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SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 03:25 AM

Hey guys, im new to this part of the forum. Have been cruisin the 60-66 and 67-72 forums for my duration here. Yesterday i trade/bought a 78 Silverado 10 short step. Its got a 350 sbc with and i think a th 400, its an auto with 1 2 D the overdrive, so i assume turbo400, but not sure. Its got dual tanks, crusie sontrol, and wipers with the spray on the arms. Also has a billet grille and ralley wheels. This will be my daily driver for the summer and on, and it needs virually no work. ITs rust free and bondo free, and the only thing it really needs are new window seals so no water will eat it up. Have fun...

BRAD

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 03:26 AM

couple more...

bigblock73 · 04-30-2008, 03:57 AM

Nice truck!! However, unless someone did some major updating...that isn't a '78...but an 80's truck.

85lt1 · 04-30-2008, 03:59 AM

ah very very nice so r u goin leave it stock

gchemist · 04-30-2008, 04:01 AM

84 and later at that too!!
Post the VIN number.

Very nice truck. I think he ment to post 87!! TBI under the air cleaner!

85lt1 · 04-30-2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblock73

Nice truck!! However, unless someone did some major updating...that isn't a '78...but an 80's truck.

ha i just caught that he probly just fliped the numbers

f.monroe · 04-30-2008, 04:33 AM

Centerbolt valve covers and what appears to be a throttle body . Looks like you did great and picked up a fuel injected 87 . Nice truck . Frank

SBTork · 04-30-2008, 06:12 AM

the valve covers and air cleaner give it away, but the relay on the firewall confirm it, it has to be an '87. You've got a really nice daily driver and caught one hell of a deal too, way to go

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 06:52 AM

Vin is 1GCDR14K5HF361662, and idk, i was told it was a 78, but all the stuff on it makes it seem like its not, lol. I was surprised at the cruise control and wiper stuff, and i was confused. Im not reall an engine person, so ill have to take a second look at all the stuff u guys are mentioning, looks like i got an even better truck than i thought. Right on!

BRAD

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 06:54 AM

O and 85lt1, im gonna leave it as is for at least this summer becuase i ogtta work to pay off my debt to my dad for this stuff, but im gonna buy a couple things to replace the worn parts, but thats really it. In the future i hope to do a mild drop, a better exhaust, and new headlights and such...

And thanks for all the responses guys, finally i have a truck that really is nice...

BRAD

f.monroe · 04-30-2008, 07:03 AM

It looks to me like you really got a great deal . Around here 87's are hard to come by in the condition of that one . I am sure that you know but just in case you are wondering why it being an 87 is a big deal , 87 was basically a one year truck . It was the first full production run of the the fuel injection engine and the last production year for the square body truck in half ton form . If you didnt realize it was fuel injected , BIG BONUS . A quick internet check shows an 87 1/2 ton with a 5.7L 350 . Nice find .Frank

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 07:12 AM

Ye i just decoded the vin too, and 87 clearly. I do like the fact that its fuel injected, i just didnt look to hard when i bought it i guess. Normally when i look at fuel injected im lookin at a direct port system, so is this one just fuel injected via carb or elsewhere? Thanks again guys...

BRAD

f.monroe · 04-30-2008, 07:23 AM

No carb , It is TBI (throttle body injection ) . Very responsive and realiable . No need to pump the accelerator on startup or anything . Frank

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 03:07 PM

Yea tahts what i thought, but it seems like u still have to pump it a little. I dont know, im tryin to get the other tank to work (RH) becuase they hadnt used it for a while, and it doesnt seem to be able to get any gas from it so far. I only put about 2 gallons in it. But since its injected, i shouldnt bother pumping the pedal while cranking it cause it doesnt do anything while trying to get that tank to work? And of course the second i switch back it works fine, so i dont know whats up witht he RH tank...

BRAD

bigblock73 · 04-30-2008, 03:10 PM

OK, change your signature now to read 87.

rod86 · 04-30-2008, 03:29 PM

mate you got yourself a nice truck there well done

seanconnery · 04-30-2008, 03:35 PM

Welcome to the boards from Towson, MD. By the way, is that bowtie something factory on the tailgate?

CLASSIC87' · 04-30-2008, 04:21 PM

Very nice truck man... a small drop would really set it off.

Oh and remove the bumper gaurds too

Nice score!
Anthony

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 06:01 PM

Bumper gaurds are gonna be the first thing to come off, and o yea, totally stop chevy emblem sticker on the tailgate, lol. Idk who put it there and why, but its comin off right quick...

And signature changed, lol...

BRAD

84 400 · 04-30-2008, 06:32 PM

Nice truck and welcome from NH to the square bodies.

jchav62 · 04-30-2008, 06:33 PM

Very nice truck! As far as the tranny, if it's an overdrive, I'm thinking it's a 700r4. Very common tranny on 87's...

84 400 · 04-30-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkylineNXS

Bumper gaurds are gonna be the first thing to come off, and o yea, totally stop chevy emblem sticker on the tailgate, lol. Idk who put it there and why, but its comin off right quick...

