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Tim64 · 08-05-2008, 01:39 PM

Hey Guys,

I'm thinking of painting my truck flat black. I'd rather use paint than primer. Should I go rattle-can, or buy the real stuff. What have you guys used. If I go with cans how many would it take to fully cover my SB SS truck? If anyone has pics you could post, and tell me what you used, and if you're happy with it, that would be great.
Thanks,
Tim

GMC65Guy · 08-05-2008, 03:07 PM

I'm going with cans at the moment, If you take your time and do even steady strokes while covering 50% of previous each time then it will turn out well. Mine looks great and barely has any "tiger stripes". Which i can going over later. I'm using Rustolium Automotive Gloss Black. It says gloss but I would compare it to the color that Project Old School looked like if you watch Trucks. I just scuff up the paint, wash off the dust and then mask and go at it. Looks great. Ive done the whole bed and back of the cab and I've used around...8-10 cans.

66chevy PROSTREET · 08-05-2008, 03:59 PM

i went with black paint with a flat clear so it would not leave water spots

ChopperDr · 08-05-2008, 05:06 PM

I used Blitz Black a few times. Cheap paint. Nice sheen. Buy a gallon and spray it on. Rattle cans will be spendy to buy that many. Great bang for the buck with that paint.

Not the best quality product, but cheap. Held up as long as I owned them.

Chopster

bad6772 · 08-05-2008, 05:08 PM

Best and cheapest way i have seen is just adding a flattener to the clear....Although this pretty much means (no Buffing Afterwards ) it looks the best imo.......

GMC65Guy · 08-05-2008, 07:09 PM

A can of automotive rustolium is about 4 bucks.. so its going to be a 200-250 paint job. roughly

MXmaniac · 08-05-2008, 07:41 PM

I would use Hot Rod Flatz. http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/hrf201.aspx . Its a single stage urethane. $150 gets you a gallon of paint, hardener, and reducer. It will look good and hold up well. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

I am going to use their Copper Pearl on my '64.

GMC65Guy · 08-05-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MXmaniac

I would use Hot Rod Flatz. http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/hrf201.aspx . Its a single stage urethane. $150 gets you a gallon of paint, hardener, and reducer. It will look good and hold up well. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

I am going to use their Copper Pearl on my '64.

I would def. go this way if my panels were good to go but being 20 and in college, I can't afford to buy all new panels. I basically need everyting new but the cab so I wasnt worried about having the best paint job, just a quick good enough looking one.

leftcoast66 · 08-05-2008, 08:55 PM

I went w/ black DP90 primer.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 08-05-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MXmaniac

I would use Hot Rod Flatz. http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/hrf201.aspx . Its a single stage urethane. $150 gets you a gallon of paint, hardener, and reducer. It will look good and hold up well. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

I am going to use their Copper Pearl on my '64.

I was thinking of going with their Red Firemist Pearl myself but can't really see the color very well on the net. I also thought about a copper color. I am kinda up in the air about it all. I can get the Red Firemist Pearl kit for $279 and that includes the clear and hardners and all.. The first color is the Red hehe. and the 2nd color is Firemist Copper... And the link to all of the other colors. http://www.tcpglobal.com/restorationshop/rspcolors.aspx

original_balzer · 08-06-2008, 12:14 AM

If you realy take your time rattle cans can look good
BUT only for about a year then it fades and/or wears off.

Its kinda like building a deck out of pine rather than redwood. Its cheap and looks good for a little while. you can usually buy rattle cans by the case and save money.
I did this truck with camo specified rattle cans. Single the cans where $4 each but a case of 6 was only $16. (mind you I bought 4 cases of each color) I layered it on pretty well :1 because it was sanded down to bare metal in aot of places and I wanted protection and :2 because I kept changing the pattern until I liked it.

Its now 2 years old and still looks good because of the nature of camo but has faded too much to touch it up with new cans of the same paint.

