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kqql · 01-30-2008, 12:01 AM

Hello, I'm new to this site but have been building since the late 60's. I'm stuck on power steering mounting for my 71 shortbed. I used the engine out of a 1972 suburban (350) took the pump off while redoing the engine and cannot figure out how to mount it. It's the late model pump,I think there was a change mid year and cannot find any info or pictures. I might be missing a bracket. Is ther anyone that can help with some info,hopefully pictures. The pump is used from 73 on up. Thanks

sneakysnake · 01-30-2008, 12:06 AM

Here is a stock mount

kqql · 01-30-2008, 12:09 AM

Thanks,I have the later pump.

sneakysnake · 01-30-2008, 12:13 AM

73+

kqql · 01-30-2008, 12:15 AM

Thank You

Jim_PA · 01-30-2008, 12:23 AM

here's a real-world pic. I was told mine came from somewhere in the 70's, and I'm not sure it's 100% correct, but anyway...

kqql · 01-30-2008, 12:24 AM

Now where does the alt. Mount? I have way to many brackets lying around

65 on 24's · 01-30-2008, 07:14 AM

ok i got a Q then. my 65 has been swap over to power steerin but my bracket dont look anything like them mine bolts to the block and then you unbolt the pump to tightin the belt. what year is it off of

65 on 24's · 01-30-2008, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneakysnake

73+

not like this one

jay6891 · 01-30-2008, 07:40 AM

65 on 24's, that would be the top pic that was posted. 72 and older. If you look at the diagram you can "see" where the pump would mount and the adjustment bolts are at the rear of the reservoir top with a slot, bottom as a pivot.

65 on 24's · 01-30-2008, 11:47 AM

mine dont look like them ill put pic up

kqql · 02-01-2008, 01:05 AM

I hope someone out there has a 1972 suburban with the later power steering pump and the 350 engine. I took this engine apart about 4 years ago and am just getting back to putting it back in my 71 shortbed. I cannot figure out the left side mounting for the p/s pump and alt. The brackets I have I cannot for the life of me figure out how they go. It's driving me nuts and I've been building since the late 60's. If I mount the power stering the alt won't fit and if I mount the alt the power sreering wont fit. I know all od f the a/c mounts on the r/s of the engone

kqql · 02-01-2008, 01:07 AM

I hope someone out there has a 1972 suburban with the later power steering pump and the 350 engine. I took this engine apart about 4 years ago and am just getting back to putting it back in my 71 shortbed. I cannot figure out the left side mounting for the p/s pump and alt. The brackets I have I cannot for the life of me figure out how they go. It's driving me nuts and I've been building since the late 60's. If I mount the power stering the alt won't fit and if I mount the alt the power sreering wont fit. I know all of the a/c mounts on the r/s of the engine

ryan913 · 02-01-2008, 01:22 AM

Can you post a picture of your brackets? Does it have a short or a long water pump? You said it was a later pump which one would assume it was a long pump. I am also assuming you have drilled heads.

kqql · 02-01-2008, 01:29 AM

It's the short pump and yes There are 3 holes in the head. I am new to this board and am going to try to post a picture

**Classic Heartbeat** · 02-01-2008, 01:31 AM

The two different diagrams shown in this thread are #1 is for a short water pump. A short water pump was used in all of the Trucks, Suburbans, Blazers, and Panels from 1967 to 1972. If the engine that you took out of your 72 Suburban has the #2 style pump and bracket, it is a transplant from either a Chevy car or 73 and lator Pickup, Suburban, or Blazer. It is a pump and brackets for the long water pump. The alternator sets on the passinger side of the moter with that style power steering pump. I will take a picture in a bit to show you how everything goes. WES

ryan913 · 02-01-2008, 01:38 AM

I think I have the same style you have. Does your pump also use the bracket that bolts to the motor mount? Unlike the the first illustration posted.

kqql · 02-01-2008, 01:45 AM

How would I post a picture or where do i go to learn. I have the pictures

ryan913 · 02-01-2008, 01:51 AM

Can you send them to me at jo386001@ohio.edu? Thanks.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 02-01-2008, 01:52 AM

