What state has the worst rust??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

kxnomore · 12-02-2007, 12:11 AM

Hey guys,
I've been thinking of shipping out our trucks from sunny California. I stopped by the local pick and pull today and saw 3 completely rust free trucks heading to the crusher.

A 67 long bed, 70 4 wheel drive and a C-20. Broke my heart seeing our trucks turned into Hyundai's.

Which of our great states has the worst rust and would appreciate a shipment of some solid metal???

samwise68 · 12-02-2007, 12:25 AM

any midwest state, i would say. the salt on the winter roads do a number on sheetmetal.

like Wisconsin. i'd like some nice, fresh, clean, straight, rustfree sheetmetal! yup!

haha

-Sam.

Cookie · 12-02-2007, 01:59 AM

yeah north dakota is wonderful for it to hell i hate driving any of my vehicles in the winter here

**67 cst swb** · 12-02-2007, 02:22 AM

My guess would be from Minnesota and East...
Although here in the Dakota's we do have rust, it's nothing like what Minnesota or Wisconsin gets... and I've heard the farther East you go around the Great Lakes and into Pennsylvania and New York it gets worse...
I've never been on the East side of the Mississippi River, so I could be all wrong. I have just heard this from a guy locally that sells antique project cars/trucks (pre-60's stuff) and he says most of his stuff goes to these area's.

DURRTY · 12-02-2007, 03:11 AM

UTAH utah salts the roads with no remorse

webfoot · 12-02-2007, 03:43 AM

We use gravel - better for metal but worse for windshields!

**fine69** · 12-02-2007, 03:44 AM

Ohio is horrible. New York and Pennsylvania also.
Ohio is so bad, Rust is NOT an option. It is STANDARD equipment on each vehicle.

1bad chevy · 12-02-2007, 05:33 AM

vermont all they use is salt

jb4short · 12-02-2007, 06:48 AM

Maine.....no comparison.

va_tlc · 12-02-2007, 06:56 AM

RUST? thats the stuff that holds most virginias trucks toghther aint it. iv seen em so bad you gotta get a tetinous shot before you get in them

Tink · 12-02-2007, 07:11 AM

You think VA trucks are bad?? I moved to VA from NY and these were two of my beaters that I drove in NY:

mrein3 · 12-02-2007, 07:28 AM

The worst rust is where the most people are. The reason roads get salted is that if you have 1,000,000 people commuting to a metro area and it is slippery, you have tons of accidents. Most people are east of the Mississippi, not including the left coast.

In less populated areas salt is used to keep the sand in the sanding truck from freezing. Have you ever seen the beach or a sand box below the freezing point? All the moisture in the sand binds it up. This then couldn't be spread where you want it.

You'll probably need a GOOD friend on the other side. Talk with a pal you have out east of the Mississippi somewhere then try to solve how to ship the stuff.

You should be able to make a few bucks.

c10addict · 12-02-2007, 07:53 AM

Pennsylvania is HORRIBLE!!! See here in Pittsburgh our winters use to be ALOT worse than they are now... BUT now the guys in the salt trucks spread the same amount of product no matter what!! You know its bad when after the first two or three small snows its all over the news that the state road department is running out of salt! 1 inch of snow... two inches of salt!

Luvlegs · 12-02-2007, 08:35 AM

Spent 35+ years on the canadian border in NY - I'm suprised the dealers didn't just cut the floor boards out and trim the edge off all the wheel wells before they sold the cars... that way, you could see what they would look like by the next spring. If you removed the sheet tin or plywood, most vehicles up there were flintstone mobiles!

49m · 12-02-2007, 08:40 AM

ky

67ChevyRedneck · 12-02-2007, 08:49 AM

NY and PA!!!!

68gmsee · 12-02-2007, 09:29 AM

Cities in Gulf coast states also have a lot of rust. I've seen cars in Corpus Chrisiti rust as you watch them (almost). The salt spray from the coast and from what I hear, night dew and fog from the ocean, contribute to it. And this is year round not just in winter.

My brother in law had a nice 2 door Chevy II SS on his driveway that he "was going to fix up" and wouldn't sell it. Everytime I went to visit, it was eaten up more than the last time. I saw it rust up until he had to sell it for scrap...

chipflyer · 12-02-2007, 10:08 AM

They rust bad here in Kansas.

lukecp · 12-02-2007, 10:29 AM

Missouri was pretty bad when I lived there due to salt. Texas is MUCH better, although stuff still does rust out, but nowhere near as much as it did in MO. One of my friends just bought a '79 F*rd F-100, and the whole truck only has 2 rusts spots on it, above the driprails...everywhere else is sold. If it was a MO truck the floors would be gone, along with the wheelwells, and who knows what else..

