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messed up c-10 · 11-16-2002, 03:17 PM

I found this engine on http://www.golensengineservice.com/ its only $2999.99 and makes 400 HP. what do you think of this one?

Specs:
Crankshaft Eagle Nodule-Iron crank
Connecting Rods Eagle Forged 5140 I-Beam rods
Pistons Keith Black HyperEutectic pistons
Rings Speed Pro Plasma-Moly Rings
Block Thermally cleaned and Stainless-Steel Shot. Inspected by MPI process. Bored, honed and pressure washed. Clevite cam bearings and pioneer brass freeze plugs installed.
Cam Comp Cams
- Operating Range
2000 - 6000 RPM
- Idle Quality
Good
- Duration
Intake 230° @ .050"
Exhaust 230° @ .050"
- Lift
Intake 0.48"
Exhaust 0.48"
- Lobe Seperation
110°
Heads GM Factory
- Type
Iron
- Combustion Chamber
70 CC
- Intake Runner
150 CC
- Intake Valves
SBI Steel 1.94"
- Exhaust Valves
SBI Steel 1.50"
- Head Gasket
Fel-Pro
- Compression Ratio
9.5:1

Rocker Arms Factory Stamped Steel
Pushrods Comp Cams

**swervin ervin** · 11-16-2002, 04:06 PM

Sounds like any other run of the mill 350 rebuild. Nothing special that I see. I don't like the head combo at all. They are just ordinary GM heads with 1.94 intakes. To tell you the truth, I don't see 400 HP from this engine. I also don't see $3000.00 for it either. At the most, this engine would probably make 350 HP. It would be pushing it then. The heads are what kills it. I think you can do a lot better than that for the money.

87 STEPPER · 11-16-2002, 05:56 PM

I agree with mike if it had some brand name aluminum heads then you would see 400+ HP, as is NOT!

Look at all the different crate motor dealers out there and you will see the ones that claim 400 HP all use aluminum heads and get just about what that outfits asking maybe a little more.

c10scotty · 11-16-2002, 06:46 PM

ya i cant see that engine making 400 hp. the stock heads will hold it back a lot.

Tom · 11-17-2002, 01:19 PM

no way thats at 400hp. For comparison, my 383 uses the same cam [comp magnum 280H] has 10.2:1 compression, vortec heads, and has 33cid over that engine and should make about 413hp.

gchemist · 11-18-2002, 10:57 PM

I'm gonna spend about 2/3 of that and I can probably say that I'll blow that engine out of the water. Them heads got to go. AFR baby!!!

messed up c-10 · 11-19-2002, 12:30 AM

Yeah I think I'll just stick with my 383 setup and have someone build it for me.

**swervin ervin** · 11-19-2002, 12:41 AM

Gerardo,

have you bought your heads yet? Which ones did you decide to go with, I know AFR's, but what size?

And 2/3's of $3000.00 is $2000.00 and your intake, heads and carb will be that much. You get'in the block and other stuff for free?

Tom · 11-19-2002, 11:15 AM

LOL@ G, your busted!

Hey messed up, whats the specs on the 383 you wanna build? Iron eagle heads good choice, but whats the intake port volume? Combustion chamber size? Piston type? Cam? Lets build a good combo

messed up c-10 · 11-19-2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom
LOL@ G, your busted!

Hey messed up, whats the specs on the 383 you wanna build? Iron eagle heads good choice, but whats the intake port volume? Combustion chamber size? Piston type? Cam? Lets build a good combo

the heads are 200cc intakes, 64cc combustion chambers, pistons are 18cc dished. cam is a 274 if I go hydro. lifter. or 276 if I go roller lifter.

gchemist · 11-19-2002, 09:28 PM

I guess I should have said 7/8s for getting close to the final price. I already have the carb (q-jet will be later), intake (RPM-Air gap - FREE

. The heads will be about $1300.00 delivered. Parts and assembly about $1300.00. Add the serpentine conversion and the electric fans and costs add up. No wonder BADBOW is still naked with no paint. :p

Heads are still a mystery. Some say the 185s out flow the 190s? I'm gonna have to look closely. I hope to get center bolt cover heads for the older intake styles. I think they are availble.

Tom · 11-19-2002, 11:01 PM

G, you want 190's, maybe even 195's. I have not herd the 185's out flow the 190's before.....

gchemist · 11-19-2002, 11:29 PM

Maybe it was the 190 out flow the 195's. My choice is 190 but that's the one someone in a performance section was outflowed by another head.

