Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

72BlckButy · 04-17-2008, 04:51 AM

Okay guys... I've cleaned up the factory bench I picked up from Teeitup, and now I need to mount it in the truck. The PO (x2) installed a late model F### seat in the truck, and drilled two new holes, which is about to be removed. I still have the original floor board in the truck so it still has the correct mounting locations.

While looking in an LMC catalogue, their picture displays using the same bolts to mount the seat to the floor, as well as the brackets to the seat. Is this correct? Does the floor mounts have threads? Or do I need a bolt that will be long enough to accomodate a washer and nut? If anyone has one of their catalogues it's on pg 48 in the second block marked bench seat components.

Also, both seat brackets work great, but I'm missing the connect "rod" between the two, it's supposed to allow the seat to move forward and backward. Where do I find one of these, or what can I use to make this feature functional?

I know you guys like pictures... but I will have them up in a few days.

Thanks in advance!
Nate

72BlckButy · 04-18-2008, 01:41 AM

ttt....

420am · 04-18-2008, 01:54 AM

They should be threaded, yes. The rod is just a cable I believe.

tcb-1 · 04-18-2008, 02:58 AM

Nate,
The same bolt that is used to mount the seat to the floor is the same bolt that attaches the bracket to the seat frame.

I used the battery retainer bracket bolts from Classic Industries. Why? Because they are approx. 1/4" longer than they are the correct size, have a intergal washer, and are black oxide coated. For that matter, I picked up several dozen of those bolts and were able to use them throughout the truck...

you got to give us some picks of that seat!! I was telling your father in law that with a little Armour All, that seat would be well worth the big bucks you paid for it! you dog!

that was a nice seat, good score, my man!!

72BlckButy · 04-18-2008, 04:26 AM

Thanks for the info guys! I will look into the bolts from CPP to see what they run. I still can't fathom the reason why the PO (x2) installed the seat he did, because every thing else on the truck, aside from the exterior mirrors, is correct.

Does anyone have a shot of the cable/rod that extends between the two seat supports to all the seat to move? I can't quite picture what needs to be there.

By the way ask and you shall receive...

All I was able to accomplish earlier this week was cleaning/painting the seat supports, cleaning the bottom/back of the vinyl. More pics will follow with the finished product as soon as I can get back on it...

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72BlckButy · 04-18-2008, 04:31 AM

Two shots of my helpers....

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The Ol' girl anticipating the new seat...

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72BlckButy · 04-18-2008, 04:40 AM

After: (just the back half finished) Look at that SHINE!!! I decided not to paint the bracket mounts on the seat at this time. Mainly because I plan on replacing the vinyl in the future, but until then I'm sticking with the original cover, and I didn't want to accidently paint the cover.

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**LockDoc** · 04-18-2008, 04:53 AM

Nate,

I know there are a couple of threads on the seat adjuster rod. I found this one but it doesn't show much. I have a seat out and I can take a couple of pictures tomorrow.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=seat+adjuster

LockDoc

72BlckButy · 04-18-2008, 05:25 AM

Thanks LockDoc! The picture showed what the cable looked like, but if you could take a couple of pics of your seat that would be great!

Sammy · 04-18-2008, 07:29 AM

Every seat I have seen the adjuster cable mech. are screwbared. Poor design etc etc. I just set the seat to fit me wired the darn thing to prevent movement. And yes the mount bolts are 9/16 body type bolts.

72BlckButy · 04-18-2008, 01:58 PM

Thanks for the info Sammy!

Does anyone have a resolution for the cable adjuster? I'd like to try as much as possible to have the seat functional.

**LockDoc** · 04-18-2008, 03:48 PM

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I will just include all of the different ones I have.

The first set of pictures is of the 67 seat adjuster... Sorry for the dirt..

LockDoc

**LockDoc** · 04-18-2008, 03:51 PM

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Second set is of the '69.

LockDoc

**LockDoc** · 04-18-2008, 03:52 PM

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Third set is of the '72.

The red arrow shows where the wire goes through the hog ring.

LockDoc

72BlckButy · 04-19-2008, 03:46 PM

Thanks for the pics LockDoc!

Wow... it looks like as the trucks became newer, their ideas for the seat adjustment became older...

From a rod to a wire.

I'm not sure what I'm going to use to make this functional... anyone know of a replacement rod?

Chevyholic · 04-19-2008, 04:05 PM

Both the seats I have use the cable, however one was attached via the hog ring and another using an 'S' bracket. I prefer the 'S' bracket because it is easier to adjust the tension of the cable. Of course, it is also easier for it to come loose. Then there's the fact that I'm 6'2" and never move the seat in the first place.

