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merlin65 · 07-29-2008, 10:11 AM

I got this problem. I am running ram horns on my 283 and cannot find the right altenator bracket. My driver side manifold has the cast in bracket tab but I cannot find a bracket to work on it. I have been pulling out my hair for months. I made one thaty kind of works but I want the right one so I dont have to worry about throwing a belt. I bought one of the low mount brackets for the bottom of the engine, but the altenator does not really line up with the crank pulley. Any ideas or pics? What are you guys with ram horns running for bracketry????

*LILRED66* · 07-29-2008, 10:24 AM

Go to your favorite local auto parts store (FLAPS) and look in their specialty section. Mr. Gasket makes a bracket for the top of the alternator to the water pump and a bottom bracket that attaches to the front of the factory ram horn exhaust manifold. I have this set up on a few of my 4-5-6 Chevy trucks with 283/327 V8 engines and factory ram horn exhaust manifolds and they work great.

I hope this information is helpful and good luck with your project.

ValveTubeHead · 07-29-2008, 10:24 AM

For ref: Here's what the oem lower bracket looks like...not sure if p/s equipt bracketry looks any different. You may note the spacer bushing welded to the business end.

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joe231 · 07-30-2008, 12:12 AM

i'm gonna assume (i know, i know) you have a short water pump
parts A and C i believe is what fits mine(283 swp),
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mine is different than valvetubehead's
here is the LINKY
i can get pics of mine if you need them

*LILRED66* · 07-30-2008, 12:16 AM

Nice job with the photo and explanation Joe! Thanks. Piece D is for headers.

joe231 · 07-30-2008, 12:29 AM

thanks Tony!

what do you know about the style valvetubehead posted, different years???

ValveTubeHead · 07-30-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231

thanks Tony!

what do you know about the style valvetubehead posted, different years???

my brackets were oem for '65 on 283; no p/s or ac

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Originally Posted by merlin65

I bought one of the low mount brackets for the bottom of the engine, but the altenator does not really line up with the crank pulley. Any ideas or pics? What are you guys with ram horns running for bracketry????

Ive since swapped the original 283 for a crate 290hp 350; and opted for a low mount bracket (Mr. Gasket p/n 5179). The upper mount header combo business wasn't doing the trick in my case. Low mount was a perfect match for me.

joe231 · 07-30-2008, 08:50 AM

thanks for the info valvetubehead, i guess you aren't planning on running power steering, huh?

here is a LINKY to a thread with pics of my set up

ValveTubeHead · 07-30-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231

thanks for the info valvetubehead, i guess you aren't planning on running power steering, huh?

nope

Im also a three on the tree hugger and manual drum braker

*LILRED66* · 07-30-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231

thanks Tony!

what do you know about the style valvetubehead posted, different years???

I came across the Mr. Gasket brackets as a result of not having the factory correct alternator brackets. I have since acquired a number of factory set-ups like valvetubehead posted, so I prefer the stock appearance and fitment. For me, it is hard to beat the factory set-up when going "stocker".

joe231 · 07-30-2008, 11:09 AM

my stock bracket looks like the mr gasket, on the manifold, the bolt holes are in a different location than the pic above, they are on the side of the manifold, not the front. I was curious what the different applications are between his style and mine

merlin65 · 07-30-2008, 11:29 AM

Well I feel like an idiot. I fixed my own problem. I was just thinking way to much. Turns out the altenator will just bolt right the hell up to the ram horn front tabs. I thought the two holes on the front of the manifold were for some kind of special long forgotten bracket. But I bolted it to the upper most outboard hole and attached my chrome arm over from the block and was done. Way to dang simple. thanks for the many responses. I will try to post some pictures of what I am talking about......

joe231 · 07-30-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ValveTubeHead

nope

Im also a three on the tree hugger and manual drum braker

how does it stop that crate 350? you got a bit more GO! than WHOA!?

ValveTubeHead · 07-30-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231

how does it stop that crate 350?

Around here it also takes a keen eye, rapid stereotyping and ample planning to make some stops.
We have a v. large population of underqualified motorists inhabiting our thoroughfares.

joe231 · 07-30-2008, 12:01 PM

yeah I bet

MacAttack · 07-30-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ValveTubeHead

Matt - THAT IS OUTSTANDING! Ordering it along with some other stuff from Summit this morning! The C10 won't have any power gear either, so this is a natural.