Ole Blue 68 · 12-02-2007, 10:30 AM

I'm from PA so I know it's pretty bad there but I would say Jersey is the worst, especially along the shore. They get a double whammy. Salt air from the water and salt on the roads in the winter time.

You could always spot a Jersey car when I was a kid. It was the one with half fenders and rust rings on the roof and hood.

Houston's pretty bad too though. I've gotta be careful with my tools out in the garage. Must be the humidity.

Fletcher6371 · 12-02-2007, 10:41 AM

My vote is for Missouri. Seems when it snows here the state shuts the highways down until there is only salt, no roads. My 71 has all new sheet-metal now, so she doesn't ever see snow, let alone salt. Seems to be a summer truck. yeah yeah I know i baby my truck, but after 6 years of restoration, I think I'm going to not put her in harms way, if possible. LOL, my '88 chevy and my '92 Pontiac Grand Prix are total rust buckets. Yeah i think rusting to old Prix is a lot better than my '71 C-10!!!!!!!!!!

streetstar · 12-02-2007, 11:04 AM

I'll throw a hat in the ring for Indiana too

72freak · 12-02-2007, 12:30 PM

I have seen a lot of trucks from all over the country. N.E. and the mid West normally win the prize. However............the worst body rust I have ever seen on a 67-72 was on a 1968 long bed I bought for the running gear. I came from Monteagle Tn. and spent its whole life there. Ther is not 1 good piece of metal left on it!!!!!

Its still in the back yard rusting........soon to go to the crusher!!!!

Old Chevy Mech · 12-02-2007, 01:22 PM

I grew up in PA and joined the navy to see..............RUST everywhere! here in CT they use salt like in PA, combined with the humidity, fog, Its pretty bad! My Blazer frame is "shedding" truck DNA all the time.

If we could find a cheap way of getting those trucks east, we could use them all!

Frank

Longhorn Man · 12-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Where I work, we used to rebuild P/30 trucks for Frito Lay (PepsiCo) and we got them in from all over the US into our shop.
The absolute worst of the worst that we saw was Illinois, Indiana, New york, Ohio, then PA.
People from virginial and kentucky and tn claim to have it bad, but they need to take a road trip to the great lakes area. They'll cry.
There is a company that has been doing the south west trucks to the midwest, and they've been at it for at least 9 years. I came across www.rustfreeclassics.com back in '99. They seem high priced untill you figure in the service they provide... they can save you a bunch of money back here in the rust belt.
It would be rough to start off with. You'd need a someone back east to sell them, a way to advertise, and the web is about the only way to do it. Just opening a lot in a city bragging about old rustfree stuff wouldn't work... it'd flop in less than a year.

12-02-2007, 12:11 AM	#1
kxnomore Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 331	What state has the worst rust??? Hey guys, I've been thinking of shipping out our trucks from sunny California. I stopped by the local pick and pull today and saw 3 completely rust free trucks heading to the crusher. A 67 long bed, 70 4 wheel drive and a C-20. Broke my heart seeing our trucks turned into Hyundai's. Which of our great states has the worst rust and would appreciate a shipment of some solid metal???

12-02-2007, 01:59 AM	#3
Cookie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dickinson North dakota Posts: 66	Re: What state has the worst rust??? yeah north dakota is wonderful for it to hell i hate driving any of my vehicles in the winter here __________________ http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...101/img110.jpgMy 98 Trans Am Ls1 6speed trans am's new motorhttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/jeath101/067.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/jeath101/018.jpg 1986 gmc jimmy 350/sm465 with 33's 1983 Chevrolet K20 SM465 6.2 diesel with 305,000 miles,gm8 turbo, 4:11s and 14ff

12-02-2007, 02:22 AM	#4
67 cst swb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,281	Re: What state has the worst rust??? My guess would be from Minnesota and East... Although here in the Dakota's we do have rust, it's nothing like what Minnesota or Wisconsin gets... and I've heard the farther East you go around the Great Lakes and into Pennsylvania and New York it gets worse... I've never been on the East side of the Mississippi River, so I could be all wrong. I have just heard this from a guy locally that sells antique project cars/trucks (pre-60's stuff) and he says most of his stuff goes to these area's. __________________ My Trucks: 1967 Chevrolet Short Wide Box 327 TH350 9" w/3.90 gears paint will be White - Current Project 1967 Chevrolet Custom LWB 283 TH400 3.73 Posi, no-AC, no-PS, no-PB, bench-seat, small-window - mostly orig driver 1967 Chevrolet CST LWB originally a 327 TH400 3.73 Posi AC PS PB, had Buddy Buckets, Small Window - parts truck 1967 Chevrolet CST LWB, 283 MT 3.73 had Buddy Buckets, Panoramic Window - parts truck 2001 Chevrolet 3500 2WD Crew Cab Dually 8.1L Allison White

