to be adjusted properly on the sides and the back closest to the windshield. The hood appears to be too short in the front.

esll.

72-stomper · 04-04-2007, 03:37 PM

My chrome steel grill fits way better than that........Ill try to post pics tonight....

67ChevyRedneck · 04-04-2007, 03:53 PM

DAMN that's a nice truck, kinda sucks about the grill alignment.

04-02-2007, 06:20 PM	#1
TheSasquach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesboro Ga Posts: 41	Is this what i can expect? I was at a car show last saturday in Atlanta, and came across this truck. After looking at it for a bit i noticed the grill and fenders arent lined up well. My question is is this due to poor repro quality, or are the fenders and grill not linged up properly? If this truck belongs to anyone here please dont be offended by me pointing this out, I simply want to know if the grills are a good fit or not. David Last edited by TheSasquach; 04-02-2007 at 06:21 PM.

04-02-2007, 06:35 PM	#2
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: Is this what i can expect? Odds are the problem is aftermarket fenders. Where the fenders make the first 90* bend toward the center of the truck, they don't go far enough before they make another bend toward the front of the truck. We didn't realize this on my K10 until we went to mount the grill. However we didn't leave things like this fella did. The dolly and hammer was broken out and the fenders got the extra roll they needed. Then they had to be painted again.

04-02-2007, 06:41 PM	#3
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Is this what i can expect? yeah you have to expect to massage everything prior to paint to get a great fit even oem stuff might need some work// alot of "builders" its a streach of thier talent to just open the boxes up and the final assembly shows it __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

04-02-2007, 07:00 PM	#4
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,522	Re: Is this what i can expect? These older vehicles were not built to the tolerances of today's standards and many people do not realize that until hey get in to building one. Sometimes you have to "persuade" the parts into fitting!!

04-02-2007, 07:17 PM	#5
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: Is this what i can expect? This is one reason the price of pro builds is so high.Usually they build the truck completely,in primer.Any adjustments like this one can be made,all the brackets ect. are drilled correctly,all of the parts test fitted.At one time builders would do all this and even drive the vehicle for a while.After that it was blown all apart and any fixes performed then it was off to paint and final finish work.Over time most pro shops have determined what has to be done and they just do it.Before everyone used JY parts and had to massage or modify them to fit so it was a little more involved.Now everyone uses well engineered kits for suspension and such so that part is already good to go. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

04-02-2007, 08:44 PM	#6
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,522	Re: Is this what i can expect? After looking at the pictures again it may be one of the chromed grilles that everyone is talking about that do not fit very well.

04-02-2007, 08:47 PM	#7
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	Re: Is this what i can expect? I think it may be the chrome grille at fault here __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

04-02-2007, 09:07 PM	#9
TheSasquach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesboro Ga Posts: 41	Re: Is this what i can expect? Is there one supplier that is more likely to have "better" ( needing less massaging) than others, or is there one (or more) to avoid? David

04-04-2007, 06:56 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Is this what i can expect? It`s that steel chromed grille.It just doesn`t have the proper radius and is not the proper measurement to fit over the mating area.No fenders are made that bad.That grille would never fit over that are with any amount of "massaging".The grille is a poor custom chrome piece never made by the factory.LMC produced them,initially.Then,became available to all vendors. It`s a shame after all that work that a guy pays good money to screw his truck up with crap parts. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-04-2007, 07:46 AM	#12
cfoust3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hartford City, Indiana Posts: 54	Re: Is this what i can expect? This is actually pretty common to see at shows. What surprises me is when a vehicle wins and looks like that. Most people wouldn't even notice it if they weren't looking or didn't have one themselves. I would have sent that grill back, there's no sense in companies putting out products like that. Especially for the money we shell out for parts. My wife actually made a good comment on this the other day while watching a build on tv with me (they were massaging a quater panel) she said "you know after fifty years (the car)you would think a company could get the measurments right" __________________ Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some ****in' muscle. -Wooderson From the movie Dazed and Confused

04-04-2007, 03:37 PM	#14
72-stomper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 142	Re: Is this what i can expect? My chrome steel grill fits way better than that........Ill try to post pics tonight.... __________________ 1972 Chevy 1/2 ton on 1981 chevy 3/4 ton 4X4 chassis! 8" lift Frame off resto.

04-04-2007, 03:53 PM	#15
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