Front springs.... pt. 2 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

RojoLoco · 08-21-2007, 05:17 PM

Hello again. Should there be any sort of rubber bushing/isolator for the front coil springs? I can't for the life of me remember if there was any when I tore down the front end. The front is out of a '78 if that makes a difference. After payday im going to order 2" drop coils for the front. Thanks Dale.

Sam_in_AZ · 08-21-2007, 06:09 PM

Hey Rojo -
I JUST tore my front suspension totally apart this last weekend, control arms, X-member - everything!
There were no bushings, etc. between my coils and lower OR upper control arms.
mine is a 64 C10 with drums... I'm also going with 2.5" drop spindles, plus cutting 1 or 1.5 coils

Sam

jchav62 · 08-21-2007, 07:30 PM

I don't believe there is any rubber bushing or anything in the front coils... I've only seen that on newer vehicles...

RojoLoco · 08-21-2007, 11:58 PM

Thanks for the replies. OK, im not crazy then. I didnt think there were any.

Sam59 · 08-23-2007, 06:10 PM

any pics of the drop rojo?

Jdub · 08-23-2007, 06:24 PM

if nothing else, i wanna see some pics of that 512 caddy!

satin64 · 08-23-2007, 06:27 PM

me too since i have a 500/th400 combo sitting in the garage

NF65Fleetside · 08-23-2007, 07:09 PM

aye you guys with the BBC's, will those still bold up to a th350? just wondering incase I come across a 500 myself!hehehehe

RojoLoco · 08-23-2007, 07:57 PM

Ill try and get some pics of whats been done so far. The rear has a CCP c-notch kit in it that we fully boxed. The trailing arms are fully boxed as well. I took some large diameter tubing and cut holes in the trailing arm mount to run my exhaust through. My friend and I spent a long time designing the custom mounts for the Caddy motor. The Caddy motor mount holes are farther forward on the block than a Chevy so we had to make mounts that took that into account. We also made addapters to use SBC urethane motor mounts. It isnt nessesary to but I cut a large section of firewall out. The driver side bank of cylinders sits farther back on the Caddy and gets pretty close.

Also, for what it is worth. ALL Caddy 472/500's came with TH400's. I wouldnt run a TH350 behind one. Just my opinion.

NF65Fleetside · 08-23-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RojoLoco

Ill try and get some pics of whats been done so far. The rear has a CCP c-notch kit in it that we fully boxed. The trailing arms are fully boxed as well. I took some large diameter tubing and cut holes in the trailing arm mount to run my exhaust through. My friend and I spent a long time designing the custom mounts for the Caddy motor. The Caddy motor mount holes are farther forward on the block than a Chevy so we had to make mounts that took that into account. We also made addapters to use SBC urethane motor mounts. It isnt nessesary to but I cut a large section of firewall out. The driver side bank of cylinders sits farther back on the Caddy and gets pretty close.

Also, for what it is worth. ALL Caddy 472/500's came with TH400's. I wouldnt run a TH350 behind one. Just my opinion.

Sorry to thread jack but could you post in another thread some pics of your engine bay, im really curious about this caddy swap now...and also what would be the downside of a 350 vs a 400 or maybe even a 700? Thanks man.

RojoLoco · 08-23-2007, 10:05 PM

The front wrap and inner fenders are off the truck right now. Bed is off too. The only thing on the Frame is the cab and doors. Im in the "putting it back together stage".

As far as the TH350 you would want a very well built one behind a Caddy 500. Only because of the gobs of torque these motors make even in stock form. A 700r4 that would live behind a 500 would cost thousands to build. I looked into it. Your money would be better spent getting a GearVenders's unit to go behind a TH400. Nearly bullet proof.

63 & 64 Bowties · 08-24-2007, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NF65Fleetside

Sorry to thread jack but could you post in another thread some pics of your engine bay, im really curious about this caddy swap now...and also what would be the downside of a 350 vs a 400 or maybe even a 700? Thanks man.

NF65Fleetside, check out this thread (10 pages) about the 500 Cad
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...ad.php?t=20020
Also, board member Longhorn Man has lots of links to pics and tech info on his 500 Cad in a 67-72
If I remember right, that thread that's in the link above was started way back in 2002. Lots and Lots of good info if you're interested in the 500 Caddy. Didn't know if you'd seen it yet. Hope that helps.

satin64 · 08-24-2007, 12:57 PM

the caddy motor uses a b.o.p. trans not a regular gm trans.as far as i know no one makes an adapter to use any other trans.you need this style of trans

u need the u shaped case.heres some links to give a better idea on the cads performance.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P.../Engineid.html
check out the torque!
http://www.cad500parts.com/

sanford66 · 08-24-2007, 02:28 PM

TCI makes a B.O.P.C. adapter plate for the transmission. I know I have one. Joe

satin64 · 08-24-2007, 02:37 PM

cool now i know

08-21-2007, 05:17 PM	#1
RojoLoco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 36	Front springs.... pt. 2 Hello again. Should there be any sort of rubber bushing/isolator for the front coil springs? I can't for the life of me remember if there was any when I tore down the front end. The front is out of a '78 if that makes a difference. After payday im going to order 2" drop coils for the front. Thanks Dale. __________________ Project: 1966 Chevy C-10 short step-side. 512 Caddy, 10:1 pistons, 76cc heads with oversize valves, Shaft rocker system, MT-10 cam, Edelbrock intake, BBC headers with fabbed Cad flanges.

