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Old 06-03-2007, 11:40 PM   #1
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Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

I am in the middle of this project truck (85 C10 short bed) and I'm going to be ordering the suspension this week. I am considering the Belltech 6" axle flip kit and 2" shackles. I guess that equals roughly 8" of lowering. This is far from a daily driver, so comfort and ride quality are nothing to me, haha. How low have people been going with just suspension lowering in the back (no airbags).

Just for the record, the front will be getting a set of 2.5" drop spindles and 2-3" lowering springs.

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Old 06-04-2007, 12:14 AM   #2
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Flip kit and drop shackles here too. Front has spindles, 1" drop coil with 1/2 coil cut.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:16 AM   #3
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Hey that looks about right. So do you have the full 8"? or what flip kit did you use. Nice looking truck man!
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:19 AM   #4
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Western Chassis flip kit + 2" BellTech shackles out back. No c-sections installed yet (have them just not installed) & it's been driven daily now for 2yrs.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:22 AM   #5
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Holy crap, no frame reliefs? Sounds intense. So does the frame make much contact with the axle with that setup? I might go for the full 4" shacke kit + flip kit. Hmm. This forum kicks ass BTW. Haha.
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Holy crap, no frame reliefs? Sounds intense. So does the frame make much contact with the axle with that setup? I might go for the full 4" shacke kit + flip kit. Hmm. This forum kicks ass BTW. Haha.
Dropped hangers maybe?

2" shackle is the most they offer. I think your bed floor won't live long & bolt-in style c-sections won't work well if you go more than the flip + 2" shackles.

I can't carry much payload @ all & it does bottom out frequently. I just haven't had the opportunity to get the c-sections installed since I've been using it as my sole transportation sorce.

I will actually prob get them installed the week of 6-17 'cause the GF will be out of town & I'll have her car for the week. You definitely want the c-sections .... it sucks on crappy roads w/o them!
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:44 AM   #7
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Yeah the hangers + shackles + flip is what I was referring too. I definitely plan on installing the notches though, my buddy had an S10 on which he had removed all but one of the rear leaf springs. Yeah, it hit the frame a lot and that sucked.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:18 AM   #8
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

2" from shackles + 2" from hangars + 6" from flip with c notch = 10" in the rear

2.5" spindles in the front with 3" coils + 1.5 coils cut off = 7" in the front

seen quite a few ppl taking a leaf out of the rear for a total of 13" in the rear...but thats damn near scraping, I pray for them that they dont have potholes!
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:01 AM   #9
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

3" LCA,2" Coils, Flip Kit and I do have Hangers and Shackles but I have them in the lower hole on bothe, With that the back could drop another 3" approx. Prolly will do , I might get drop Spindles
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3" LCA,2" Coils, Flip Kit and I do have Hangers and Shackles but I have them in the lower hole on bothe, With that the back could drop another 3" approx. Prolly will do , I might get drop Spindles
FYI, you cannot use drop spindles AND drop LCA's at the same time.

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Hey that looks about right. So do you have the full 8"? or what flip kit did you use. Nice looking truck man!
WC flip kit and Bell Tech shackles. It is lowered the full 8.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:44 AM   #12
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

flip and hangers...but would recommend shackles instead of the hangers, fugged up the pinion

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Old 06-04-2007, 09:51 AM   #13
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FYI, you cannot use drop spindles AND drop LCA's at the same time.
Well there went that idea..

WHy couldnt you use both? WIll be sportin larger wheels.
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:02 AM   #14
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

here's bell tech 6 inch flip kit with c notch.........front is 3 inch bell tech spindles with 1 inch drop coils.it's called a 4,6 but looks lower.rides great.
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:03 AM   #15
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flip and hangers...but would recommend shackles instead of the hangers, fugged up the pinion

hey dub,post some more pics of your cheb.i like that look.kinda changing topic's on skarpenz post but,i think he's looking for idea's.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:02 PM   #16
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

I been wondering the same thing.
I mean they have 6 inch flip kits,

2 inch hangers
2 inch shackles
mono leaf lowering springs and multi leaf lowering springs in the brother's catalog, I wondered if you could combine all thee lol.

Then do like 3 inch spindles or 2.5's and then 2.5 or 3 inch springs in the front lol.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:20 AM   #17
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Yeah I think I'll go for the 6" flip kit and 2" shackles in the rear. Then 3" spindles and 2" springs in the front. So a 5/8? Haha.

The back of my truck sits unusually high, does this necessarily mean it has the HD springs?

All ideas are welcome guys. I want to be low, haha. Consequences be damned.
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By the way, boatpuller, your truck is friggin' beautiful!
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The back of my truck sits unusually high, does this necessarily mean it has the HD springs?
If you have more than 4 leafs...say seven, then your answer is yes. My truck is, well was, the same way.
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

I have like 4 reg leafs and one aftermarket helper leaf thing thats apparently jacking the back up a little. I'll get rid of it when I do the rear of the truck. Where have you guys been buying your suspension stuff? I've been looking at Summit myself.
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

stylin concepts, gmc pauls, and andys auto sport, is where I got all my suspension stuff...I wont pay too much for anything! yea I know the saying...you get what you pay for, but heh...I honestly dont care...
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Heh, I hear ya on that one. I'm going for cheap too, so its all good.
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Doing my civic duty here...

DO NOT purchase your stuff from Sport Truck Direct!

I hear Performance Suspension has good customer service and pretty much everything you need...at good prices.
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Well there went that idea..

WHy couldnt you use both? WIll be sportin larger wheels.
Didn't see this answered so I figured I would chime in...
It is POSSIBLE to do it, BUT it will violate scrub and put you and the rest of us at risk if you have a blow out. Essentially if the tire goes flat, the control arms will be lower than the rim when there is no air in the tire so you would have no control over the vehicle in the event of a blowout since it would be skidding on the control arms. It is a safety issue.
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Re: Flip kit? + Shackles? How low can I go in the back.

Guys have any of you tried summit racing?

They sell their own brand, belltech and djm.

I checked last night and 3 inch drop coils are like $75

Flip kit is less then a hundred,

spindles are like $220 a set for a 2.5 drop, little more for 3 inch drop.

They carry shackles and hangers, I think their shackle and hanger kit was $150 but you can get them seperate for cheapier.
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