Funny, I just did this exact same job last weekend. I would have taken pictures had I thought anybody would be interested in them. I guess I'll take pictures of all my work from here on out.

David

**LockDoc** · 04-19-2008, 04:42 PM

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I was just given a pickup yesterday with the top cut off. I haven't brought it home yet but it's only a half mile from me. The seat doesn't have any upholstery on it and I don't know what it has for an adjuster but I will check if it quits raining.... I would think they would all interchange between years.

LockDoc

Chevyholic · 04-19-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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I was just given a pickup yesterday with the top cut off. I haven't brought it home yet but it's only a half mile from me. The seat doesn't have any upholstery on it and I don't know what it has for an adjuster but I will check if it quits raining.... I would think they would all interchange between years.

LockDoc

LockDoc, the seat I swapped out of my truck was from a 60-66 truck. The brackets mounted up, but had a different elevation, so the PO shimmed the front with little blocks of wood to make the seat level. Seat mount plates were the same too. The problem with the shim job on the 60-66 seats are that it puts the seat up about 3-4" over stock, so every time I hit a bump my head would hit the ceiling.

All of the other mechanical functions of the seats were the same, as far as the slider was concerned.

**LockDoc** · 04-19-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevyholic

LockDoc, the seat I swapped out of my truck was from a 60-66 truck. The brackets mounted up, but had a different elevation, so the PO shimmed the front with little blocks of wood to make the seat level. Seat mount plates were the same too. The problem with the shim job on the 60-66 seats are that it puts the seat up about 3-4" over stock, so every time I hit a bump my head would hit the ceiling.

All of the other mechanical functions of the seats were the same, as far as the slider was concerned.

Thanks Chevyholic. That's kind of what I thought. Probably up to '72 anyway...

LockDoc

72BlckButy · 04-19-2008, 09:16 PM

Leon, if you would mind checking out the seat in your new treasure, I might be interested in taking that off your hands if you would like. Keep me posted with what you find out.

**LockDoc** · 04-19-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Leon, if you would mind checking out the seat in your new treasure, I might be interested in taking that off your hands if you would like. Keep me posted with what you find out.

I'll keep you posted. It's still raining cats & dogs here.... I think I'm going to have to sell one of my trucks and buy a boat...

LockDoc

72BlckButy · 04-21-2008, 04:38 AM

So did you buy that boat yet?

**LockDoc** · 04-21-2008, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

So did you buy that boat yet?

No, but I went over and checked the junker truck out and it looks like all of the adjustment hardware is there for the seat. If you are interested in it I will see if I can get it off in the next couple of days.

LockDoc

72BlckButy · 04-22-2008, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

No, but I went over and checked the junker truck out and it looks like all of the adjustment hardware is there for the seat. If you are interested in it I will see if I can get it off in the next couple of days.

LockDoc

LockDoc, is it the bar, or the cable? I'm wondering what it would run to ship the bar since it is so long.

**LockDoc** · 04-22-2008, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

LockDoc, is it the bar, or the cable? I'm wondering what it would run to ship the bar since it is so long.

I needed the carb off of the truck so I went over and took the stuff off today.
Unfortunately it is the bar and it is 44" long. I will do some checking on the shipping.

LockDoc

04-17-2008, 04:51 AM	#1
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Okay guys... I've cleaned up the factory bench I picked up from Teeitup, and now I need to mount it in the truck. The PO (x2) installed a late model F### seat in the truck, and drilled two new holes, which is about to be removed. I still have the original floor board in the truck so it still has the correct mounting locations. While looking in an LMC catalogue, their picture displays using the same bolts to mount the seat to the floor, as well as the brackets to the seat. Is this correct? Does the floor mounts have threads? Or do I need a bolt that will be long enough to accomodate a washer and nut? If anyone has one of their catalogues it's on pg 48 in the second block marked bench seat components. Also, both seat brackets work great, but I'm missing the connect "rod" between the two, it's supposed to allow the seat to move forward and backward. Where do I find one of these, or what can I use to make this feature functional? I know you guys like pictures... but I will have them up in a few days. Thanks in advance! Nate __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

04-18-2008, 01:41 AM	#2
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? ttt.... __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

04-18-2008, 01:54 AM	#3
420am Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 357	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? They should be threaded, yes. The rod is just a cable I believe. __________________ 1972 Long Bed Cheyenne Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=285282 Waste my bandwidth and listen to some great tunes >> http://www.radioxenu.com (Live Shows with yours truly every Friday)

