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XXL · 10-06-2002, 07:03 PM

Alright, you guys out there who have done the late model brake booster and master cylinder, what did it take to swap it in place of the stock parts?

Is it bolt in? Does it mount to the stock studs? What about the shaft that runs through the firewall? And can you bend the stock lines enough to get them to meet up with the new MC?

I've been looking at that nasty jumbo sized booster in my truck today and I think it needs to go. I'm going to all this trouble to smooth the firewall only to hang that giant thing on there. Anybody who's done this swap, I'd sure appreciate any pointers. And, I'm pushing my luck here, but if you've got part numbers or donor vehicle info, that would be great!

Thanks,

Kenneth

Longhorn Man · 10-06-2002, 07:14 PM

Just dump the booster all together. Then you can run the biggest cam you can get your hands on!

XXL · 10-06-2002, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by longhornmail
Just dump the booster all together. Then you can run the biggest cam you can get your hands on!

I like the "lope" my 1-bbl 250 has already

Oh... and I like to stop!

Kenneth

Longhorn Man · 10-07-2002, 12:09 AM

LOL...good point on both acounts.
And TTT too.

Slammed67 · 10-07-2002, 12:35 AM

XXL: I've got a '85 chevy 1/2 ton master cylinder and no booster on my truck and it stops better than I had imagined. I've got the stick front disks/rear drums. If you don't mind a little extra pedal effort, that's the way to go in my opinion. I used to have the stock booster and it was nice, but this setup looks much cleaner, especailly with the smooth firewall. The master cylinder is made of aluminum and the reservoir is plastic........ no more rust!

As for modifications, I had to of course get a manual brake push rod and slightly enlarge the hole in the firewall where the MC pokes through. I originally was going to use the same year S-10 MC, and it fit the original hole, but figured I better go with the 1/2 ton MC since it has a larger bore.

Longhorn Man · 10-07-2002, 12:43 AM

Hmmm, that does look pretty nice like that....

XXL · 10-07-2002, 12:48 AM

Thanks for the photo!

So does this just bolt right up? What about the shaft? Is it from the '67 or the 85' or are they the same? And if I decide I don't want to give up power, does the booster from the '85 just sit in between the two and bolt right up?

Thanks again,

Kenneth

Slammed67 · 10-07-2002, 12:16 PM

The only real modification I had to make was slightly enlarging the hole where the MC goes through the firewall. The bolt holes line right up. I left the two upper holes in my firewall in case I wanted to go back to a booster. I just filled the holes with some nice shiny stainless pan-head bolts. As for the shaft, or pushrod, I pulled one out of a '67 Impala I found at the junkyard thinking it might work. Well, it was too short so I welded some extensions to the "clevis" part, where it hooks to the pedal. I would think a stock manual shaft would work, but I just didn't have one (and I never pass up the chance to get out the grinder and welder)

Now that it is installed, I think I could shorten the shaft and bring the pedal closer to the floor. I've got plenty of room between the floor and the pedal when the brakes are locked up. That way, I wouldn't have to lift my leg up so much to hit the brakes (I've got long legs). The only thing that hold the shaft to the MC is the force of the return spring and whatever stops it as it is release. Therefore, the "stop" would have to be moved forward and then the shaft adjusted accordingly. Make sense?

jay-dawg · 10-07-2002, 01:33 PM

Hey Kenneth,
I found a shop in the new street trucks mag with the yellow caddy conversion high rise truck on the front. It has a company that makes a power booster to locate under the floor boards like the old 53 trucks. I forgot the company but will look it up. I'm thinking of doing that. It cost ~$450.

jay

XXL · 10-07-2002, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by jay-dawg
Hey Kenneth,
I found a shop in the new street trucks mag with the yellow caddy conversion high rise truck on the front. It has a company that makes a power booster to locate under the floor boards like the old 53 trucks. I forgot the company but will look it up. I'm thinking of doing that. It cost ~$450.

jay

Thanks! I've seen the type you are referring to as well as the Engineered Components setup. It's a firewall mount but it's pretty small and is $270.00. I'm also hoping to get to a boneyard soon and see what the '88+ Chevy truck setup looks like with the booster.