08-21-2007, 06:09 PM	#2
Sam_in_AZ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Canyon, Arizona Posts: 35	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 Hey Rojo - I JUST tore my front suspension totally apart this last weekend, control arms, X-member - everything! There were no bushings, etc. between my coils and lower OR upper control arms. mine is a 64 C10 with drums... I'm also going with 2.5" drop spindles, plus cutting 1 or 1.5 coils Sam __________________ 64 Short Step 327 3spd

08-21-2007, 07:30 PM	#3
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 I don't believe there is any rubber bushing or anything in the front coils... I've only seen that on newer vehicles... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

08-21-2007, 11:58 PM	#4
RojoLoco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 36	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 Thanks for the replies. OK, im not crazy then. I didnt think there were any. __________________ Project: 1966 Chevy C-10 short step-side. 512 Caddy, 10:1 pistons, 76cc heads with oversize valves, Shaft rocker system, MT-10 cam, Edelbrock intake, BBC headers with fabbed Cad flanges.

08-23-2007, 06:10 PM	#5
Sam59 Flat Broke Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moore, Oklahoma Posts: 209	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 any pics of the drop rojo?

08-23-2007, 06:24 PM	#6
Jdub Big gulps huh? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moore, OK Posts: 63	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 if nothing else, i wanna see some pics of that 512 caddy! __________________ When in Rome.. 1966 Chevy C10 Long Stepside: PROJECT TRUCK= custom cracked windshield, and uhh some sweet boat carpet 2000 GMC Sierra Short Wide: SHOW TRUCK= 22's, bags, performance engine, system, tv, blah blah blah 2004 VTX 1300C: DAILY DRIVER= Custom flame paint job, pipes, grips, mirrors, lights, pegs, etc etc ...2006 Honda Accord: OLD LADYS RIDE

08-23-2007, 06:27 PM	#7
satin64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: st.helens oregon Posts: 312	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 me too since i have a 500/th400 combo sitting in the garage

08-23-2007, 07:09 PM	#8
NF65Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 674	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 aye you guys with the BBC's, will those still bold up to a th350? just wondering incase I come across a 500 myself!hehehehe

08-23-2007, 07:57 PM	#9
RojoLoco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 36	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 Ill try and get some pics of whats been done so far. The rear has a CCP c-notch kit in it that we fully boxed. The trailing arms are fully boxed as well. I took some large diameter tubing and cut holes in the trailing arm mount to run my exhaust through. My friend and I spent a long time designing the custom mounts for the Caddy motor. The Caddy motor mount holes are farther forward on the block than a Chevy so we had to make mounts that took that into account. We also made addapters to use SBC urethane motor mounts. It isnt nessesary to but I cut a large section of firewall out. The driver side bank of cylinders sits farther back on the Caddy and gets pretty close. Also, for what it is worth. ALL Caddy 472/500's came with TH400's. I wouldnt run a TH350 behind one. Just my opinion. __________________ Project: 1966 Chevy C-10 short step-side. 512 Caddy, 10:1 pistons, 76cc heads with oversize valves, Shaft rocker system, MT-10 cam, Edelbrock intake, BBC headers with fabbed Cad flanges.

08-23-2007, 10:05 PM	#11
RojoLoco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 36	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 The front wrap and inner fenders are off the truck right now. Bed is off too. The only thing on the Frame is the cab and doors. Im in the "putting it back together stage". As far as the TH350 you would want a very well built one behind a Caddy 500. Only because of the gobs of torque these motors make even in stock form. A 700r4 that would live behind a 500 would cost thousands to build. I looked into it. Your money would be better spent getting a GearVenders's unit to go behind a TH400. Nearly bullet proof. __________________ Project: 1966 Chevy C-10 short step-side. 512 Caddy, 10:1 pistons, 76cc heads with oversize valves, Shaft rocker system, MT-10 cam, Edelbrock intake, BBC headers with fabbed Cad flanges.

08-24-2007, 12:57 PM	#13
satin64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: st.helens oregon Posts: 312	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 the caddy motor uses a b.o.p. trans not a regular gm trans.as far as i know no one makes an adapter to use any other trans.you need this style of trans u need the u shaped case.heres some links to give a better idea on the cads performance. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P.../Engineid.html check out the torque! http://www.cad500parts.com/

08-24-2007, 02:28 PM	#14
sanford66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Everest Ks Posts: 749	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 TCI makes a B.O.P.C. adapter plate for the transmission. I know I have one. Joe

08-24-2007, 02:37 PM	#15
satin64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: st.helens oregon Posts: 312	Re: Front springs.... pt. 2 cool now i know



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