11-16-2002, 03:17 PM	#1
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	check out this engine I found this engine on http://www.golensengineservice.com/ its only $2999.99 and makes 400 HP. what do you think of this one? Specs: Crankshaft Eagle Nodule-Iron crank Connecting Rods Eagle Forged 5140 I-Beam rods Pistons Keith Black HyperEutectic pistons Rings Speed Pro Plasma-Moly Rings Block Thermally cleaned and Stainless-Steel Shot. Inspected by MPI process. Bored, honed and pressure washed. Clevite cam bearings and pioneer brass freeze plugs installed. Cam Comp Cams - Operating Range 2000 - 6000 RPM - Idle Quality Good - Duration Intake 230° @ .050" Exhaust 230° @ .050" - Lift Intake 0.48" Exhaust 0.48" - Lobe Seperation 110° Heads GM Factory - Type Iron - Combustion Chamber 70 CC - Intake Runner 150 CC - Intake Valves SBI Steel 1.94" - Exhaust Valves SBI Steel 1.50" - Head Gasket Fel-Pro - Compression Ratio 9.5:1 Rocker Arms Factory Stamped Steel Pushrods Comp Cams __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

11-16-2002, 04:06 PM	#2
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Sounds like any other run of the mill 350 rebuild. Nothing special that I see. I don't like the head combo at all. They are just ordinary GM heads with 1.94 intakes. To tell you the truth, I don't see 400 HP from this engine. I also don't see $3000.00 for it either. At the most, this engine would probably make 350 HP. It would be pushing it then. The heads are what kills it. I think you can do a lot better than that for the money. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

11-16-2002, 05:56 PM	#3
87 STEPPER STILL PLAYS WITH TRUX Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Fla. Posts: 2,764	I agree with mike if it had some brand name aluminum heads then you would see 400+ HP, as is NOT! Look at all the different crate motor dealers out there and you will see the ones that claim 400 HP all use aluminum heads and get just about what that outfits asking maybe a little more. __________________ ~~Bruce~~ MY 87 STEPPER MY 99 2D/WD TAHOE

11-16-2002, 06:46 PM	#4
c10scotty ~THE SILVER BULLET~ Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: WYOMING Posts: 285	ya i cant see that engine making 400 hp. the stock heads will hold it back a lot. __________________ ~1980 c10 chevy scottsdale~ ~2.5/4 drop 305/th350c~

11-17-2002, 01:19 PM	#5
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	no way thats at 400hp. For comparison, my 383 uses the same cam [comp magnum 280H] has 10.2:1 compression, vortec heads, and has 33cid over that engine and should make about 413hp. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-18-2002, 10:57 PM	#6
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	I'm gonna spend about 2/3 of that and I can probably say that I'll blow that engine out of the water. Them heads got to go. AFR baby!!! __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

11-19-2002, 12:30 AM	#7
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	Yeah I think I'll just stick with my 383 setup and have someone build it for me. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

11-19-2002, 12:41 AM	#8
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Gerardo, have you bought your heads yet? Which ones did you decide to go with, I know AFR's, but what size? And 2/3's of $3000.00 is $2000.00 and your intake, heads and carb will be that much. You get'in the block and other stuff for free?

11-19-2002, 11:15 AM	#9
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	LOL@ G, your busted! Hey messed up, whats the specs on the 383 you wanna build? Iron eagle heads good choice, but whats the intake port volume? Combustion chamber size? Piston type? Cam? Lets build a good combo __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-19-2002, 09:28 PM	#11
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	I guess I should have said 7/8s for getting close to the final price. I already have the carb (q-jet will be later), intake (RPM-Air gap - FREE . The heads will be about $1300.00 delivered. Parts and assembly about $1300.00. Add the serpentine conversion and the electric fans and costs add up. No wonder BADBOW is still naked with no paint. :p Heads are still a mystery. Some say the 185s out flow the 190s? I'm gonna have to look closely. I hope to get center bolt cover heads for the older intake styles. I think they are availble. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

11-19-2002, 11:01 PM	#12
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	G, you want 190's, maybe even 195's. I have not herd the 185's out flow the 190's before..... __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-19-2002, 11:29 PM	#13
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Maybe it was the 190 out flow the 195's. My choice is 190 but that's the one someone in a performance section was outflowed by another head. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos



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