Thanks again,

Kenneth

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 10-07-2002, 09:52 PM

I think that kit is for 48-59 trucks. If it is you need donor brake pedal arm and arm that connects to the booster along with the frame bracket and tubular trans crossmember to clear the booster master cylinder setup. BEEN THERE,DONE THAT, STILL WAITING ON THE T-SHIRT.

jay-dawg · 10-08-2002, 01:56 PM

I found the ad again. It is from Turner Enterprises. It says they cater to 60-72 chevy trucks. They've got everything from dropped front crossmembers to a 4" IFS system. I'll call tomorrow to see if they have a catalog.

jay

XXL · 10-08-2002, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by jay-dawg
I found the ad again. It is from Turner Enterprises. It says they cater to 60-72 chevy trucks. They've got everything from dropped front crossmembers to a 4" IFS system. I'll call tomorrow to see if they have a catalog.

jay

Thanks for checking with them. I didn't even think of them for brake booster stuff. BTW, those guys have lots of nice goodies for our trucks. They don't have a web site (that I am aware of), but if they've got a print catalog I may have to give them a call.

Kenneth

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 10-09-2002, 08:43 AM

Anybody have the phone# for them?

jay-dawg · 10-09-2002, 01:40 PM

I'll post it when I get home.

jay

XXL · 10-09-2002, 07:06 PM

Here's what I have for them. I haven't called in a while... hopefully it's still a good number.

Turner Enterprises
909-926-1729

Kenneth

XXL · 10-25-2002, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jay-dawg
I found the ad again. It is from Turner Enterprises. It says they cater to 60-72 chevy trucks. They've got everything from dropped front crossmembers to a 4" IFS system. I'll call tomorrow to see if they have a catalog.

jay

Did you ever get a chance to call Turner? Do they have a catalog?

Thanks,

Kenneth

XXL · 10-28-2002, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXL

Did you ever get a chance to call Turner? Do they have a catalog?

Thanks,

Kenneth

I guess not.

jay-dawg · 10-28-2002, 04:08 PM

sorry man...I've been busy getting my rearend out of the truck.
I'll try and call tomorrow morning if I remember (I'm 3 hours early).

jay

jay-dawg · 11-03-2002, 02:37 PM

sup kenneth,
I called them yesterday and the number in the mag is wrong. Guy said he got two other calls that day so it wasn't just me. I'll be sending a letter for a catalog and also let them know about this site. (Hopefully we can get some deals!!!)

I guess we'll have to wait.

jay

67shortie · 11-03-2002, 03:38 PM

Sorry to bust in here

Slammed, what is that proportioning valve off of? Same year truck, disk/drum?

Slammed67 · 11-03-2002, 04:13 PM

67Shortie: The proportioning valve is off an '85 S-10. I used it because I originally planned on using the S-10 master cylinder, so I already had it. I would assume that it is the same as the 1/2 ton valve. It works just fine.

Low69CST · 11-04-2002, 02:23 AM

Has anybody mated a late modle booster and mastercylinder to the original brackets? I was wanting to do something simular to that. I always thought that corvette style boosters looked cool, but I don't they would cross over very well, I kind of hate to start fabbing brake components up. Good way to create a death trap.

jay-dawg · 11-05-2002, 04:20 AM

Here's the address:

Turner Enterprises
26575 Cortrite Ave.
Hemet, CA 92545

I had to search the internet because it was missing the zip code also.

jay

10-06-2002, 07:03 PM	#1
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Late model brake booster and master cylinder? Alright, you guys out there who have done the late model brake booster and master cylinder, what did it take to swap it in place of the stock parts? Is it bolt in? Does it mount to the stock studs? What about the shaft that runs through the firewall? And can you bend the stock lines enough to get them to meet up with the new MC? I've been looking at that nasty jumbo sized booster in my truck today and I think it needs to go. I'm going to all this trouble to smooth the firewall only to hang that giant thing on there. Anybody who's done this swap, I'd sure appreciate any pointers. And, I'm pushing my luck here, but if you've got part numbers or donor vehicle info, that would be great! Thanks, Kenneth __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

10-07-2002, 12:35 AM	#5
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	XXL: I've got a '85 chevy 1/2 ton master cylinder and no booster on my truck and it stops better than I had imagined. I've got the stick front disks/rear drums. If you don't mind a little extra pedal effort, that's the way to go in my opinion. I used to have the stock booster and it was nice, but this setup looks much cleaner, especailly with the smooth firewall. The master cylinder is made of aluminum and the reservoir is plastic........ no more rust! As for modifications, I had to of course get a manual brake push rod and slightly enlarge the hole in the firewall where the MC pokes through. I originally was going to use the same year S-10 MC, and it fit the original hole, but figured I better go with the 1/2 ton MC since it has a larger bore. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra Last edited by Slammed67; 10-07-2002 at 12:47 AM.

