1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-03-2007, 11:55 PM

I heard from a friend of mine that in 1969 on some of the 4x4's, gm had a divorced 205 case in them instead of a married set up. Has anyone seen any of these before? If so what is a fair price to pay for one so I don't get some over priced unit. He said he has one and I might buy it for my longhorn when I convert it to 4wd. Thanks for any help guys.

OLDCHEV4X4 · 11-04-2007, 07:55 AM

I've never seen one. Or heard of one. But thats not to say they ain't out there.

duallyjams · 11-04-2007, 08:29 AM

I've only seen divorced transfer case on pre 1967 trucks (1960-1966)

**special-K** · 11-04-2007, 09:26 AM

I don`t think it`ll be a NP205 if it`s GM.It could be from a Ford or Dodge,though,if it`s a NP205.They can be used on our trucks.They are desireable for their versatility but not really bringing any more money than any other unit.I`d get it for it`s rarity.It would allow using 2wd tranmissions and give a better front d-shaft angle on a lifted truck.

OLDCHEV4X4 · 11-04-2007, 09:37 AM

I just sold a NP205 from a 76 Ford f250, divorced, driverside drop, $100.
But ive never saw one on a 67 and up chevy.

DirtyLarry · 11-04-2007, 09:46 AM

Factory K30’s did not exist until 1977. Any K30 prior to then was a conversion by a GM upfitter hence, the divorced tcase.

1969 GMC · 11-04-2007, 03:42 PM

It would make sense that if you found one of the uber-uncommon Napco trucks, it might have a divorced 205. But it wouldn't be worth any more than a Dodge or IH version.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-04-2007, 04:15 PM

Ok, thanks for the info guys. I haven't seen it yet, but plan on buying it. They seem to be getting harder to find. Imagine that, like everything else! LOL

earl87gta · 11-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Im using a dodge one in my burb. I like how I can use any trans I want with out having to hunt down adaptors to make it work.

Old Chevy Mech · 11-04-2007, 09:49 PM

Ok, newbie question..what is a "divorced" transfer case?

LOL

Frank

b454rat · 11-04-2007, 10:49 PM

There is a K30 in a yard where I am, can't think of what year it is, but it has a div. case and it's not a 205. Rockwell or something like that. They aren't really worth much inless someone is restoring one and looking for period correct stuff.

A div. case is a transfer that isn't attached the tranny. With this setup, you can use any tranny you want. Also 2wd tranny's can be cheaper and easier to find.

**kwmech** · 11-04-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Chevy Mech

Ok, newbie question..what is a "divorced" transfer case?

LOL

Frank

A transfer case that is not directly bolted up to the transmission, and requires a driveshaft between the trans and the t-case

Old Chevy Mech · 11-05-2007, 08:56 AM

I see, so a setup that has that adapter housing that couples the two and serves as the rear trans mount is not considered as divorced, correct?

Frank

**special-K** · 11-05-2007, 09:25 AM

That`s married.

Blue_71 · 11-05-2007, 10:28 AM

now for the million dollar question, which is the happier transfer case?

1969k10stepside · 11-05-2007, 11:59 AM

I'm going with the divorced 205 for the win!

One...in '69 there was no NP205s on any GM truck.They were Rockwell T221s.

Two..Rockwells were divorced transfer cases in the first era of factory GM 4wds (60-66).I've heard that a few 67s may have still had a divorced t-case behind the SM420 but after that until GM switched to the NP205,the Rockwell t-case was married to the SM465,or a SM420 (in 67s) tranny.

I've never seen a GM with a divorced NP205 transfer case..If there is one in a GM 4wd,it's probably a Dodge NP205...I wonder why a GM tranny would want to be divorced from a Dodge transfer case?

Guess it doesn't like Dodges....

1969 GMC · 11-05-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by b454rat

There is a K30 in a yard where I am, can't think of what year it is, but it has a div. case and it's not a 205. Rockwell or something like that. They aren't really worth much inless someone is restoring one and looking for period correct stuff.

That's probably a Dana 23, if it isn't a Rockwell. They were used in some of the Napco trucks.

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Originally Posted by 1969k10stepside

One...in '69 there was no NP205s on any GM truck.They were Rockwell T221s.

I think that first statement is a little bold. I'm fairly certain that every automatic 1969 K5 had a NP205, and some of the stick shift ones did as well.

There were some 1969 trucks that had NP205's also. They had the oddball shifter that emulated the Rockwell shifter and came up next to the driver's leg instead of on the other side of the hump, which later NP205 trucks switched to.

1969k10stepside · 11-05-2007, 01:41 PM

I said truck,not blazer

I've seen one '69 K20 that had a NP205,it was probably a late '69 model year and had a 70 drivetrain since they started using 205s in 70.

duallyjams · 11-05-2007, 11:39 PM

When you have a divorced transfer case you have to align up the drive shaft between the trans and transfer case and the the transfer case and rear or it will vibrate drive at normal high way speed.
Pros and cons to everything.

