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teeitup · 03-16-2008, 06:00 AM

I've never had this happen before BUT I cannot get the 205 knob off my shifter in the truck. I've used the rubber mit you use in the kitchen to take off lids off jars, I used a strap wrench, I PB Blastered it still it won't budge. I've got a blister from trying to turn it so many time with my hand. I don't want to tear it up because its in good shape. ANY IDEAS??? Thanks Randy

BLAZERMAN · 03-16-2008, 06:12 AM

You use a rubber mit to loosen jar lids!!!

You might try tapping it around the edges with a rubber mallet..other than that some cocentrated heat just below the threads on the shaft of the shifter. Good luck, I've never had one that tight before.

eightbanger · 03-16-2008, 06:17 AM

What a big girl you are

seriously try squirting some WD40 and leaving it to seap in, and beleave it or not try tightening to break the seal that has obviously developed...it does work.

Botietruck · 03-16-2008, 06:18 AM

What about using a blow dryer or heat gun to heat the knob. It might take a while to get it heated all the way through. Once it's heated good spray PB Blaster on the threaded part and let it cool. While it's still hot/warm, take a brass hammer or something that will not damage the metal and tap on the metal shift handle. Just my .02. Good luck!

krazy_texan · 03-16-2008, 06:35 AM

i say wrap it up real good in a rag and then put a pipe wrench on it

prg machine · 03-16-2008, 06:35 AM

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odog · 03-16-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by eightbanger

What a big girl you are

seriously try squirting some WD40 and leaving it to seap in, and beleave it or not try tightening to break the seal that has obviously developed...it does work.

I agree, Try tightening it, A seal does develope and it sounds wierd, but tightening it just a touch breaks that seal and it should then turn off.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-16-2008, 06:53 AM

There should be a lock nut on the bottom side of the knob that you have to turn clockwise first before trying to loosen the knob. If you have done this, then hot air gun would be your next option. WES

**special-K** · 03-16-2008, 06:54 AM

This is a trap,right?All the stuff you`ve undone and you`re seeking our advise how to get a knob off?

**88JRFAN** · 03-16-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

This is a trap,right?All the stuff you`ve undone and you`re seeking our advise how to get a knob off?

TIM GOT YA ON THAT ONE!

WES HAS GOT ANSWER.

prg machine · 03-16-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by prg machine

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chipflyer · 03-16-2008, 07:44 AM

Randy,
I know you already have the jam nut loose, I am guessing that if it won't budge with the strap wrench, its because someone has used lock tight on it. If that is the case (and they used red) you won't get it loose unless its heated no matter how much or what kind of penetrating oil you squirt on it. . You could do 1 of 2 things, make a heat shield from a piece of tin to protect the knob with a 1/2 slot cut in it and use your torch to carefully warm the shifter just below the knob. Heat rises, that may work.
Option 2, since you want to remove the knob to install the carpet, remove the shift handle from underneath, that will make the carpet install pretty easy and you wont damage that nice knob.
Just a couple ideas

Jeff

prg machine · 03-16-2008, 08:29 AM

Heat has got to work eventualy................then squirt it good..............and good luck...................We have removed stuck exhaust bolts this way..............certainly that knob should come loose!!!

prg machine · 03-16-2008, 08:30 AM

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teeitup · 03-16-2008, 08:50 AM

Some of you guys are to funny!!!

I've tried tightening it, I've had the lock nut loose from the start, I've tried all my rubber stuff

. I tried PBBLASTER, I guess I'll have to try heat. I'm changing it to a chrome shifter, and I have the black shifter sold without the knob. Thanks for the ideas guys. I'll work on it Sunday hopefully. Randy

dan42 · 03-16-2008, 09:59 AM

It's bizarre how the littlest things can trip you up when you're doing stuff to your truck. They are potentially the most frustrating at times. But that's part of the reason we work on them, I guess, for the satisfaction of getting past those things succesfully.

nyncompute · 03-16-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by teeitup

Some of you guys are to funny!!!

I've tried tightening it, I've had the lock nut loose from the start, I've tried all my rubber stuff

. I tried PBBLASTER, I guess I'll have to try heat. I'm changing it to a chrome shifter, and I have the black shifter sold without the knob. Thanks for the ideas guys. I'll work on it Sunday hopefully. Randy

Randy, when you're done forcing it tightening it, gripping it greasing it and burning it..... for a change I don't want to buy it!

**Ridgeback** · 03-16-2008, 10:47 AM

I bought a 465/205 combination several weeks ago from a fellow who had parted a 71 K20. He said he got tired of the shifter knobs "squirming around" all the time so a year or two before he stopped running the truck he epoxied the threads and solved the problem. Could be the PO of your transfer case did the same.

jeffspower · 03-16-2008, 08:56 PM

If it's not going to come off without boogering it up... the knob is valuable... the shifter isn't... I'd cut the shifter off as close to the knob as possible. Weld a nut to the end of the stub, let it cool just a bit, then hit it with a 3/8" impact & it should spin out. If you catch it at just the right time when the heat has soaked into the threads, it will help break the rust &/ or locktite loose.

Question- I have an '80 chrome 205 shifter I want to put my '72 knob on. I'm thinking the threaded stub is bigger on the chrome shifter?

**lolife99** · 03-16-2008, 09:22 PM

Someone probably used loctite on it. The "high strength" stuff require a torch or heat to remove. Always use the "medium strength" on something you might want to take apart.

