Very Important info for you Guys wishing to run 73 and up Spindles - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

72MARIO · 09-14-2002, 07:09 PM

Here I go this took myself and Bill the owner of Bills truck shop in Ontario Canada to figure out Thought I would pass it on to you guys !Here is the list of stuff you need to Know .

1. The center link from 67-70 is diffirent from 71-72 the holes are bigger in 71-71 than in 67-70 YOU need to use a 67-70 center link or the one with the smaller holes .

2. Use 73 -up outer tie rod .

3. Classic Performance Products sell the sleve you must use it has 11/16LH thread on one side and 5/8 RH thread on the other. part number CP4SC $49.00 Bill can also get you the stuff just give him a call.

4. you must use a 67-70 outer tie rod on the inside seriously !

5. If you are thinking well the inner tie rod should be long /The sleeve in a quite a bit longer than the original.

6 you also use 73 up ball joints(not sure if you have too)

Bill can get you the part 's also he is a guy a runs a awesome shop. his number is 905 725 3460

*Fast68Chevy* · 09-15-2002, 12:46 AM

i dont know how or why but some of the 71 72 trucks have same center link as the 64-70 trucks(except with ram linkage p/s basically) i have seen both large hole links and small hole links on 71 72 trucks, differenc emay be if with p/s or not

71 72 lower ball joints are same as 73-87 ones, and uppers changed in 71 and yet again in 73

you also need 73-up hoses or at least year of hoses for the year calipeors you are using because 73-up hoses pass through the framwe rails and 71 72 pass under frame rails and are tons shorter hoses. i prefer the 73-up style alot more and holes for thme already exist in our frames.

happy swapping

Spoof · 10-02-2002, 10:19 PM

I need to re-check this but it appeared to me that the 73 outer tie rod end I have fit the 71 sleeve perfectly, threaded on just fine when I was doing a pre-assembly for my drop spindles. I'll check again, but I hope I don't have to order the custom sleeves!

LowSeventy · 10-03-2002, 12:18 PM

Why go through all this trouble swapping everything out? Early Classic manufactures a drop spindle for the 1960-70 trucks that bolts right on. I bought their kit and it bolted directly onto my stock 70 front end. My cousin and I installed the entire disc brake 4/6 drop kit in my driveway on a Saturday, with virtually no trouble at all. We had just a couple questions and they were so cool on the phone and helped us out. I would recommend their stuff to anyone.

Spoof · 10-03-2002, 05:24 PM

I thought that's what I WAS doing when I ordered my Belltech drop spindles. I made every effort to ensure they were year specific and would bolt right in, two phone calls to confirm and still the spindles for 67-72 trucks require a 73 tie-rod end, in spite of them repeatedly telling me no mods would be needed. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

LowSeventy · 10-03-2002, 06:26 PM

Wow, that sucks! I thought Belltech had their act together, but I guess not. Did they tell you can't run a stock wheel with their 3" spindle? That's another reason I went the ECE, I can use my stock rally wheels with their 2.5" spindles til my 17"s get here.

72MARIO · 12-21-2002, 12:14 AM

ttt

70 Jimmy · 12-21-2002, 06:17 AM

I believe all the manufacturers stopped making the 3" drop spindle years ago because of clearance problems on some rims. I haven't seen a 3" spindle advertised in quite some time. I could be wrong, it happens.

69c10stepside · 12-24-2002, 02:41 AM

summit still sells 73-87 chevy 3"drop spindles.. if you have the recent mini-catalog its on page 125

djm's

chevy_fatman · 12-24-2002, 03:46 AM

Those chevy 3" drop spindles, for how much do they run? I don't have the summit catalog

69c10stepside · 12-24-2002, 12:35 PM

$225.95 part number is djm-ds2045h-3

70 Jimmy · 12-29-2002, 05:13 PM

I paid $240 for my 72 2.5" drop spindles from Early Classics. For a few dollars more, you get great service, and you can use all stock components, including rims.

chevy_fatman · 12-29-2002, 07:55 PM

Hey 70 Jimmy, did you also get lowered springs?, if so, how low did you go? I'd like to see some pics of your ride if you had any

