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70jimmy4x4 · 04-24-2002, 10:16 PM

Starter is two months old, only started a couple of times a week since. Tonight I noticed it "clicks" like it is on a high compression stroke, starts after 2-5 tries.
Not a flywheel problem, I don't think, not a clanking, but a clicking !! lol
Diagnosis please Doc !!!

Steve

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'70 jimmy 4x4
'98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo)
'65 stang
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Brewski* · 04-24-2002, 10:45 PM

Check all your connections on the starter and battery make sure they are all tight. I had a loose wire on the starter and it did the same thing. I have also had a loose connection on the battery and it did the same thing.

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Red Rocket: Stock 1971 GMC KE2500, LWB, Custom Camper, 4x4, 350 V8, 4 bbl, 4 speed http://www.brewski.freehomepage.com/index.html

O'l Buck · 04-25-2002, 12:33 AM

I'll quote my college automotive electrical instructor "The most overlooked portion of an electrical circuit is the ground"

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Ol' Buck: '72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84
ralleys and 31/10.5s

Angel girl: 67 Cutlass convertible
330, 3spd stick

Greener: 90 GMC Jimmy
350/auto
Chad Stephens
Orleans,NE

no name yet: 72 442 under serious construction

Huck · 04-25-2002, 06:23 AM

Usually the starter either works or doesn't. I would clean and tighten the battery connections first, then the battery ground wire to the block at the block. Then see what happens. Next would be the connections at the starter. Good luck---Huck

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72 Cheyenne, 350, 5spd, LWB, Super trim.
71 GMC JIMMY 4X4 --needs stuff-!

Gordo · 04-25-2002, 06:31 PM

Sounds like the contacts within the solenoid to me. If you remove the starter then remove the solenoid you can take the solenoid apart and rotate the contact points 180 degrees to give it a fresh contact area. It's worth a try before you spend $. While you have it apart, remove the two bolts holding the back side of the starter and slide off the back cover to examine the brushes, if they are way down you may consider replacing those also.

On second thought,,,,
two months old? Screw it,, return it!

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1971 C10 swb stepside 350/700R4/3.73posi
Killingworth, Connecticut

[This message has been edited by Gordo (edited April 25, 2002).]

70jimmy4x4 · 04-25-2002, 09:12 PM

I was a bad ground at the battery !
DAHHHHHHHH !!
All is well. Also, I had posted a question back in January asking why I couldn't shut the engine off while the headlights were on !
Longhornmail expertly stated, "switch the orange and pink wires" wow ! is that guy sharp ! Problem was, I JUST found the two wires tonight (the Walmart undercoating finally wore-off enough for me to tell what was what !)

Thanks guys !!!

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'70 jimmy 4x4
'98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo)
'65 stang
'81 shovelhead
contact me: email--showme219@aol.com

*Fast68Chevy* · 04-25-2002, 10:14 PM

which pink and roange where at on truck ? i missed all that thread back when it was posted, sounds like good info to know

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-84 Firebird SE 2.8L T-5, rod knocking, dammit,,
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Slick1 · 04-26-2002, 11:30 AM

I'd like to know as well. Where are these orange and pink wires?

70jimmy4x4 · 04-27-2002, 05:28 PM

The wires are located on the firewall, they come thru the firewall to the right of the master cylinder, on my truck, both wires run in the same loom. They appear to be the same size.
I believe one is the starter supply, the other a main power supply to the fuse box. I am not clear that that is the exact routing for the wires... but it kinda' explains MY particular problem.
I will investigate further and start a new thread when I get the right details.....

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'70 jimmy 4x4
'98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo)
'65 stang
'81 shovelhead
contact me: email--showme219@aol.com

04-24-2002, 10:16 PM	#1
70jimmy4x4 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: indiana Posts: 279	Starter's actin' funny Starter is two months old, only started a couple of times a week since. Tonight I noticed it "clicks" like it is on a high compression stroke, starts after 2-5 tries. Not a flywheel problem, I don't think, not a clanking, but a clicking !! lol Diagnosis please Doc !!! Steve ------------------ '70 jimmy 4x4 '98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo) '65 stang '81 shovelhead contact me: email--showme219@aol.com __________________ '70 jimmy 4x4 '98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo) '65 stang '81 shovelhead '99 Dodge Ram 1500

04-25-2002, 12:33 AM	#3
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	I'll quote my college automotive electrical instructor "The most overlooked portion of an electrical circuit is the ground" ------------------ Ol' Buck: '72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84 ralleys and 31/10.5s Angel girl: 67 Cutlass convertible 330, 3spd stick Greener: 90 GMC Jimmy 350/auto Chad Stephens Orleans,NE no name yet: 72 442 under serious construction __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