Tim64 · 08-06-2008, 04:42 AM

Thanks for all the replies. I saw the Hot Rod Flatz on ebay. Man they have a lot of colors to chose from. I ask them how much I would need and they said a gallon. Seems like a lot. What do you guys think?

Tim64 · 08-06-2008, 07:46 AM

Hey Guys,
I just saw Eastwood Co. sells the same thing as the Hot Rod Flatz for about 50 bucks less. Anyone use their stuff before?

**ChiefRocka** · 08-06-2008, 08:59 AM

I used about 15-20 cans of OSH primer on my bucket....
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Looks ok and washes well. Looks better as time goes on.

Eventually, it'll be painted with Blitz, Hot-rod, and even SEM trim paint.
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Here's some old, faded shots:
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jchav62 · 08-06-2008, 09:10 AM

I did the '83

Silverado I used to have with Rustoleum automotive dark grey primer. It covers really well. If your gonna use primer, rattle cans will work, for paint, get the real stuff. I got my truck done with 6-8 cans, $24-$32

. Here's a pic...

Tim64 · 08-06-2008, 12:37 PM

This might sound stupid, but is there some kind of wax you can use on a flat finish, for protection? My truck is a daily driver as most of you know, and I'm not planning on changing that.

jchav62 · 08-06-2008, 12:44 PM

I believe you can wax a flat paint just like a gloss... same same...

66chevy PROSTREET · 08-06-2008, 12:57 PM

if it has a flat clear on it

GreyDX · 08-06-2008, 01:53 PM

I want to throw in another vote for Hot Rod Flatz. http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/hrf201.aspx .

I used it on a motorcycle two years ago and have been spilling gas on the tank regularly ever since with no damage. No rock chips on the frame either. It was easy to mix and spray with a cheap Harbor Freight sprayer. It worked real well, I'm getting more for my truck.

HotRodYJ · 08-06-2008, 03:45 PM

Tractor Supply Farm Implement paint is really good tough Enamel and it's $21 a gallon. They also sale the harder and reducer for it. I painted a Jeep I had for about $30, the right way just with the cheaper paint and it looked fantastic for the money. They also have a flat black.

salazar44 · 08-06-2008, 04:17 PM

I vote hot rod flatz. thats what i used on my truck.

apachedaddy · 08-06-2008, 09:57 PM

this is a few pics of mine and the title tells it all http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=282701

original_balzer · 08-06-2008, 11:11 PM

my truck is getting hot rod flatz as well and after seeing Salazar44's truck Im sure glad I got it.

As far as waxing Yes you can wax flat paint it will make it satin. At least it did on my 85 jeep cherokee (sorry no pics) I sanded the paint to a haze repaired the rust and my buddy shot it with black primer for me. One day I got a wild hair and waxed it with liquid carnuba wax. I loved the way it looked but you have to wax it weekly.

Tim64 · 08-07-2008, 06:13 AM

Well, it looks like Hot Rod Flatz is the #1 choice. Eastwood Co. makes a Hot Rod Flat too. It must be new as no one said anything about it. Thanks Guys for all of the feed back. I'll post some pics when I get this done.
Thanks,
Tim

I need more than one

maybe that's why I can't get anything done??

**ChiefRocka** · 08-07-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salazar44

I vote hot rod flatz. thats what i used on my truck.

Nice color....Like I said before, when I 're-do' my truck, it's gonna get sprayed with that as well.....Really nice Salazar !

08-05-2008, 03:07 PM	#2
GMC65Guy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stillwater,Oklahoma Posts: 130	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I'm going with cans at the moment, If you take your time and do even steady strokes while covering 50% of previous each time then it will turn out well. Mine looks great and barely has any "tiger stripes". Which i can going over later. I'm using Rustolium Automotive Gloss Black. It says gloss but I would compare it to the color that Project Old School looked like if you watch Trucks. I just scuff up the paint, wash off the dust and then mask and go at it. Looks great. Ive done the whole bed and back of the cab and I've used around...8-10 cans.