12-02-2007, 03:11 AM	#5
DURRTY USMC Join Date: May 2007 Location: SLc,UT Posts: 300	Re: What state has the worst rust??? UTAH utah salts the roads with no remorse __________________ Semper Fi

12-02-2007, 03:43 AM	#6
webfoot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hermiston, OR Posts: 947	Re: What state has the worst rust??? We use gravel - better for metal but worse for windshields! __________________ *Running in place gets you nowhere fast.* -me 1968 GTO 4-spd covnvertible 1970 K-20 4-speed, factory AC.

12-02-2007, 03:44 AM	#7
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Ohio is horrible. New York and Pennsylvania also. Ohio is so bad, Rust is NOT an option. It is STANDARD equipment on each vehicle. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

12-02-2007, 05:33 AM	#8
1bad chevy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: POWNAL VERMONT Posts: 343	Re: What state has the worst rust??? vermont all they use is salt __________________ 1972 c-20 chevy 500 caddy/4.10posi / 1972 3/4 ton gmc 350 4x4/4.10posi front&rear

12-02-2007, 06:48 AM	#9
jb4short Damn Yankee Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 2,261	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Maine.....no comparison.

12-02-2007, 06:56 AM	#10
va_tlc Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: VIRGINIA Posts: 905	Re: What state has the worst rust??? RUST? thats the stuff that holds most virginias trucks toghther aint it. iv seen em so bad you gotta get a tetinous shot before you get in them __________________ 1969 rs 1966fastback 1969swbc/10 2006gt 1972swb4x4

12-02-2007, 07:11 AM	#11
Tink Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: VA Posts: 1,337	Re: What state has the worst rust??? You think VA trucks are bad?? I moved to VA from NY and these were two of my beaters that I drove in NY: __________________ 69 Chevy C10 88 Sierra 02 2500 Suburban And too many S10s to list!

12-02-2007, 07:28 AM	#12
mrein3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Center City, MN, USA Posts: 3,254	Re: What state has the worst rust??? The worst rust is where the most people are. The reason roads get salted is that if you have 1,000,000 people commuting to a metro area and it is slippery, you have tons of accidents. Most people are east of the Mississippi, not including the left coast. In less populated areas salt is used to keep the sand in the sanding truck from freezing. Have you ever seen the beach or a sand box below the freezing point? All the moisture in the sand binds it up. This then couldn't be spread where you want it. You'll probably need a GOOD friend on the other side. Talk with a pal you have out east of the Mississippi somewhere then try to solve how to ship the stuff. You should be able to make a few bucks. __________________ '70 cab, '71 chassis, 383, TH350, NP205. '71 Malibu convertible '72 Malibu hard top Center City, MN

12-02-2007, 07:53 AM	#13
c10addict Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,970	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Pennsylvania is HORRIBLE!!! See here in Pittsburgh our winters use to be ALOT worse than they are now... BUT now the guys in the salt trucks spread the same amount of product no matter what!! You know its bad when after the first two or three small snows its all over the news that the state road department is running out of salt! 1 inch of snow... two inches of salt! __________________ 68 C10 Shorty TPI,Bagged, and all the good stuff. Classic trucks feature June 06, On the cover of Jegs Christmas Catalog 08 67 C10 Shorty Shop truck project Bagged and Z'd under destruction and getting nowhere fast. 64 C10 Shop Truck/Daily driver, Bagged, Dropmember, SOLD!!!! Gone but not forgotten.. 54 GMC under the knife getting a S10 chassis swap and bagged. See my build thread... 07 GMC Sierra 5/7 drop, 22's and 24's Air ride on my mind.. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=339340 See pics of my trucks in my profile

12-02-2007, 08:35 AM	#14
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Spent 35+ years on the canadian border in NY - I'm suprised the dealers didn't just cut the floor boards out and trim the edge off all the wheel wells before they sold the cars... that way, you could see what they would look like by the next spring. If you removed the sheet tin or plywood, most vehicles up there were flintstone mobiles! __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

12-02-2007, 08:40 AM	#15
49m Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Turners Station,Ky Posts: 842	Re: What state has the worst rust??? ky __________________ My Rides 1969 Mustang gt coupe 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 1986 Iroc camaro 1986 K10 Short Bed 1987 Iroc Camaro 1990 rs Camaro 1992 350 ss truck 1998 Honda Civic 2005 Ram 2500 Cummins My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=279831

12-02-2007, 08:49 AM	#16
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12-02-2007, 09:29 AM	#17
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Cities in Gulf coast states also have a lot of rust. I've seen cars in Corpus Chrisiti rust as you watch them (almost). The salt spray from the coast and from what I hear, night dew and fog from the ocean, contribute to it. And this is year round not just in winter. My brother in law had a nice 2 door Chevy II SS on his driveway that he "was going to fix up" and wouldn't sell it. Everytime I went to visit, it was eaten up more than the last time. I saw it rust up until he had to sell it for scrap...