When you reply to a thread, scroll down to where the additional options box is. There you will find the manage attachments button. Click on it and it will bring up another box that have browse buttons on it. Click the browse buttons, select your picture from your computer and when done click the upload button. If your pictures are small enough, they will upload onto this site and all you will have to do from there is to click the submit reply button. If they are too large you will have to shrink them and try all over again. WES

kqql · 02-01-2008, 01:59 AM

Here are some pics

**Classic Heartbeat** · 02-01-2008, 02:06 AM

Looks like you have a short water pump and are trying to use the power steering pump and brackets for a long water pump to me. WES

kqql · 02-01-2008, 02:18 AM

The pump I took off is a short pump I have the old one and all of the pulleys I have line up to the short pump. Does that make sense???

ryan913 · 02-01-2008, 02:19 AM

Yep! The power steering bracket is for the long water pump.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 02-01-2008, 02:29 AM

You are using the short style water pump alternator brackets, and the long style water pump power steering pump and brackets. They will not work together. The power steering pump gets in the way of the belt for the alternator. You need to find the short style water pump, power steering pump and brackets. WES

01-30-2008, 12:09 AM	#3
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering Thanks,I have the later pump.

01-30-2008, 12:13 AM	#4
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: Power Steering 73+ Attached Images

01-30-2008, 12:15 AM	#5
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering Thank You

01-30-2008, 12:23 AM	#6
Jim_PA Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: PA Posts: 2,696	Re: Power Steering here's a real-world pic. I was told mine came from somewhere in the 70's, and I'm not sure it's 100% correct, but anyway...

01-30-2008, 12:24 AM	#7
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering Now where does the alt. Mount? I have way to many brackets lying around

01-30-2008, 12:01 AM	#1
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Power Steering Hello, I'm new to this site but have been building since the late 60's. I'm stuck on power steering mounting for my 71 shortbed. I used the engine out of a 1972 suburban (350) took the pump off while redoing the engine and cannot figure out how to mount it. It's the late model pump,I think there was a change mid year and cannot find any info or pictures. I might be missing a bracket. Is ther anyone that can help with some info,hopefully pictures. The pump is used from 73 on up. Thanks

01-30-2008, 12:06 AM	#2
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: Power Steering Here is a stock mount Attached Images

01-30-2008, 07:14 AM	#8
65 on 24's Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: memphis tn, (nutbush) Posts: 160	Re: Power Steering ok i got a Q then. my 65 has been swap over to power steerin but my bracket dont look anything like them mine bolts to the block and then you unbolt the pump to tightin the belt. what year is it off of __________________ ridin big yo 5in cpp lowerin springs in back lowered 3in in front with cut springs for now 5 lug swap and disk in front 5 lug and disk in the rear with 3.23 gears mild 350/400heads 7547weiand intake 600 Edelbrock chrome block hugger headers 2 1/2 pipes in to a x pipes super 40 flows and turn downs turbo 350 with shift kit

01-30-2008, 07:40 AM	#10
jay6891 Car Knocker Join Date: May 2001 Location: jefferson,arkansas Posts: 664	Re: Power Steering 65 on 24's, that would be the top pic that was posted. 72 and older. If you look at the diagram you can "see" where the pump would mount and the adjustment bolts are at the rear of the reservoir top with a slot, bottom as a pivot. __________________ 68 c-10,91 sportside bed,350 .030 over,4 bolt,10-1 comp,2.05 intake/1.94 exhaust,1.6 Harland Sharp roller rockers,edelbrock rpm cam and intake w/750 carb, 700r4, 3.73 gears,Jacabbs Electronic Igntion w/Accel HEI distributer and super coil. ZR-1 roll pan, filled tailights. Blazer tank. Hidden hitch. 2 1/2" Flowmaster 40's. Parts bought but not installed>> ford 9" posi with disc. CCP front and rear lowering kit 4/5. Cab corners,foor boards,rockers, cab braces, Phatom grill, Painless wiring kit.