08-05-2008, 03:59 PM	#3
66chevy PROSTREET SOLD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poorest state in America(Breaux Bridge,Louisiana) Posts: 370	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint i went with black paint with a flat clear so it would not leave water spots __________________ 1966 CHEVY FLEETSIDE SOLD 11-29-9 TRUCK THREAD- http://http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=301368&page=2

08-05-2008, 05:06 PM	#4
ChopperDr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WA Posts: 189	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I used Blitz Black a few times. Cheap paint. Nice sheen. Buy a gallon and spray it on. Rattle cans will be spendy to buy that many. Great bang for the buck with that paint. Not the best quality product, but cheap. Held up as long as I owned them. Chopster

08-05-2008, 05:08 PM	#5
bad6772 Official Site Guitar Shredder Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oz Posts: 3,955	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint Best and cheapest way i have seen is just adding a flattener to the clear....Although this pretty much means (no Buffing Afterwards ) it looks the best imo.......

08-05-2008, 07:09 PM	#6
GMC65Guy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stillwater,Oklahoma Posts: 130	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint A can of automotive rustolium is about 4 bucks.. so its going to be a 200-250 paint job. roughly

08-05-2008, 01:39 PM	#1
Tim64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vandalia, Ohio Posts: 396	Hot Rod Flat Black Paint Hey Guys, I'm thinking of painting my truck flat black. I'd rather use paint than primer. Should I go rattle-can, or buy the real stuff. What have you guys used. If I go with cans how many would it take to fully cover my SB SS truck? If anyone has pics you could post, and tell me what you used, and if you're happy with it, that would be great. Thanks, Tim

08-05-2008, 07:41 PM	#7
MXmaniac Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 356	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I would use Hot Rod Flatz. http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/hrf201.aspx . Its a single stage urethane. $150 gets you a gallon of paint, hardener, and reducer. It will look good and hold up well. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again. I am going to use their Copper Pearl on my '64. __________________ Andrew '69 C-20(292, 4-speed) Retired Daily Driver '64 C-10(250, 3-speed) Fixerupper '97 F*rd Mustang GT(4.6L, 5-speed) Daily Driver If I only wanted two pedals I'd have bought a bicycle.

08-05-2008, 08:55 PM	#9
leftcoast66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Covington, WA Posts: 770	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I went w/ black DP90 primer.

08-06-2008, 12:14 AM	#11
original_balzer Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: roosevelt utah Posts: 325	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint If you realy take your time rattle cans can look good BUT only for about a year then it fades and/or wears off. Its kinda like building a deck out of pine rather than redwood. Its cheap and looks good for a little while. you can usually buy rattle cans by the case and save money. I did this truck with camo specified rattle cans. Single the cans where $4 each but a case of 6 was only $16. (mind you I bought 4 cases of each color) I layered it on pretty well :1 because it was sanded down to bare metal in aot of places and I wanted protection and :2 because I kept changing the pattern until I liked it. Its now 2 years old and still looks good because of the nature of camo but has faded too much to touch it up with new cans of the same paint. __________________ -61 c10 short step -67 c10 short step -71 k10 long fleet -77 k20 long fleet (gettin all the goodies from frankentruck) -79 c30/k30 3+3 frankentruck (cab and frame for sale) -99 GMC yukon daily driver Last edited by original_balzer; 08-06-2008 at 12:15 AM. Reason: spelling

08-06-2008, 04:42 AM	#12
Tim64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vandalia, Ohio Posts: 396	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint Thanks for all the replies. I saw the Hot Rod Flatz on ebay. Man they have a lot of colors to chose from. I ask them how much I would need and they said a gallon. Seems like a lot. What do you guys think?