12-02-2007, 10:08 AM	#18
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: What state has the worst rust??? They rust bad here in Kansas. __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

12-02-2007, 10:29 AM	#19
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Missouri was pretty bad when I lived there due to salt. Texas is MUCH better, although stuff still does rust out, but nowhere near as much as it did in MO. One of my friends just bought a '79 Frd F-100, and the whole truck only has 2 rusts spots on it, above the driprails...everywhere else is sold. If it was a MO truck the floors would be gone, along with the wheelwells, and who knows what else.. __________________ '72 Chevy C10* Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

12-02-2007, 10:30 AM	#20
Ole Blue 68 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 1,140	Re: What state has the worst rust??? I'm from PA so I know it's pretty bad there but I would say Jersey is the worst, especially along the shore. They get a double whammy. Salt air from the water and salt on the roads in the winter time. You could always spot a Jersey car when I was a kid. It was the one with half fenders and rust rings on the roof and hood. Houston's pretty bad too though. I've gotta be careful with my tools out in the garage. Must be the humidity. Last edited by Ole Blue 68; 12-02-2007 at 10:35 AM.

12-02-2007, 10:41 AM	#21
Fletcher6371 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: O'Fallon Missouri Posts: 11	Re: What state has the worst rust??? My vote is for Missouri. Seems when it snows here the state shuts the highways down until there is only salt, no roads. My 71 has all new sheet-metal now, so she doesn't ever see snow, let alone salt. Seems to be a summer truck. yeah yeah I know i baby my truck, but after 6 years of restoration, I think I'm going to not put her in harms way, if possible. LOL, my '88 chevy and my '92 Pontiac Grand Prix are total rust buckets. Yeah i think rusting to old Prix is a lot better than my '71 C-10!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Yeah I'm 19 and yeah it's mine. I've been working on it for 5 years almost done.... can see the light...... almost there..................... Last edited by Fletcher6371; 12-02-2007 at 10:42 AM.

12-02-2007, 11:04 AM	#22
streetstar Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Moore, Oklahoma Posts: 2,396	Re: What state has the worst rust??? I'll throw a hat in the ring for Indiana too

12-02-2007, 12:30 PM	#23
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: What state has the worst rust??? I have seen a lot of trucks from all over the country. N.E. and the mid West normally win the prize. However............the worst body rust I have ever seen on a 67-72 was on a 1968 long bed I bought for the running gear. I came from Monteagle Tn. and spent its whole life there. Ther is not 1 good piece of metal left on it!!!!! Its still in the back yard rusting........soon to go to the crusher!!!! __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

12-02-2007, 01:22 PM	#24
Old Chevy Mech Keepin it runnin! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Deep River, CT Posts: 1,036	Re: What state has the worst rust??? I grew up in PA and joined the navy to see..............RUST everywhere! here in CT they use salt like in PA, combined with the humidity, fog, Its pretty bad! My Blazer frame is "shedding" truck DNA all the time. If we could find a cheap way of getting those trucks east, we could use them all! Frank __________________ 1970 K-5 4X4 Blazer 1970 K-20 4X4 Long Bed "Liberty Means Responsibility, that is why most men dread it"

12-02-2007, 03:21 PM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: What state has the worst rust??? Where I work, we used to rebuild P/30 trucks for Frito Lay (PepsiCo) and we got them in from all over the US into our shop. The absolute worst of the worst that we saw was Illinois, Indiana, New york, Ohio, then PA. People from virginial and kentucky and tn claim to have it bad, but they need to take a road trip to the great lakes area. They'll cry. There is a company that has been doing the south west trucks to the midwest, and they've been at it for at least 9 years. I came across www.rustfreeclassics.com back in '99. They seem high priced untill you figure in the service they provide... they can save you a bunch of money back here in the rust belt. It would be rough to start off with. You'd need a someone back east to sell them, a way to advertise, and the web is about the only way to do it. Just opening a lot in a city bragging about old rustfree stuff wouldn't work... it'd flop in less than a year.

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