01-30-2008, 11:47 AM	#11
65 on 24's Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: memphis tn, (nutbush) Posts: 160	Re: Power Steering mine dont look like them ill put pic up __________________ ridin big yo 5in cpp lowerin springs in back lowered 3in in front with cut springs for now 5 lug swap and disk in front 5 lug and disk in the rear with 3.23 gears mild 350/400heads 7547weiand intake 600 Edelbrock chrome block hugger headers 2 1/2 pipes in to a x pipes super 40 flows and turn downs turbo 350 with shift kit

02-01-2008, 01:05 AM	#12
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering & alt. Mount I hope someone out there has a 1972 suburban with the later power steering pump and the 350 engine. I took this engine apart about 4 years ago and am just getting back to putting it back in my 71 shortbed. I cannot figure out the left side mounting for the p/s pump and alt. The brackets I have I cannot for the life of me figure out how they go. It's driving me nuts and I've been building since the late 60's. If I mount the power stering the alt won't fit and if I mount the alt the power sreering wont fit. I know all od f the a/c mounts on the r/s of the engone

02-01-2008, 01:07 AM	#13
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering & alt. Mount I hope someone out there has a 1972 suburban with the later power steering pump and the 350 engine. I took this engine apart about 4 years ago and am just getting back to putting it back in my 71 shortbed. I cannot figure out the left side mounting for the p/s pump and alt. The brackets I have I cannot for the life of me figure out how they go. It's driving me nuts and I've been building since the late 60's. If I mount the power stering the alt won't fit and if I mount the alt the power sreering wont fit. I know all of the a/c mounts on the r/s of the engine

02-01-2008, 01:22 AM	#14
ryan913 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: kenton, oh Posts: 183	Re: Power Steering Can you post a picture of your brackets? Does it have a short or a long water pump? You said it was a later pump which one would assume it was a long pump. I am also assuming you have drilled heads.

02-01-2008, 01:29 AM	#15
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering It's the short pump and yes There are 3 holes in the head. I am new to this board and am going to try to post a picture

02-01-2008, 01:31 AM	#16
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Power Steering The two different diagrams shown in this thread are #1 is for a short water pump. A short water pump was used in all of the Trucks, Suburbans, Blazers, and Panels from 1967 to 1972. If the engine that you took out of your 72 Suburban has the #2 style pump and bracket, it is a transplant from either a Chevy car or 73 and lator Pickup, Suburban, or Blazer. It is a pump and brackets for the long water pump. The alternator sets on the passinger side of the moter with that style power steering pump. I will take a picture in a bit to show you how everything goes. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys



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02-01-2008, 01:38 AM	#17
ryan913 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: kenton, oh Posts: 183	Re: Power Steering I think I have the same style you have. Does your pump also use the bracket that bolts to the motor mount? Unlike the the first illustration posted. Last edited by ryan913; 02-01-2008 at 01:52 AM.

02-01-2008, 01:45 AM	#18
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering How would I post a picture or where do i go to learn. I have the pictures

02-01-2008, 01:51 AM	#19
ryan913 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: kenton, oh Posts: 183	Re: Power Steering Can you send them to me at jo386001@ohio.edu? Thanks.

02-01-2008, 01:52 AM	#20
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Power Steering When you reply to a thread, scroll down to where the additional options box is. There you will find the manage attachments button. Click on it and it will bring up another box that have browse buttons on it. Click the browse buttons, select your picture from your computer and when done click the upload button. If your pictures are small enough, they will upload onto this site and all you will have to do from there is to click the submit reply button. If they are too large you will have to shrink them and try all over again. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

02-01-2008, 01:59 AM	#21
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering Here are some pics Attached Images

02-01-2008, 02:06 AM	#22
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Power Steering Looks like you have a short water pump and are trying to use the power steering pump and brackets for a long water pump to me. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

02-01-2008, 02:18 AM	#23
kqql Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Palmer Lake,CO Posts: 15	Re: Power Steering The pump I took off is a short pump I have the old one and all of the pulleys I have line up to the short pump. Does that make sense???

02-01-2008, 02:19 AM	#24
ryan913 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: kenton, oh Posts: 183	Re: Power Steering Yep! The power steering bracket is for the long water pump. Last edited by ryan913; 02-01-2008 at 02:20 AM.

02-01-2008, 02:29 AM	#25
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Power Steering You are using the short style water pump alternator brackets, and the long style water pump power steering pump and brackets. They will not work together. The power steering pump gets in the way of the belt for the alternator. You need to find the short style water pump, power steering pump and brackets. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

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