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1968vetL-71 · 06-30-2007, 10:40 AM

I know this topic is widely covered. But I have seen so many different types on ebay for sale ( brackets basically ). I am hung up on the spacer issue. I have seen some with dom tubing spacers, black pipe, small angle pieces welded on bracket, and a really neat set with machinged aluminum spacers. I realilze the brackets are pretty much 3/8's laser cut steel. but whats the opinions on the spacers. Any one have any failure either way. Thanks a bunch for the info.

*trkklr77* · 06-30-2007, 03:14 PM

DONT USE SPACERS,

the best brackets to get are from sky manufacturing, they are 3/8" plate steel and are pressed/broke and bent over to the correct distance. they are $90 but they are very nice and will not slop and slide like the flat plate spacered versions.

http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/ in the chevy section.

Southedisto · 06-30-2007, 04:15 PM

Some of the brackets on egay look scary to me because of the reasons you posted above.

I have DIY4X brackets, they are great never had any problems with them at all. Kert has superb customer service also, which can't be said for all mfrs. Although do use a spacer, per say, it is as beefy as you can get.

DIY4X brake page

I have used SKY products also, and maybe I caught them at a bad time, but I was lied to for a week about my items. Until I told them I wanted a refund and then the truth came out and my item shipped. May be an isolated incident, but it left a nasty taste in my mouth.

Here is the DIY4X brackets

earl87gta · 06-30-2007, 05:53 PM

These are the ones I used and there only http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php only $45 if you order them from here http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477819

1968vetL-71 · 07-01-2007, 09:22 AM

Thanks for the information guys. I will definately go with one of the two "bent" bracket approaches. The 2 sets look pretty much the same, and the one is half the price. Kinda puts you in that state of mind where you wonder either one is priced to high, or the cheaper one is cheaply made

**kwmech** · 07-01-2007, 11:07 AM

I used spacers for years on a truck I don't own anymore and never had any problems---although once everything was in place I welded the spacer to the housing on the original flange

earl87gta · 07-01-2007, 05:25 PM

Ruff stuff sells them as quick as he can get them there has to be a few 100 people on pirate running them so I dont think its cheaply made. he says he makes his proffit off volume not high pricing. the set I have look as stronge as the stock d44 caliper brakets on my front axle.

*trkklr77* · 07-01-2007, 06:52 PM

i dont like the ruff stuff ones because of the bolt hole in the center of the span. i think they are going to be prone to tear ing much like the early disk brackets did. skys are thick in that area.

i have sky's and would buy them again even though they are more$$$
i got mine in about 4 days.

earl87gta · 07-02-2007, 12:02 AM

Ya they could use a little more meat up there but Ive neever herd of any of them failing. I like the Sky and DIYs too but Im cheap.

mudmizer · 07-02-2007, 12:27 AM

Hey guys which rotors and calipers would I need. I believe the calipers are basic 70 gm calipers, how about the rotors? If I want functioning E-brake do I need eldorado calipers? what years?

EFI70Blazer · 07-02-2007, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudmizer

Hey guys which rotors and calipers would I need. I believe the calipers are basic 70 gm calipers, how about the rotors? If I want functioning E-brake do I need eldorado calipers? what years?

76-78 Cadillac Eldorado calipers. Make sure you get levers and springs with the calipers since they are kind of hard to come by.

Here is where i got mine and they do come with levers. http://www.tsmmfg.com/3121.htm

drink2mny · 07-02-2007, 12:12 PM

we are always another option.. We are on here and Pirates.

www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com

Plus we support the board..

We do complete custom kits. No guess work and warrantied.

mudmizer · 07-02-2007, 08:58 PM

Thanks on the calipers, but what do I get the rotors from?

*trkklr77* · 07-02-2007, 10:24 PM

any 8 lug d44 or 10b chevy, they are $25 brand new from parts places

EFI70Blazer · 07-02-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mudmizer

Thanks on the calipers, but what do I get the rotors from?

Should be able to get them at any auto parts store. You just need to get 3/4 front rotors. 73-87 should work.

mudmizer · 07-05-2007, 08:17 PM

Thank guys

**jamie72** · 07-05-2007, 10:12 PM

what brackets use the stock front truck calipers???

msgross · 07-05-2007, 10:13 PM

ord brackets says they do...

*trkklr77* · 07-05-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie72

what brackets use the stock front truck calipers???

uh....... all of them

06-30-2007, 10:40 AM	#1
1968vetL-71 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, Tn Posts: 1,092	14 bolt disc conversion I know this topic is widely covered. But I have seen so many different types on ebay for sale ( brackets basically ). I am hung up on the spacer issue. I have seen some with dom tubing spacers, black pipe, small angle pieces welded on bracket, and a really neat set with machinged aluminum spacers. I realilze the brackets are pretty much 3/8's laser cut steel. but whats the opinions on the spacers. Any one have any failure either way. Thanks a bunch for the info. __________________ 1969 impala conv 427 #s loaded. dad bought new 1969 "Judge" RA-3, rare warwick blue/white, #'s 1968 vet convertible #s 427/435 tripower (sold) 1968 belair 2door post #s 427/385 1936 ford 5w coupe dads 1st car 1969 camaro ss (17,xxx) miles Wanted: 69-72 suburban project, 69 camaro convertible. also any big block cars. 69-70 gto judge project.