03-16-2008, 06:00 AM	#1
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! I've never had this happen before BUT I cannot get the 205 knob off my shifter in the truck. I've used the rubber mit you use in the kitchen to take off lids off jars, I used a strap wrench, I PB Blastered it still it won't budge. I've got a blister from trying to turn it so many time with my hand. I don't want to tear it up because its in good shape. ANY IDEAS??? Thanks Randy __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

03-16-2008, 06:12 AM	#2
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! You use a rubber mit to loosen jar lids!!! You might try tapping it around the edges with a rubber mallet..other than that some cocentrated heat just below the threads on the shaft of the shifter. Good luck, I've never had one that tight before. __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-16-2008, 06:17 AM	#3
eightbanger 454 MAKES IT ROAR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, U.K Posts: 2,701	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! What a big girl you are seriously try squirting some WD40 and leaving it to seap in, and beleave it or not try tightening to break the seal that has obviously developed...it does work. __________________ Nigel. An American living in a British body. 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson No more pain. 03.12.60 -- 12.28.10 http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger

03-16-2008, 06:18 AM	#4
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! What about using a blow dryer or heat gun to heat the knob. It might take a while to get it heated all the way through. Once it's heated good spray PB Blaster on the threaded part and let it cool. While it's still hot/warm, take a brass hammer or something that will not damage the metal and tap on the metal shift handle. Just my .02. Good luck! __________________ STILL PLAYS WITH CARS...AND TRUCKS!! Parents! Be good to your kids...they get to choose your nursing home! 250 I-6 with a 3 speed Saginaw and Borg Warner Overdrive...She's got overdrive!

03-16-2008, 06:35 AM	#5
krazy_texan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Des Moines, Ia Posts: 3,233	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! i say wrap it up real good in a rag and then put a pipe wrench on it __________________ Krazy Texan My Trucks are made with Wrenches not Chop Sticks 1967 GMC 3/4 ton "Johnny Cash" 1990 v1500 suburban 1967 Ford f100 Swb 4x4 "green bean" GOD BLESS JESUS, JOHN WAYNE, AND THE ALAMO

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03-16-2008, 06:53 AM	#8
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03-16-2008, 06:54 AM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,858	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! This is a trap,right?All the stuff you`ve undone and you`re seeking our advise how to get a knob off? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-16-2008, 07:44 AM	#12
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! Randy, I know you already have the jam nut loose, I am guessing that if it won't budge with the strap wrench, its because someone has used lock tight on it. If that is the case (and they used red) you won't get it loose unless its heated no matter how much or what kind of penetrating oil you squirt on it. . You could do 1 of 2 things, make a heat shield from a piece of tin to protect the knob with a 1/2 slot cut in it and use your torch to carefully warm the shifter just below the knob. Heat rises, that may work. Option 2, since you want to remove the knob to install the carpet, remove the shift handle from underneath, that will make the carpet install pretty easy and you wont damage that nice knob. Just a couple ideas Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

03-16-2008, 08:29 AM	#13
prg machine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 1,069	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! Heat has got to work eventualy................then squirt it good..............and good luck...................We have removed stuck exhaust bolts this way..............certainly that knob should come loose!!! __________________ 69 K-20 cloned to a 67 with front clip and some other stuff. 383 .040 over Crane roller cam lifters and rockers ,1.6 intake ratio, Open chamber heads, 9.5-1 compression ratio, 2.02 intake valves , Edelbrock performer Air Gap manifold Carter AFB performer 750cfm, MSD ignition, SM465 NP205 4.10 gears:

03-16-2008, 08:30 AM	#14
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03-16-2008, 08:50 AM	#15
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! Some of you guys are to funny!!! I've tried tightening it, I've had the lock nut loose from the start, I've tried all my rubber stuff. I tried PBBLASTER, I guess I'll have to try heat. I'm changing it to a chrome shifter, and I have the black shifter sold without the knob. Thanks for the ideas guys. I'll work on it Sunday hopefully. Randy __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

03-16-2008, 09:59 AM	#16
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! It's bizarre how the littlest things can trip you up when you're doing stuff to your truck. They are potentially the most frustrating at times. But that's part of the reason we work on them, I guess, for the satisfaction of getting past those things succesfully. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

03-16-2008, 10:47 AM	#18
Ridgeback Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 809	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! I bought a 465/205 combination several weeks ago from a fellow who had parted a 71 K20. He said he got tired of the shifter knobs "squirming around" all the time so a year or two before he stopped running the truck he epoxied the threads and solved the problem. Could be the PO of your transfer case did the same.

03-16-2008, 08:56 PM	#19
jeffspower Well, Whoop-dee-do! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Easton, Mo. pop.- me & scarcely a few others Posts: 2,302	Re: OK ole WISE ONES, QUESTION!!! If it's not going to come off without boogering it up... the knob is valuable... the shifter isn't... I'd cut the shifter off as close to the knob as possible. Weld a nut to the end of the stub, let it cool just a bit, then hit it with a 3/8" impact & it should spin out. If you catch it at just the right time when the heat has soaked into the threads, it will help break the rust &/ or locktite loose. Question- I have an '80 chrome 205 shifter I want to put my '72 knob on. I'm thinking the threaded stub is bigger on the chrome shifter? __________________ '68 GMC shortbox 4x4 350/SM465/T221- bought it in '83 SOLD '72 K20 500 Cad/TH400/NP205 SOLD '92 Chevy 2500 6.5 mech TD 4L80E crusty daily driver '72 Monte Carlo... sweet low mile toy '11 Dodge Challenger IE 392 6spd... midlife car



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03-16-2008, 09:22 PM	#20
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