08-06-2008, 07:46 AM	#13
Tim64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vandalia, Ohio Posts: 396	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint Hey Guys, I just saw Eastwood Co. sells the same thing as the Hot Rod Flatz for about 50 bucks less. Anyone use their stuff before?

08-06-2008, 08:59 AM	#14
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,147	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I used about 15-20 cans of OSH primer on my bucket.... - - Looks ok and washes well. Looks better as time goes on. Eventually, it'll be painted with Blitz, Hot-rod, and even SEM trim paint. - Here's some old, faded shots: - - __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

08-06-2008, 09:10 AM	#15
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I did the '83 Silverado I used to have with Rustoleum automotive dark grey primer. It covers really well. If your gonna use primer, rattle cans will work, for paint, get the real stuff. I got my truck done with 6-8 cans, $24-$32. Here's a pic... Attached Images __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4 Last edited by jchav62; 08-06-2008 at 09:11 AM.

08-06-2008, 12:37 PM	#16
Tim64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vandalia, Ohio Posts: 396	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint This might sound stupid, but is there some kind of wax you can use on a flat finish, for protection? My truck is a daily driver as most of you know, and I'm not planning on changing that.

08-06-2008, 12:44 PM	#17
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I believe you can wax a flat paint just like a gloss... same same... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4



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08-06-2008, 12:57 PM	#18
66chevy PROSTREET SOLD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poorest state in America(Breaux Bridge,Louisiana) Posts: 370	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint if it has a flat clear on it __________________ 1966 CHEVY FLEETSIDE SOLD 11-29-9 TRUCK THREAD- http://http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=301368&page=2

08-06-2008, 01:53 PM	#19
GreyDX Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 26	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I want to throw in another vote for Hot Rod Flatz. http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/hrf201.aspx . I used it on a motorcycle two years ago and have been spilling gas on the tank regularly ever since with no damage. No rock chips on the frame either. It was easy to mix and spray with a cheap Harbor Freight sprayer. It worked real well, I'm getting more for my truck. __________________ GreyDX

08-06-2008, 03:45 PM	#20
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint Tractor Supply Farm Implement paint is really good tough Enamel and it's $21 a gallon. They also sale the harder and reducer for it. I painted a Jeep I had for about $30, the right way just with the cheaper paint and it looked fantastic for the money. They also have a flat black. __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902

08-06-2008, 04:17 PM	#21
salazar44 65 - Chevy C10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 625	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint I vote hot rod flatz. thats what i used on my truck. __________________ VIC One Repair Leads to Another! http://vix65chevyc10.blogspot.com Last edited by salazar44; 08-06-2008 at 04:20 PM.

08-06-2008, 09:57 PM	#22
apachedaddy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: pooler, GA Posts: 213	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint this is a few pics of mine and the title tells it all http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=282701

08-06-2008, 11:11 PM	#23
original_balzer Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: roosevelt utah Posts: 325	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint my truck is getting hot rod flatz as well and after seeing Salazar44's truck Im sure glad I got it. As far as waxing Yes you can wax flat paint it will make it satin. At least it did on my 85 jeep cherokee (sorry no pics) I sanded the paint to a haze repaired the rust and my buddy shot it with black primer for me. One day I got a wild hair and waxed it with liquid carnuba wax. I loved the way it looked but you have to wax it weekly. __________________ -61 c10 short step -67 c10 short step -71 k10 long fleet -77 k20 long fleet (gettin all the goodies from frankentruck) -79 c30/k30 3+3 frankentruck (cab and frame for sale) -99 GMC yukon daily driver

08-07-2008, 06:13 AM	#24
Tim64 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vandalia, Ohio Posts: 396	Re: Hot Rod Flat Black Paint Well, it looks like Hot Rod Flatz is the #1 choice. Eastwood Co. makes a Hot Rod Flat too. It must be new as no one said anything about it. Thanks Guys for all of the feed back. I'll post some pics when I get this done. Thanks, Tim I need more than one maybe that's why I can't get anything done??

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