And signature changed, lol...

BRAD

My guess is for people who cannot read the tailgate???

SkylineNXS · 04-30-2008, 07:20 PM

84, lol, nice, probably tru as well.

Now i got a problem ,cause i cant seem to get the rh tank to work. Any ideas on what could be the culprit. To get to the back of the switch in the cab is rather difficult seeing that i have to remove vents and such from under the dash even to see it. Is there a way i can remove the switch from the front? Also does that switch just control the "junction" box style thing thats right near the tanks? And would there be an common problem witht that or something that i can look for? Thanks again for all the compliments and such...

O and how do i identify if its a 700 r4? Besides being an overdrive?

BRAD

babyJay · 04-30-2008, 07:34 PM

Nice score! Welcome from Central Indiana. Since you're so close, I'll be over tonight to take it for a spin.

Just jokin'....

84 400 · 04-30-2008, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkylineNXS

84, lol, nice, probably tru as well.

Now i got a problem ,cause i cant seem to get the rh tank to work. Any ideas on what could be the culprit. To get to the back of the switch in the cab is rather difficult seeing that i have to remove vents and such from under the dash even to see it. Is there a way i can remove the switch from the front? Also does that switch just control the "junction" box style thing thats right near the tanks? And would there be an common problem witht that or something that i can look for? Thanks again for all the compliments and such...

O and how do i identify if its a 700 r4? Besides being an overdrive?

BRAD

Okay you said it has not been used for a while so I would think it has sentiment in the pick up tube. Could be an number of things tho. First i would check the rubber lines for cracking or splits that could be letting air in and reducing suction. Since it is FI it will have an electric fuel pump. The in cab switch activates a solenoid under the cab that switches between tanks. you should here it when you push the button. If i had to guess my bet would be on a bad sending unit and or a clogged in tank fuel filter but it could just be the switching system. I am by no means an expert but have messed with one or two. I am sure there are members on the board who can give you a better idea of what to check then me.

The tranny is easy.
Just crawl under there and look up at the transmission pan.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/t.aspx?Page=8
or
http://www.chevcarclubvic.org.au/tec...tification.htm

If it is the original OD trans it is a 700R4 no other auto trans with OD was offered in these trucks

Hope this helps some

04-30-2008, 03:25 AM	#1
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Newbie with 87 short step Hey guys, im new to this part of the forum. Have been cruisin the 60-66 and 67-72 forums for my duration here. Yesterday i trade/bought a 78 Silverado 10 short step. Its got a 350 sbc with and i think a th 400, its an auto with 1 2 D the overdrive, so i assume turbo400, but not sure. Its got dual tanks, crusie sontrol, and wipers with the spray on the arms. Also has a billet grille and ralley wheels. This will be my daily driver for the summer and on, and it needs virually no work. ITs rust free and bondo free, and the only thing it really needs are new window seals so no water will eat it up. Have fun... BRAD Attached Images __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 03:26 AM	#2
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step couple more... Attached Images __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 03:57 AM	#3
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,826	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Nice truck!! However, unless someone did some major updating...that isn't a '78...but an 80's truck. __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale Last edited by bigblock73; 04-30-2008 at 03:58 AM.

04-30-2008, 03:59 AM	#4
85lt1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: marshall texas Posts: 37	Re: Newbie with 78 short step ah very very nice so r u goin leave it stock __________________ 85 swb 95 lt1 mid length headers pcm flash lowerd 5/7 03 dodge ram swb 4.7 v8 206 camshafts, underdrive pully, gibson headers, superchips, cia,lowerd 5/7, 3.92 posi. 06 cbr600rr custom paint, pc3,

04-30-2008, 04:01 AM	#5
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Re: Newbie with 78 short step 84 and later at that too!! Post the VIN number. Very nice truck. I think he ment to post 87!! TBI under the air cleaner! __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos Last edited by gchemist; 04-30-2008 at 04:02 AM.

04-30-2008, 04:33 AM	#7
f.monroe Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Caldwell,Tx. Posts: 3,648	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Centerbolt valve covers and what appears to be a throttle body . Looks like you did great and picked up a fuel injected 87 . Nice truck . Frank __________________ Born and proudly residing in a Red State !

04-30-2008, 06:12 AM	#8
SBTork Garage wrench Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaCrosse, WI Posts: 1,855	Re: Newbie with 78 short step the valve covers and air cleaner give it away, but the relay on the firewall confirm it, it has to be an '87. You've got a really nice daily driver and caught one hell of a deal too, way to go __________________ -Adam 90 V1500 GMC Suburban 350/700R4/NP241..... 01 Saturn SL1 stock DD.....