**special-K** · 11-06-2007, 07:23 AM

Blazers are trucks,just not pickup trucks.Like a van is a truck,just not a pickup.Were there automatic`69 Blazers?I just figured all 4wds were manual up until`70 which is when and why the NP205 came in.

jacobs · 11-06-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Blazers are trucks,just not pickup trucks.Like a van is a truck,just not a pickup.Were there automatic`69 Blazers?I just figured all 4wds were manual up until`70 which is when and why the NP205 came in.

I ordered a new 4x4 Blazer in 1969 with a 350 engine and turbo 350 automatic transmission. GM was on strike at that time and I got tired of waiting on it so I purchased a new 1969 pickup off the dealers lot instead. So the answer is yes, automatics were available in 1969.

67-72williso · 11-06-2007, 10:02 PM

I saw a GMC Jimmy at the junk yard today that had a SM-465 with a Dana 20 tranfer case. I think it might have been a 69 or 70, what a weird transfer case shifter.
Willis

Old Chevy Mech · 11-07-2007, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67-72williso

I saw a GMC Jimmy at the junk yard today that had a SM-465 with a Dana 20 tranfer case. I think it might have been a 69 or 70, what a weird transfer case shifter.
Willis

You should try finding a boot that works!

Frank

**special-K** · 11-08-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jacobs

I ordered a new 4x4 Blazer in 1969 with a 350 engine and turbo 350 automatic transmission. GM was on strike at that time and I got tired of waiting on it so I purchased a new 1969 pickup off the dealers lot instead. So the answer is yes, automatics were available in 1969.

Do you know what transfer case you had with the automatic?

jacobs · 11-08-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Do you know what transfer case you had with the automatic?

Sorry...It's been too many years. If I knew at that time, I've forgotten. Since I didn't wait for GM to settle the strike, I cancelled the order and bought a new 2 wheel drive pickup off their lot.

My 1969 GMC service manual shows only the Rockwell transmission on both the 3 speed and 4 speed manual transmissions. If I remember right, the Blazer, was the only 4 wheel drive to get an automatic transmission in 1969. Because the 1969 Blazer was introduced midyear and GM went on a lengthy strike shortly thereafter, very few Blazers were manufactured that year.

11-03-2007, 11:55 PM	#1
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I heard from a friend of mine that in 1969 on some of the 4x4's, gm had a divorced 205 case in them instead of a married set up. Has anyone seen any of these before? If so what is a fair price to pay for one so I don't get some over priced unit. He said he has one and I might buy it for my longhorn when I convert it to 4wd. Thanks for any help guys.

11-04-2007, 07:55 AM	#2
OLDCHEV4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Chester County PA, USA Posts: 1,228	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I've never seen one. Or heard of one. But thats not to say they ain't out there. __________________ 72 k/10 short wideside 72 k/5 Blazer 72 K/5 Blazer - obstacle course racer 72 custom/10 8' bed 70 K/5 Blazer 67 C-30 GMC Flat bed 86 GMC K2500 Plow Truck 85 GMC K3500 84 M1008 85 M1008 77 G30 Motor Home 72 Sears 12hp Tractor Glenmoore, Pennsylvania

11-04-2007, 08:29 AM	#3
duallyjams Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Deale Md Posts: 4,663	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I've only seen divorced transfer case on pre 1967 trucks (1960-1966) __________________ James 63 GMC V6 4speed carryall 65 chevy swb bbw V8 auto 68 K20 327/4 speed, buddy buckets 2002 GMC CC Dually Duramax 64 GMC lwb 3/4 V6 4speed SOLD 66 GMC swb bbw buddy buckets SOLD IG duallyjams The only thing that stays the same is constant change!

11-04-2007, 09:26 AM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I don`t think it`ll be a NP205 if it`s GM.It could be from a Ford or Dodge,though,if it`s a NP205.They can be used on our trucks.They are desireable for their versatility but not really bringing any more money than any other unit.I`d get it for it`s rarity.It would allow using 2wd tranmissions and give a better front d-shaft angle on a lifted truck. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-04-2007, 09:37 AM	#5
OLDCHEV4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Chester County PA, USA Posts: 1,228	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I just sold a NP205 from a 76 Ford f250, divorced, driverside drop, $100. But ive never saw one on a 67 and up chevy. __________________ 72 k/10 short wideside 72 k/5 Blazer 72 K/5 Blazer - obstacle course racer 72 custom/10 8' bed 70 K/5 Blazer 67 C-30 GMC Flat bed 86 GMC K2500 Plow Truck 85 GMC K3500 84 M1008 85 M1008 77 G30 Motor Home 72 Sears 12hp Tractor Glenmoore, Pennsylvania

