Why do the call it Painless??????? HELP ME PLEASE

[jugernot]

I hope that someone there can give me some help.

I have a rebuilt orginal tilt steering column that I bought from ECE. At the end of the turn signal switch wiring there is a cresent or half moon shapped connector.

In the Painless manual says "The Wire Harness Kit has included two different
female connectors to mate with the column-mounted plug" (manual # 10204 page 9 diagram 7.5 http://www.painlessperformance.com/I...ch/manuals.php )

These two female connectors are flat and there is no way they will connect with the half moon shaped connector on the column.

I have attached a picture that kind of shows the connector on the column.

Please help.

[Rollie396]

I know my kit (pt#10206 I believe) didn't come with that particular plug,but I understood that none of them did.That was 3 yrs ago though so it may have changed.
Do you still have the old harness kicking around?If so,you can salvage the plug and install it on your new harness.If not,I have one here that I'd give you.

[TonyJohnson]

I just picked up a new turn signal switch at NAPA and it came with a flat connector and an adapter cable that was a flat connector on one end and the curved stock connector on the other. It was pricey at $58, but would get you going...

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by Rollie396

I know my kit (pt#10206 I believe) didn't come with that particular plug,but I understood that none of them did.That was 3 yrs ago though so it may have changed.
Do you still have the old harness kicking around?If so,you can salvage the plug and install it on your new harness.If not,I have one here that I'd give you.

Oh yes please, i'll take it. I think at this point being able to reference the OEM harness will help out alot. Do you have any pictures of your hook up?

Originally Posted by TonyJohnson

I just picked up a new turn signal switch at NAPA and it came with a flat connector and an adapter cable that was a flat connector on one end and the curved stock connector on the other. It was pricey at $58, but would get you going...

From what I have learned the adapter you have is so you can convert the late model switch to connect to the original curved stock connector. I have not found a connector that will take an oem style connector to a late model harness.

I looked in the painless manual for 67-72 trucks and they indicate;

The original steering column, 9 port, half moon, female plastic housing for the
turn signals is no longer available from GM. We have terminated the wires for
the turn signals with the correct terminals and color codes so that your original
plastic housing, of the main harness, may be reused.
To remove the old terminals from your plastic housing, insert a paper clip or an
extra small screwdriver into the small slot at the top of the opening opposite of
where the wire is inserted and this will release the tang holding the wire in place.
Pull the wire and it should release from the housing.

[Rollie396]

Sorry it took a bit...I realize now that my garage needs a serious cleaning cuz it took me this long to get to the harness

I should mention that this is a '72 harness,and I'm not entirely sure that they are the same.If it's what you need then it's yours.

here are the pics,let me know if you need a different angle or anything.

[AustinScott]

Originally Posted by jugernot

I looked in the painless manual for 67-72 trucks and they indicate;

The original steering column, 9 port, half moon, female plastic housing for the
turn signals is no longer available from GM. We have terminated the wires for
the turn signals with the correct terminals and color codes so that your original
plastic housing, of the main harness, may be reused.
To remove the old terminals from your plastic housing, insert a paper clip or an
extra small screwdriver into the small slot at the top of the opening opposite of
where the wire is inserted and this will release the tang holding the wire in place.
Pull the wire and it should release from the housing.

Sound like they supply you with a new flat style connector, & all you have to do is release the locking leg of each wire & remove the "metal socket" from the plastic "moon" shaped shell, then you can slide the metal pins into the newly supplied flat style plastic connector & you are good.

MAKE SENCE?

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by Rollie396

Sorry it took a bit...I realize now that my garage needs a serious cleaning cuz it took me this long to get to the harness

I should mention that this is a '72 harness,and I'm not entirely sure that they are the same.If it's what you need then it's yours.

here are the pics,let me know if you need a different angle or anything.

Thats the one I need. I sent you a PM. Let me know, my zip is 94947. Thanks

Originally Posted by AustinScott

Sound like they supply you with a new flat style connector, & all you have to do is release the locking leg of each wire & remove the "metal socket" from the plastic "moon" shaped shell, then you can slide the metal pins into the newly supplied flat style plastic connector & you are good.

MAKE SENCE?

Thats what my wife and I thought, but I think they are say to remove the pins from the connector in the under dash harness, not the steering column connector.

[msgross]

I have an adapter that I took off a van with my tilt... let me see if I can find it... If so then how's $20 to you door?

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by msgross

I have an adapter that I took off a van with my tilt... let me see if I can find it... If so then how's $20 to you door?

Can you post a picture of it. Thanks

[msgross]

looks like the adapter is opposite of what you might need. You could connect the ends with what I have in the pic and make your own. This one went from a flat blade column to a curved truck harnass. You can have the two outside pieces for the price of shipping if you want, wire them and voila you have an apadter. Saves someone from cutting a harnass.

[KevsClassics]

Hey Jugernot, How you been I can make you a correct adaptor for your app. How do you like the quality of that tilt? Hope you like it.

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by KevsClassics

Hey Jugernot, How you been I can make you a correct adaptor for your app. How do you like the quality of that tilt? Hope you like it.

I didn't see you or your truck at the last Goodguys show or are my eyes catching up with my age. I think I will try to splice in an OEM female connector to my ECE tilt, but will let you know if that does not work out.

As for the ECE column it looks great, like brand new. I have not installed it yet. I did not want to have to many things in the way while I completed the wiring. I will try to work on the dash/gauges tonight and hopefully have everything for the interior wiring button up soon.

['70_402]

if you read carefully it tells you that you have to take the connectors out of your old half moon shaped steering column harness connetor... it's not to hard with a paper clip and small screwdriver... that's what i did on my painless harness... worked great...

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by 70'_402

if you read carefully it tells you that you have to take the connectors out of your old half moon shaped steering column harness connetor... it's not to hard with a paper clip and small screwdriver... that's what i did on my painless harness... worked great...

I have found that Painless directions can be a little confusing, at least for me. What I understood from their instructions was that the female half moon shaped connector was not reproduced and that I was to take that part from the MAIN HARNESS ( which I think means the OEM under dash harness) and reuse it to connect to the male connector on the steering column.

Which makes sense to me because Painless only included one side of the flat connector. I unfortunately did not keep my OEM harness to salvage this an other connectors from. I'm glab that everyone is showing interest in this thread, because I hope it will help someone else out in the future.

[Brad]

Subscribed.
Yep, it'll help me as I'll be doing this in the near future. Thanks.

[red71cheyenne]

You can also get the flat to curved connector adapter at most parts stores. Removing the wires from the connector is easy though. Just take your time. All of the wiring is the same for 67-72 on the harness. Unless you have an idiot light dash. There's an FAQ on GMCPauls website for converting from idiot light to guage dash. Jeff.

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by red71cheyenne

You can also get the flat to curved connector adapter at most parts stores. Removing the wires from the connector is easy though. Just take your time. All of the wiring is the same for 67-72 on the harness. Unless you have an idiot light dash. There's an FAQ on GMCPauls website for converting from idiot light to guage dash. Jeff.

How and what did you use to remove the terminals from the connector?

[Putter]

They make a special little tool, but I always just took a precision screwdriver (sanded down thinner if needed) and used that to press the little tab down.

[gcburdic]

subscribed....thanks this will help me too in the future!!!