04-18-2008, 02:58 AM	#4
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Nate, The same bolt that is used to mount the seat to the floor is the same bolt that attaches the bracket to the seat frame. I used the battery retainer bracket bolts from Classic Industries. Why? Because they are approx. 1/4" longer than they are the correct size, have a intergal washer, and are black oxide coated. For that matter, I picked up several dozen of those bolts and were able to use them throughout the truck... you got to give us some picks of that seat!! I was telling your father in law that with a little Armour All, that seat would be well worth the big bucks you paid for it! you dog! that was a nice seat, good score, my man!! __________________ Doug THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten". The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

04-18-2008, 04:26 AM	#5
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Thanks for the info guys! I will look into the bolts from CPP to see what they run. I still can't fathom the reason why the PO (x2) installed the seat he did, because every thing else on the truck, aside from the exterior mirrors, is correct. Does anyone have a shot of the cable/rod that extends between the two seat supports to all the seat to move? I can't quite picture what needs to be there. By the way ask and you shall receive... All I was able to accomplish earlier this week was cleaning/painting the seat supports, cleaning the bottom/back of the vinyl. More pics will follow with the finished product as soon as I can get back on it... Before: A shot of the factory build tag: __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

04-18-2008, 04:31 AM	#6
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Two shots of my helpers.... The Ol' girl anticipating the new seat... __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

04-18-2008, 04:40 AM	#7
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? After: (just the back half finished) Look at that SHINE!!! I decided not to paint the bracket mounts on the seat at this time. Mainly because I plan on replacing the vinyl in the future, but until then I'm sticking with the original cover, and I didn't want to accidently paint the cover. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 04-18-2008 at 04:40 AM.

04-18-2008, 04:53 AM	#8
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,402	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Nate, I know there are a couple of threads on the seat adjuster rod. I found this one but it doesn't show much. I have a seat out and I can take a couple of pictures tomorrow. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=seat+adjuster LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

04-18-2008, 05:25 AM	#9
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Thanks LockDoc! The picture showed what the cable looked like, but if you could take a couple of pics of your seat that would be great! __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

04-18-2008, 07:29 AM	#10
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Every seat I have seen the adjuster cable mech. are screwbared. Poor design etc etc. I just set the seat to fit me wired the darn thing to prevent movement. And yes the mount bolts are 9/16 body type bolts. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

04-18-2008, 01:58 PM	#11
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Thanks for the info Sammy! Does anyone have a resolution for the cable adjuster? I'd like to try as much as possible to have the seat functional. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 04-18-2008 at 01:58 PM.

04-18-2008, 03:48 PM	#12
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,402	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? - I will just include all of the different ones I have. The first set of pictures is of the 67 seat adjuster... Sorry for the dirt.. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

04-18-2008, 03:51 PM	#13
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,402	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? - Second set is of the '69. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

04-18-2008, 03:52 PM	#14
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,402	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? - Third set is of the '72. The red arrow shows where the wire goes through the hog ring. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 04-18-2008 at 03:54 PM.

04-19-2008, 03:46 PM	#15
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Thanks for the pics LockDoc! Wow... it looks like as the trucks became newer, their ideas for the seat adjustment became older... From a rod to a wire. I'm not sure what I'm going to use to make this functional... anyone know of a replacement rod? __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)



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04-19-2008, 04:05 PM	#16
Chevyholic Will it run today? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 272	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Both the seats I have use the cable, however one was attached via the hog ring and another using an 'S' bracket. I prefer the 'S' bracket because it is easier to adjust the tension of the cable. Of course, it is also easier for it to come loose. Then there's the fact that I'm 6'2" and never move the seat in the first place. Funny, I just did this exact same job last weekend. I would have taken pictures had I thought anybody would be interested in them. I guess I'll take pictures of all my work from here on out. David __________________ Jaws, the 1971 Chevy Cheyenne Longbed. She's big, grey, and has an insatiable appetite!

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LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,402	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? - I was just given a pickup yesterday with the top cut off. I haven't brought it home yet but it's only a half mile from me. The seat doesn't have any upholstery on it and I don't know what it has for an adjuster but I will check if it quits raining.... I would think they would all interchange between years. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

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72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? Leon, if you would mind checking out the seat in your new treasure, I might be interested in taking that off your hands if you would like. Keep me posted with what you find out. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

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72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Bench Seat Mounting/Adjustment Questions??? So did you buy that boat yet? __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

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