11-04-2007, 09:46 AM	#6
DirtyLarry Windy Corner of a Dirty Street Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pueblo West, Colorado Posts: 2,926	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question Factory K30’s did not exist until 1977. Any K30 prior to then was a conversion by a GM upfitter hence, the divorced tcase. __________________ Current vehicle collection: 1978 Chevrolet K10, 8.1L, NV4500, NP205 1989 Chevrolet Suburban, 8.1L, NV4500, NP241 1993 Chevrolet C1500 Sportside, TBI 7.4L, 4L60E 2001 Chevrolet K2500HD, Ext Cab, SWB, 8.1L, ZF 6 speed 2014 Chevrolet Impala LTZ 3.6L Vortec 8.1L because life is too short to tolerate underpowered vehicles Instagram

11-04-2007, 03:42 PM	#7
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question It would make sense that if you found one of the uber-uncommon Napco trucks, it might have a divorced 205. But it wouldn't be worth any more than a Dodge or IH version. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

11-04-2007, 04:15 PM	#8
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question Ok, thanks for the info guys. I haven't seen it yet, but plan on buying it. They seem to be getting harder to find. Imagine that, like everything else! LOL

11-04-2007, 05:55 PM	#9
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question Im using a dodge one in my burb. I like how I can use any trans I want with out having to hunt down adaptors to make it work. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb

11-04-2007, 09:49 PM	#10
Old Chevy Mech Keepin it runnin! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Deep River, CT Posts: 1,036	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question Ok, newbie question..what is a "divorced" transfer case? LOL Frank __________________ 1970 K-5 4X4 Blazer 1970 K-20 4X4 Long Bed "Liberty Means Responsibility, that is why most men dread it"

11-04-2007, 10:49 PM	#11
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,469	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question There is a K30 in a yard where I am, can't think of what year it is, but it has a div. case and it's not a 205. Rockwell or something like that. They aren't really worth much inless someone is restoring one and looking for period correct stuff. A div. case is a transfer that isn't attached the tranny. With this setup, you can use any tranny you want. Also 2wd tranny's can be cheaper and easier to find. __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 4” SAS 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 6" SAS

11-05-2007, 08:56 AM	#13
Old Chevy Mech Keepin it runnin! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Deep River, CT Posts: 1,036	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I see, so a setup that has that adapter housing that couples the two and serves as the rear trans mount is not considered as divorced, correct? Frank __________________ 1970 K-5 4X4 Blazer 1970 K-20 4X4 Long Bed "Liberty Means Responsibility, that is why most men dread it"

11-05-2007, 09:25 AM	#14
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question That`s married. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-05-2007, 11:59 AM	#16
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I'm going with the divorced 205 for the win! One...in '69 there was no NP205s on any GM truck.They were Rockwell T221s. Two..Rockwells were divorced transfer cases in the first era of factory GM 4wds (60-66).I've heard that a few 67s may have still had a divorced t-case behind the SM420 but after that until GM switched to the NP205,the Rockwell t-case was married to the SM465,or a SM420 (in 67s) tranny. I've never seen a GM with a divorced NP205 transfer case..If there is one in a GM 4wd,it's probably a Dodge NP205...I wonder why a GM tranny would want to be divorced from a Dodge transfer case? Guess it doesn't like Dodges.... Last edited by 1969k10stepside; 11-05-2007 at 12:04 PM.

11-05-2007, 01:41 PM	#18
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I said truck,not blazer I've seen one '69 K20 that had a NP205,it was probably a late '69 model year and had a 70 drivetrain since they started using 205s in 70.



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11-05-2007, 11:39 PM	#19
duallyjams Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Deale Md Posts: 4,663	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question When you have a divorced transfer case you have to align up the drive shaft between the trans and transfer case and the the transfer case and rear or it will vibrate drive at normal high way speed. Pros and cons to everything. __________________ James 63 GMC V6 4speed carryall 65 chevy swb bbw V8 auto 68 K20 327/4 speed, buddy buckets 2002 GMC CC Dually Duramax 64 GMC lwb 3/4 V6 4speed SOLD 66 GMC swb bbw buddy buckets SOLD IG duallyjams The only thing that stays the same is constant change!

11-06-2007, 07:23 AM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question Blazers are trucks,just not pickup trucks.Like a van is a truck,just not a pickup.Were there automatic`69 Blazers?I just figured all 4wds were manual up until`70 which is when and why the NP205 came in. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-06-2007, 10:02 PM	#22
67-72williso Junk/Daily Driver Club Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Manheim, PA 17545 Posts: 253	Re: 1969 K20, K30 Transfer case question I saw a GMC Jimmy at the junk yard today that had a SM-465 with a Dana 20 tranfer case. I think it might have been a 69 or 70, what a weird transfer case shifter. Willis __________________ Daily Driver: 1970 C-20 400 sbc,sm-465,Dana 61 one ton SRW rear, 3.07 gears, locker. There are three kinds of people: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who have no idea what happened!

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