70 Jimmy · 12-30-2002, 12:49 PM

Unfortunately, it's "how low will I be going". Still not done. I've got 3" drop springs for now, but plan on bags. That with 2.5" spindles and a 1.5" notch, it'll be 7" up front and probably 9" at the rear. I'll see how that looks and how practical it is around town. It's a short wheel base, so I should be fine. I'll post pics when the engine is in.

chevy_fatman · 12-30-2002, 03:18 PM

Well keep us posted, I like to see some progress, even though the progress is not in my truck

chevykid04 · 12-30-2002, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LowSeventy
Why go through all this trouble swapping everything out? Early Classic manufactures a drop spindle for the 1960-70 trucks that bolts right on. I bought their kit and it bolted directly onto my stock 70 front end.

price

i think there kit is like, 6-700 something??? thats a little pricey for me

truckman32 · 01-16-2003, 10:43 PM

i have heard alot about swaping spindles for disc brakes on 62-69 and i have researched alot info on it at stovebolt and i think the best way to do this is just swap the complete front crossmember IFS.actually i had a 81 1/2 ton scottsdale ifs under a 66 bare frame and the fitment was okay except drilling two holes on the frame.and the brake lines fittins were metric but there are adapters so not a problem but thats as far as i got i hade to move and couldn't take it with me,so this time i'm going with a 72 IFS on my 66 since i'm doing a total frame off restore.anybody else got any info on the ifs swap

ther is something women like about a pickup man THE BED

1966 c10 short wheel base stepside bowtie:
1985 s10
1986 f==d
1994 dodge intrepid

09-14-2002, 07:09 PM	#1
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Very Important info for you Guys wishing to run 73 and up Spindles Here I go this took myself and Bill the owner of Bills truck shop in Ontario Canada to figure out Thought I would pass it on to you guys !Here is the list of stuff you need to Know . 1. The center link from 67-70 is diffirent from 71-72 the holes are bigger in 71-71 than in 67-70 YOU need to use a 67-70 center link or the one with the smaller holes . 2. Use 73 -up outer tie rod . 3. Classic Performance Products sell the sleve you must use it has 11/16LH thread on one side and 5/8 RH thread on the other. part number CP4SC $49.00 Bill can also get you the stuff just give him a call. 4. you must use a 67-70 outer tie rod on the inside seriously ! 5. If you are thinking well the inner tie rod should be long /The sleeve in a quite a bit longer than the original. 6 you also use 73 up ball joints(not sure if you have too) Bill can get you the part 's also he is a guy a runs a awesome shop. his number is 905 725 3460 __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD Last edited by 72MARIO; 12-21-2002 at 12:16 AM.

10-02-2002, 10:19 PM	#3
Spoof Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Victoria,BC, Canada Posts: 1,300	I need to re-check this but it appeared to me that the 73 outer tie rod end I have fit the 71 sleeve perfectly, threaded on just fine when I was doing a pre-assembly for my drop spindles. I'll check again, but I hope I don't have to order the custom sleeves! __________________ 71 GMC 1500 LWB

10-03-2002, 05:24 PM	#5
Spoof Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Victoria,BC, Canada Posts: 1,300	I thought that's what I WAS doing when I ordered my Belltech drop spindles. I made every effort to ensure they were year specific and would bolt right in, two phone calls to confirm and still the spindles for 67-72 trucks require a 73 tie-rod end, in spite of them repeatedly telling me no mods would be needed. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! __________________ 71 GMC 1500 LWB

12-21-2002, 12:14 AM	#7
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	ttt __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

12-21-2002, 06:17 AM	#8
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	I believe all the manufacturers stopped making the 3" drop spindle years ago because of clearance problems on some rims. I haven't seen a 3" spindle advertised in quite some time. I could be wrong, it happens. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

