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**slepysal** · 08-08-2008, 01:06 PM

I have a chance to get a 4spd Sawgina that came out of a 69 chevelle. Any tips or pros and cons would be great Also is 200.00 good price ?

62 short step · 08-08-2008, 03:07 PM

Is the saginaw the same as the munci 4 speed? If so, then I would jump on it for $200.

64swb · 08-08-2008, 03:14 PM

they aren't very strong, but if you don't have a lot of power or beat on it they hold up alright.

**slepysal** · 08-08-2008, 04:07 PM

My truck has a slightly warm L6 250
and is more of a cruiser,then a bruiser. So it should be fine ?

TimE · 08-08-2008, 05:27 PM

A saginaw should be fine behind a L6. As for the price, if it's a good running tranny(synchros are ok, no noises, etc.) it doesn't sound bad to me.

slorio · 08-08-2008, 10:20 PM

If you have a cruiser, have you considered the advantage of getting a transmission with an overdrive? The T-5 conversions are discussed if you search the archives. The non world class t-5's from and S-10 would work well behind your inline 6. Also, inliners.org has a tech write up on them that is very good. The Saginaw that you are looking at will still be a 1 to 1 ratio in fourth the same as 3rd in your 3 speed. You will only be picking up a bit closer spacing between gears but pretty much starting in first and ending at fourth in the same place with both transmissions.

Just food for thought. If you go with a T-5 you need the older ones from the late 70's that have a manual speedo drive. Pick and Pulls have these pretty regularly on the cheap.

Regards,
Steve
New Orleans

Bob66 · 08-10-2008, 08:02 AM

They are not the same as Muncie. Muncie has spur cut gears and an aluminum case, they were made for light vehicles with big horsepower motor, given a choice between the two in a truck I would rather have the Saggie for the cast iron case. It's not for big block torque but holds up fine with stock small chevy V8 and L6. I have two 4 speed Saginaws, how about $150 for the good used one and $400 for the one with new synchros, bearings, seals and a Hurst Competition plus shifter? I'm in Chico

08-08-2008, 01:06 PM	#1
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Thinking of a 4spd I have a chance to get a 4spd Sawgina that came out of a 69 chevelle. Any tips or pros and cons would be great Also is 200.00 good price ? __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... " Last edited by slepysal; 08-08-2008 at 01:12 PM.

08-08-2008, 03:07 PM	#2
62 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenwell Springs, Louisiana Posts: 2,882	Re: Thinking of a 4spd Is the saginaw the same as the munci 4 speed? If so, then I would jump on it for $200. __________________ www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com 1965 c-10 86 chevy c/k 20 Last edited by 62 short step; 08-08-2008 at 03:07 PM.

08-08-2008, 03:14 PM	#3
64swb Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Camino, CA Posts: 182	Re: Thinking of a 4spd they aren't very strong, but if you don't have a lot of power or beat on it they hold up alright. __________________ 1978 Chevy C10, 1986 Chevy K20 'Burb, 1970 Chevelle, 1996 K2500 'Burb, 1977 Chevy K10, 1970 Ford F-250, 72 Ford F100 4x4, 1979 Chevy C30, 1982 Chevy C30, 1996 Chevy Dually 4x4 SAS, 1997 Chevy Tahoe, 1991 Ford F-350 cclb dually 4x4

08-08-2008, 04:07 PM	#4
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: Thinking of a 4spd My truck has a slightly warm L6 250 and is more of a cruiser,then a bruiser. So it should be fine ? __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... " Last edited by slepysal; 08-08-2008 at 04:10 PM.

08-08-2008, 05:27 PM	#5
TimE Hey Y'all!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Minette, Alabama Posts: 1,755	Re: Thinking of a 4spd A saginaw should be fine behind a L6. As for the price, if it's a good running tranny(synchros are ok, no noises, etc.) it doesn't sound bad to me.

08-08-2008, 10:20 PM	#6
slorio Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 374	Re: Thinking of a 4spd If you have a cruiser, have you considered the advantage of getting a transmission with an overdrive? The T-5 conversions are discussed if you search the archives. The non world class t-5's from and S-10 would work well behind your inline 6. Also, inliners.org has a tech write up on them that is very good. The Saginaw that you are looking at will still be a 1 to 1 ratio in fourth the same as 3rd in your 3 speed. You will only be picking up a bit closer spacing between gears but pretty much starting in first and ending at fourth in the same place with both transmissions. Just food for thought. If you go with a T-5 you need the older ones from the late 70's that have a manual speedo drive. Pick and Pulls have these pretty regularly on the cheap. Regards, Steve New Orleans

08-10-2008, 08:02 AM	#7
Bob66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chico,CA Posts: 40	Re: Thinking of a 4spd They are not the same as Muncie. Muncie has spur cut gears and an aluminum case, they were made for light vehicles with big horsepower motor, given a choice between the two in a truck I would rather have the Saggie for the cast iron case. It's not for big block torque but holds up fine with stock small chevy V8 and L6. I have two 4 speed Saginaws, how about $150 for the good used one and $400 for the one with new synchros, bearings, seals and a Hurst Competition plus shifter? I'm in Chico Last edited by Bob66; 08-10-2008 at 08:12 AM.



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