06-30-2007, 03:14 PM	#2
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 775	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion DONT USE SPACERS, the best brackets to get are from sky manufacturing, they are 3/8" plate steel and are pressed/broke and bent over to the correct distance. they are $90 but they are very nice and will not slop and slide like the flat plate spacered versions. http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/ in the chevy section.

06-30-2007, 04:15 PM	#3
Southedisto River life...... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soldotna AK Posts: 1,078	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Some of the brackets on egay look scary to me because of the reasons you posted above. I have DIY4X brackets, they are great never had any problems with them at all. Kert has superb customer service also, which can't be said for all mfrs. Although do use a spacer, per say, it is as beefy as you can get. DIY4X brake page I have used SKY products also, and maybe I caught them at a bad time, but I was lied to for a week about my items. Until I told them I wanted a refund and then the truth came out and my item shipped. May be an isolated incident, but it left a nasty taste in my mouth. Here is the DIY4X brackets __________________ I like wheelin in Dixie!

06-30-2007, 05:53 PM	#4
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion These are the ones I used and there only http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php only $45 if you order them from here http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477819 Attached Images __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb Last edited by earl87gta; 06-30-2007 at 05:56 PM.

07-01-2007, 09:22 AM	#5
1968vetL-71 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, Tn Posts: 1,092	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Thanks for the information guys. I will definately go with one of the two "bent" bracket approaches. The 2 sets look pretty much the same, and the one is half the price. Kinda puts you in that state of mind where you wonder either one is priced to high, or the cheaper one is cheaply made __________________ 1969 impala conv 427 #s loaded. dad bought new 1969 "Judge" RA-3, rare warwick blue/white, #'s 1968 vet convertible #s 427/435 tripower (sold) 1968 belair 2door post #s 427/385 1936 ford 5w coupe dads 1st car 1969 camaro ss (17,xxx) miles Wanted: 69-72 suburban project, 69 camaro convertible. also any big block cars. 69-70 gto judge project.

07-01-2007, 11:07 AM	#6
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,650	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion I used spacers for years on a truck I don't own anymore and never had any problems---although once everything was in place I welded the spacer to the housing on the original flange

07-01-2007, 05:25 PM	#7
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Ruff stuff sells them as quick as he can get them there has to be a few 100 people on pirate running them so I dont think its cheaply made. he says he makes his proffit off volume not high pricing. the set I have look as stronge as the stock d44 caliper brakets on my front axle. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb Last edited by earl87gta; 07-01-2007 at 05:27 PM.

07-01-2007, 06:52 PM	#8
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 775	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion i dont like the ruff stuff ones because of the bolt hole in the center of the span. i think they are going to be prone to tear ing much like the early disk brackets did. skys are thick in that area. i have sky's and would buy them again even though they are more$$$ i got mine in about 4 days.

07-02-2007, 12:02 AM	#9
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Ya they could use a little more meat up there but Ive neever herd of any of them failing. I like the Sky and DIYs too but Im cheap. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb Last edited by earl87gta; 07-02-2007 at 12:03 AM.

07-02-2007, 12:27 AM	#10
mudmizer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bellingham, washington Posts: 260	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Hey guys which rotors and calipers would I need. I believe the calipers are basic 70 gm calipers, how about the rotors? If I want functioning E-brake do I need eldorado calipers? what years? __________________ 68 4x4, 454, 4 speed, disk brakes both ends, Sold my 69 SS396 Elcamino when young & stupid

07-02-2007, 12:12 PM	#12
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion we are always another option.. We are on here and Pirates. www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com Plus we support the board.. We do complete custom kits. No guess work and warrantied. __________________ Support The Board

07-02-2007, 08:58 PM	#13
mudmizer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bellingham, washington Posts: 260	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Thanks on the calipers, but what do I get the rotors from? __________________ 68 4x4, 454, 4 speed, disk brakes both ends, Sold my 69 SS396 Elcamino when young & stupid

07-02-2007, 10:24 PM	#14
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 775	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion any 8 lug d44 or 10b chevy, they are $25 brand new from parts places

07-05-2007, 08:17 PM	#16
mudmizer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bellingham, washington Posts: 260	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion Thank guys __________________ 68 4x4, 454, 4 speed, disk brakes both ends, Sold my 69 SS396 Elcamino when young & stupid

07-05-2007, 10:12 PM	#17
jamie72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: madison indiana Posts: 3,836	Re: 14 bolt disc conversion what brackets use the stock front truck calipers??? __________________ jamie72 72 BB cheyenne -- Restoration getting started.. member #807 http://www.myspace.com/whitetailobsession www.antlertalk.com



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07-05-2007, 10:13 PM	#18
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