Thanks,

Mac.

jchav62 · 07-30-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack

Matt - THAT IS OUTSTANDING! Ordering it along with some other stuff from Summit this morning! The C10 won't have any power gear either, so this is a natural.

Thanks,

Mac.

That is a very clean looking set up! If we weren't running P/S in our trucks I would definitely use it.

ValveTubeHead · 07-30-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jchav62

That is a very clean looking set up! If we weren't running P/S in our trucks I would definitely use it.

That was my first impression...very clean. Also, tall valvecover friendly...although I like the shorts.

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Originally Posted by MacAttack

Matt - THAT IS OUTSTANDING! Ordering it along with some other stuff from Summit this morning! The C10 won't have any power gear either, so this is a natural.

Thanks,

Mac.

FYI: Belt is 43.5" =1105mm
eg.Goodyear Gatorback 11AV1105

MacAttack · 07-30-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ValveTubeHead

FYI: Belt is 43.5" =1105mm
eg.Goodyear Gatorback 11AV1105

Dog!!! Thank You!

Mac.

07-29-2008, 10:11 AM	#1
merlin65 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: raleigh, nc Posts: 42	ram horn help!!! I got this problem. I am running ram horns on my 283 and cannot find the right altenator bracket. My driver side manifold has the cast in bracket tab but I cannot find a bracket to work on it. I have been pulling out my hair for months. I made one thaty kind of works but I want the right one so I dont have to worry about throwing a belt. I bought one of the low mount brackets for the bottom of the engine, but the altenator does not really line up with the crank pulley. Any ideas or pics? What are you guys with ram horns running for bracketry????

07-29-2008, 10:24 AM	#2
LILRED66 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 3,906	Re: ram horn help!!! Go to your favorite local auto parts store (FLAPS) and look in their specialty section. Mr. Gasket makes a bracket for the top of the alternator to the water pump and a bottom bracket that attaches to the front of the factory ram horn exhaust manifold. I have this set up on a few of my 4-5-6 Chevy trucks with 283/327 V8 engines and factory ram horn exhaust manifolds and they work great. I hope this information is helpful and good luck with your project.

07-29-2008, 10:24 AM	#3
ValveTubeHead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sf Bay Area - EastBay Posts: 54	Re: ram horn help!!! For ref: Here's what the oem lower bracket looks like...not sure if p/s equipt bracketry looks any different. You may note the spacer bushing welded to the business end. top __________________ Matt '65 LWB Fleetside '63 SWB Fleetside Last edited by ValveTubeHead; 07-29-2008 at 10:28 AM.

07-30-2008, 12:12 AM	#4
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: ram horn help!!! i'm gonna assume (i know, i know) you have a short water pump parts A and C i believe is what fits mine(283 swp), mine is different than valvetubehead's here is the LINKY i can get pics of mine if you need them __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 07-30-2008 at 12:15 AM.

07-30-2008, 12:16 AM	#5
LILRED66 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 3,906	Re: ram horn help!!! Nice job with the photo and explanation Joe! Thanks. Piece D is for headers. Last edited by LILRED66; 07-30-2008 at 12:17 AM.

07-30-2008, 12:29 AM	#6
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: ram horn help!!! thanks Tony! what do you know about the style valvetubehead posted, different years??? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 07-30-2008 at 12:31 AM.

07-30-2008, 08:50 AM	#8
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: ram horn help!!! thanks for the info valvetubehead, i guess you aren't planning on running power steering, huh? here is a LINKY to a thread with pics of my set up __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

07-30-2008, 11:09 AM	#11
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: ram horn help!!! my stock bracket looks like the mr gasket, on the manifold, the bolt holes are in a different location than the pic above, they are on the side of the manifold, not the front. I was curious what the different applications are between his style and mine __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 07-30-2008 at 11:10 AM.

07-30-2008, 11:29 AM	#12
merlin65 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: raleigh, nc Posts: 42	Re: ram horn help!!! Well I feel like an idiot. I fixed my own problem. I was just thinking way to much. Turns out the altenator will just bolt right the hell up to the ram horn front tabs. I thought the two holes on the front of the manifold were for some kind of special long forgotten bracket. But I bolted it to the upper most outboard hole and attached my chrome arm over from the block and was done. Way to dang simple. thanks for the many responses. I will try to post some pictures of what I am talking about......

07-30-2008, 12:01 PM	#15
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: ram horn help!!! yeah I bet __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*



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