04-30-2008, 06:52 AM	#9
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Vin is 1GCDR14K5HF361662, and idk, i was told it was a 78, but all the stuff on it makes it seem like its not, lol. I was surprised at the cruise control and wiper stuff, and i was confused. Im not reall an engine person, so ill have to take a second look at all the stuff u guys are mentioning, looks like i got an even better truck than i thought. Right on! BRAD __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 06:54 AM	#10
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step O and 85lt1, im gonna leave it as is for at least this summer becuase i ogtta work to pay off my debt to my dad for this stuff, but im gonna buy a couple things to replace the worn parts, but thats really it. In the future i hope to do a mild drop, a better exhaust, and new headlights and such... And thanks for all the responses guys, finally i have a truck that really is nice... BRAD __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 07:03 AM	#11
f.monroe Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Caldwell,Tx. Posts: 3,648	Re: Newbie with 78 short step It looks to me like you really got a great deal . Around here 87's are hard to come by in the condition of that one . I am sure that you know but just in case you are wondering why it being an 87 is a big deal , 87 was basically a one year truck . It was the first full production run of the the fuel injection engine and the last production year for the square body truck in half ton form . If you didnt realize it was fuel injected , BIG BONUS . A quick internet check shows an 87 1/2 ton with a 5.7L 350 . Nice find .Frank __________________ Born and proudly residing in a Red State ! Last edited by f.monroe; 04-30-2008 at 07:10 AM.

04-30-2008, 07:12 AM	#12
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Ye i just decoded the vin too, and 87 clearly. I do like the fact that its fuel injected, i just didnt look to hard when i bought it i guess. Normally when i look at fuel injected im lookin at a direct port system, so is this one just fuel injected via carb or elsewhere? Thanks again guys... BRAD __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 07:23 AM	#13
f.monroe Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Caldwell,Tx. Posts: 3,648	Re: Newbie with 78 short step No carb , It is TBI (throttle body injection ) . Very responsive and realiable . No need to pump the accelerator on startup or anything . Frank __________________ Born and proudly residing in a Red State !

04-30-2008, 03:07 PM	#14
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Yea tahts what i thought, but it seems like u still have to pump it a little. I dont know, im tryin to get the other tank to work (RH) becuase they hadnt used it for a while, and it doesnt seem to be able to get any gas from it so far. I only put about 2 gallons in it. But since its injected, i shouldnt bother pumping the pedal while cranking it cause it doesnt do anything while trying to get that tank to work? And of course the second i switch back it works fine, so i dont know whats up witht he RH tank... BRAD __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 03:10 PM	#15
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,826	Re: Newbie with 78 short step OK, change your signature now to read 87. __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale

04-30-2008, 03:29 PM	#16
rod86 great southern land Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: perth - australia Posts: 6,194	Re: Newbie with 78 short step mate you got yourself a nice truck there well done __________________ rod 86 chevy c10 silverado



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04-30-2008, 03:35 PM	#17
seanconnery Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Towson, MD Posts: 197	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Welcome to the boards from Towson, MD. By the way, is that bowtie something factory on the tailgate?

04-30-2008, 04:21 PM	#18
CLASSIC87' OL BLUU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: WICHITA, KS. Posts: 1,065	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Very nice truck man... a small drop would really set it off. Oh and remove the bumper gaurds too Nice score! Anthony

04-30-2008, 06:01 PM	#19
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Bumper gaurds are gonna be the first thing to come off, and o yea, totally stop chevy emblem sticker on the tailgate, lol. Idk who put it there and why, but its comin off right quick... And signature changed, lol... BRAD __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 06:32 PM	#20
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,745	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Nice truck and welcome from NH to the square bodies. __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

04-30-2008, 06:33 PM	#21
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Very nice truck! As far as the tranny, if it's an overdrive, I'm thinking it's a 700r4. Very common tranny on 87's... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

04-30-2008, 07:20 PM	#23
SkylineNXS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 658	Re: Newbie with 78 short step 84, lol, nice, probably tru as well. Now i got a problem ,cause i cant seem to get the rh tank to work. Any ideas on what could be the culprit. To get to the back of the switch in the cab is rather difficult seeing that i have to remove vents and such from under the dash even to see it. Is there a way i can remove the switch from the front? Also does that switch just control the "junction" box style thing thats right near the tanks? And would there be an common problem witht that or something that i can look for? Thanks again for all the compliments and such... O and how do i identify if its a 700 r4? Besides being an overdrive? BRAD __________________ 2000 GMC Sierra EXT Cab Short 4x4, finally mine... 1966 C10 SWB Fleet, 250 I6, three on the tree.... Previously Owned.... 1987 Chevy R10 "Silverado" (at least the badges were) Short Step 350 700r4.... 1972 Chevy LWB Fleet 350/350 EXTENDED CAB ALL THE WAY! .._..~...-...._...____ .._..-...______\|_\|__\____ ..-..~.\|_(O)__\|_\|__\|_(O)]

04-30-2008, 07:34 PM	#24
babyJay Arrived on a Pale Horse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SnagTown Indiana Posts: 2,524	Re: Newbie with 78 short step Nice score! Welcome from Central Indiana. Since you're so close, I'll be over tonight to take it for a spin. Just jokin'.... __________________ Jason 87 V30 350TBI/400 White w/Boss V-plow 89 R3500 CC SRW

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