10-07-2002, 12:48 AM	#7
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Thanks for the photo! So does this just bolt right up? What about the shaft? Is it from the '67 or the 85' or are they the same? And if I decide I don't want to give up power, does the booster from the '85 just sit in between the two and bolt right up? Thanks again, Kenneth __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

10-07-2002, 12:16 PM	#8
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	The only real modification I had to make was slightly enlarging the hole where the MC goes through the firewall. The bolt holes line right up. I left the two upper holes in my firewall in case I wanted to go back to a booster. I just filled the holes with some nice shiny stainless pan-head bolts. As for the shaft, or pushrod, I pulled one out of a '67 Impala I found at the junkyard thinking it might work. Well, it was too short so I welded some extensions to the "clevis" part, where it hooks to the pedal. I would think a stock manual shaft would work, but I just didn't have one (and I never pass up the chance to get out the grinder and welder) Now that it is installed, I think I could shorten the shaft and bring the pedal closer to the floor. I've got plenty of room between the floor and the pedal when the brakes are locked up. That way, I wouldn't have to lift my leg up so much to hit the brakes (I've got long legs). The only thing that hold the shaft to the MC is the force of the return spring and whatever stops it as it is release. Therefore, the "stop" would have to be moved forward and then the shaft adjusted accordingly. Make sense? __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

10-07-2002, 01:33 PM	#9
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	Hey Kenneth, I found a shop in the new street trucks mag with the yellow caddy conversion high rise truck on the front. It has a company that makes a power booster to locate under the floor boards like the old 53 trucks. I forgot the company but will look it up. I'm thinking of doing that. It cost ~$450. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

10-06-2002, 07:14 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Just dump the booster all together. Then you can run the biggest cam you can get your hands on!

10-07-2002, 12:09 AM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	LOL...good point on both acounts. And TTT too.

10-07-2002, 12:43 AM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Hmmm, that does look pretty nice like that....

10-07-2002, 09:52 PM	#11
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	I think that kit is for 48-59 trucks. If it is you need donor brake pedal arm and arm that connects to the booster along with the frame bracket and tubular trans crossmember to clear the booster master cylinder setup. BEEN THERE,DONE THAT, STILL WAITING ON THE T-SHIRT. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

10-08-2002, 01:56 PM	#12
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	I found the ad again. It is from Turner Enterprises. It says they cater to 60-72 chevy trucks. They've got everything from dropped front crossmembers to a 4" IFS system. I'll call tomorrow to see if they have a catalog. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

10-09-2002, 08:43 AM	#14
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	Anybody have the phone# for them? __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

10-09-2002, 01:40 PM	#15
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	I'll post it when I get home. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

10-09-2002, 07:06 PM	#16
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Here's what I have for them. I haven't called in a while... hopefully it's still a good number. Turner Enterprises 909-926-1729 Kenneth __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

10-28-2002, 04:08 PM	#19
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	sorry man...I've been busy getting my rearend out of the truck. I'll try and call tomorrow morning if I remember (I'm 3 hours early). jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

11-03-2002, 02:37 PM	#20
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	sup kenneth, I called them yesterday and the number in the mag is wrong. Guy said he got two other calls that day so it wasn't just me. I'll be sending a letter for a catalog and also let them know about this site. (Hopefully we can get some deals!!!) I guess we'll have to wait. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI



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11-03-2002, 03:38 PM	#21
67shortie Green club Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central CA Posts: 1,059	Sorry to bust in here Slammed, what is that proportioning valve off of? Same year truck, disk/drum? __________________ 71 short/fleet ECE 4/6 drop, LQ4/700r4/3.42 gears 70 SS396 Chevelle 427/200-4R/3.73posi 61 Lincoln Continental, black on black Son you are going to drive me to drinkin if you don't stop drivin that hot rod lincoln

11-03-2002, 04:13 PM	#22
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	67Shortie: The proportioning valve is off an '85 S-10. I used it because I originally planned on using the S-10 master cylinder, so I already had it. I would assume that it is the same as the 1/2 ton valve. It works just fine. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

11-04-2002, 02:23 AM	#23
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	Has anybody mated a late modle booster and mastercylinder to the original brackets? I was wanting to do something simular to that. I always thought that corvette style boosters looked cool, but I don't they would cross over very well, I kind of hate to start fabbing brake components up. Good way to create a death trap. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

11-05-2002, 04:20 AM	#24
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	Here's the address: Turner Enterprises 26575 Cortrite Ave. Hemet, CA 92545 I had to search the internet because it was missing the zip code also. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

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