04-25-2002, 06:31 PM	#5
Gordo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Killingworth, CT. USA Posts: 3,378	Sounds like the contacts within the solenoid to me. If you remove the starter then remove the solenoid you can take the solenoid apart and rotate the contact points 180 degrees to give it a fresh contact area. It's worth a try before you spend $. While you have it apart, remove the two bolts holding the back side of the starter and slide off the back cover to examine the brushes, if they are way down you may consider replacing those also. On second thought,,,, two months old? Screw it,, return it! ------------------ 1971 C10 swb stepside 350/700R4/3.73posi Killingworth, Connecticut [This message has been edited by Gordo (edited April 25, 2002).] __________________ 1971 C10 swb stepside 350/700R4/3.73posi (retired as of 4/22/03) 1998 S10 short bed 2002 S10 Blazer 1942 Oldsmobile 1958 Massey Harris Pony 1951 Wife Killingworth, Connecticut May those who love us, love us, any of those who do not love us, may God turn their hearts. And if God is unable to turn their hearts, may he turn their ankles so we may know them by their limping. A man who works with his hands is a laborer; a man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman; but a man who works with his hands and his brain and his heart is an artist.

04-25-2002, 09:12 PM	#6
70jimmy4x4 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: indiana Posts: 279	I was a bad ground at the battery ! DAHHHHHHHH !! All is well. Also, I had posted a question back in January asking why I couldn't shut the engine off while the headlights were on ! Longhornmail expertly stated, "switch the orange and pink wires" wow ! is that guy sharp ! Problem was, I JUST found the two wires tonight (the Walmart undercoating finally wore-off enough for me to tell what was what !) Thanks guys !!! ------------------ '70 jimmy 4x4 '98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo) '65 stang '81 shovelhead contact me: email--showme219@aol.com __________________ '70 jimmy 4x4 '98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo) '65 stang '81 shovelhead '99 Dodge Ram 1500

04-27-2002, 05:28 PM	#9
70jimmy4x4 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: indiana Posts: 279	The wires are located on the firewall, they come thru the firewall to the right of the master cylinder, on my truck, both wires run in the same loom. They appear to be the same size. I believe one is the starter supply, the other a main power supply to the fuse box. I am not clear that that is the exact routing for the wires... but it kinda' explains MY particular problem. I will investigate further and start a new thread when I get the right details..... ------------------ '70 jimmy 4x4 '98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo) '65 stang '81 shovelhead contact me: email--showme219@aol.com __________________ '70 jimmy 4x4 '98 chevy zr2 (the misses' transpo) '65 stang '81 shovelhead '99 Dodge Ram 1500

04-24-2002, 10:45 PM	#2
Brewski* Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rocky Mount, MO Posts: 1,293	Check all your connections on the starter and battery make sure they are all tight. I had a loose wire on the starter and it did the same thing. I have also had a loose connection on the battery and it did the same thing. ------------------ Red Rocket: Stock 1971 GMC KE2500, LWB, Custom Camper, 4x4, 350 V8, 4 bbl, 4 speed http://www.brewski.freehomepage.com/index.html

04-25-2002, 06:23 AM	#4
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,261	Usually the starter either works or doesn't. I would clean and tighten the battery connections first, then the battery ground wire to the block at the block. Then see what happens. Next would be the connections at the starter. Good luck---Huck ------------------ 72 Cheyenne, 350, 5spd, LWB, Super trim. 71 GMC JIMMY 4X4 --needs stuff-!

04-25-2002, 10:14 PM	#7
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	which pink and roange where at on truck ? i missed all that thread back when it was posted, sounds like good info to know ------------------ Randy- Lincoln, IL r68c30@hotmail.com 2177353230 -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07, assemble it, yeah right, that'll happen in this world,(not) -84 Z28 Camaro 5.0L 700R4, 3.73, beater, paid way too much for it like an idiot,, -84 Firebird SE 2.8L T-5, rod knocking, dammit,, -82 Firebird 350 4bolt (TBL)/TH350, not running, dammit... buy/sell/hoard/trade most any GM vehicle parts of any kind -parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham *Paint is overrated © RSS Enterprises 2000

04-26-2002, 11:30 AM	#8
Slick1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Olathe, Ks USA Posts: 29	I'd like to know as well. Where are these orange and pink wires?



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