09-15-2002, 12:46 AM	#2
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	i dont know how or why but some of the 71 72 trucks have same center link as the 64-70 trucks(except with ram linkage p/s basically) i have seen both large hole links and small hole links on 71 72 trucks, differenc emay be if with p/s or not 71 72 lower ball joints are same as 73-87 ones, and uppers changed in 71 and yet again in 73 you also need 73-up hoses or at least year of hoses for the year calipeors you are using because 73-up hoses pass through the framwe rails and 71 72 pass under frame rails and are tons shorter hoses. i prefer the 73-up style alot more and holes for thme already exist in our frames. happy swapping

10-03-2002, 12:18 PM	#4
LowSeventy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 67	Why go through all this trouble swapping everything out? Early Classic manufactures a drop spindle for the 1960-70 trucks that bolts right on. I bought their kit and it bolted directly onto my stock 70 front end. My cousin and I installed the entire disc brake 4/6 drop kit in my driveway on a Saturday, with virtually no trouble at all. We had just a couple questions and they were so cool on the phone and helped us out. I would recommend their stuff to anyone.

10-03-2002, 06:26 PM	#6
LowSeventy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 67	Wow, that sucks! I thought Belltech had their act together, but I guess not. Did they tell you can't run a stock wheel with their 3" spindle? That's another reason I went the ECE, I can use my stock rally wheels with their 2.5" spindles til my 17"s get here.

12-24-2002, 02:41 AM	#9
69c10stepside Large Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northwest Arkansas Posts: 747	summit still sells 73-87 chevy 3"drop spindles.. if you have the recent mini-catalog its on page 125 djm's __________________ 1989 GMC C1500 ECSB 1972 Gmc Jimmy 1972 Chevy C10 SWB Sold

12-24-2002, 03:46 AM	#10
chevy_fatman Where's my beer? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in the state of denial.... Posts: 5,621	Those chevy 3" drop spindles, for how much do they run? I don't have the summit catalog __________________ Paul How do you make the invisible, visible?.........You take it away.

12-24-2002, 12:35 PM	#11
69c10stepside Large Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northwest Arkansas Posts: 747	$225.95 part number is djm-ds2045h-3 __________________ 1989 GMC C1500 ECSB 1972 Gmc Jimmy 1972 Chevy C10 SWB Sold

12-29-2002, 05:13 PM	#12
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	I paid $240 for my 72 2.5" drop spindles from Early Classics. For a few dollars more, you get great service, and you can use all stock components, including rims. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

12-29-2002, 07:55 PM	#13
chevy_fatman Where's my beer? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in the state of denial.... Posts: 5,621	Hey 70 Jimmy, did you also get lowered springs?, if so, how low did you go? I'd like to see some pics of your ride if you had any __________________ Paul How do you make the invisible, visible?.........You take it away.

12-30-2002, 12:49 PM	#14
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	Unfortunately, it's "how low will I be going". Still not done. I've got 3" drop springs for now, but plan on bags. That with 2.5" spindles and a 1.5" notch, it'll be 7" up front and probably 9" at the rear. I'll see how that looks and how practical it is around town. It's a short wheel base, so I should be fine. I'll post pics when the engine is in. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

12-30-2002, 03:18 PM	#15
chevy_fatman Where's my beer? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in the state of denial.... Posts: 5,621	Well keep us posted, I like to see some progress, even though the progress is not in my truck __________________ Paul How do you make the invisible, visible?.........You take it away.



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01-16-2003, 10:43 PM	#17
truckman32 AND HOLDING ON TO THE C10 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MT.STERLING,KY Posts: 390	swaping spindles i have heard alot about swaping spindles for disc brakes on 62-69 and i have researched alot info on it at stovebolt and i think the best way to do this is just swap the complete front crossmember IFS.actually i had a 81 1/2 ton scottsdale ifs under a 66 bare frame and the fitment was okay except drilling two holes on the frame.and the brake lines fittins were metric but there are adapters so not a problem but thats as far as i got i hade to move and couldn't take it with me,so this time i'm going with a 72 IFS on my 66 since i'm doing a total frame off restore.anybody else got any info on the ifs swap ther is something women like about a pickup man THE BED 1966 c10 short wheel base stepside bowtie: 1985 s10 1986 f==d 1994 dodge intrepid

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