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drewfever1020 · 10-04-2008, 05:13 PM

iv been trying to take this damn thing off for a while and i cant get it off!
im getting angry already!
i need to take it off cuz its in the way and i need to use my jack to raise my motor just a little to get my damn oil pan out!
here are some pics of what im trying to get off!

im trying to get that middle bar off!

how do i get these damn weird srew off?
can someone help me asap!

tcb-1 · 10-04-2008, 05:21 PM

it's a rivet, so you will have to either
1. grind the head off then with a center punch and drive them out
2. or air chisel the head off
3. or drill them out with a decent drill bit.

they aren't exactly the easiest fastener to take out, but it's do-able with a bit of elbow grease. don't freak!!

**BIG ORANGE** · 10-04-2008, 05:32 PM

why is your pulleys so low in your truck? that doesnt look correct! your engine doesnt look placed properly! did you just get this truck??

drewfever1020 · 10-04-2008, 07:14 PM

iv had these truck for about 9 months already!
im barly starting to do work on it!

*screamin_eagle* · 10-04-2008, 07:15 PM

I don't think you want to be taking that out. besides the oil pan should come right out.

**BIG ORANGE** · 10-04-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by screamin_eagle

I don't think you want to be taking that out. besides the oil pan should come right out.

I agree with scremming eagle, that engine looks low in the cradle, but you dont want to remove that cross bracket! let us know if we can be of any further help.

68gmsee · 10-04-2008, 07:54 PM

As tcb-1 mentioned, it's a rivet. I used an air chisel to remove them on a transmission crossmember. Could possibly be do-able with a hammer and a good quality chisel but you'll be madder'n a wet hen doing it that way.

For sure, one thing these old trucks will test is your patience and perseverence.

67dragtruck · 10-04-2008, 08:11 PM

I wouldn't take it out. Get a hoist from somebody to lift on the motor if you can't get it out any other way. Also try rotating the crank some if the pan is hanging on a particular spot on it to get it out of the way.

Tom

suville · 10-04-2008, 09:37 PM

If youre gunna use cinder blocks for jack stands turn it on its open side so the center web and sides support the wieght , I would recomend you make certain the brick is not cracked ANY where discard it If that truck falls on you you prolly wont need to be concerned about an oil pan!

67chevyguy · 10-04-2008, 10:15 PM

first rule my dad taught me before I started working on my truck was don't ever put it up on cinder blocks. They will crumble without warning.
Jack stands are cheap, your body or life, not so much.

thirdstreettito · 10-04-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drewfever1020

iv had these truck for about 9 months already!
im barly starting to do work on it!

Calm down, I know you are angry but we cant help with you "screaming".

First thing is first, get jack stands, your life or a hundred bucks for safety.

Second, you dont want that cross member out. It is there to keep the front clip together.

TennesseeZ · 10-04-2008, 10:47 PM

Also check the motor mounts, they may need replacing, from the looks of the motor in the cradle.

68C15 · 10-04-2008, 10:48 PM

I hope you werent planning to jack the engine up by the balancer. it will damage it and BAD things will happen. get an engine hoist and attach it to the front of both cylinder heads.

why you taking the pan off? leaking gasket?

drewdude92 · 10-04-2008, 11:54 PM

to get the oil pan off is you gotta lift your motor up about 3 inches it is the biggest pain in the butt though...make sure you get that gasket sealed up because that would suck!!

drewfever1020 · 10-05-2008, 12:11 AM

ya man im gonna try to do this rite the first time cuz man that gasket is killing me!
thanks everyone for posting, i will take ur advice!

C20_Paul · 10-05-2008, 12:26 AM

I had that same problem when I replaced my oil pan gasket. All you have to do is lift the engine up a few inches. You can pick it up by the harmonic balancer using a 2x4 and your floor jack. Just make sure that you have it steady before you go sticking your hands under the engine.

Just go slow and a have a buddy around to help out.

BTW I would recommend getting a one piece oil pan gasket they are WAY better than that four piece set-up that most places give you.

c10chevy69 · 10-05-2008, 12:33 AM

Anybody notice the bend in the driver side spring? There is one on pass side but not as bad.

Cyclone44 · 10-05-2008, 12:41 AM

Yeah just do it the right way like all have said and be safe about it......

68C15 · 10-05-2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c10chevy69

Anybody notice the bend in the driver side spring? There is one on pass side but not as bad.

that is from a "blue flame" suspension drop. that thing has to ride like a freight train now.

70GMCer · 10-05-2008, 07:40 AM

Just do this!! It's easy!! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...91#post1487791

Sport/Truck · 10-05-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70GMCer

Just do this!! It's easy!! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...91#post1487791

10-04-2008, 05:13 PM	#1
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	help me cuz im getti angry! iv been trying to take this damn thing off for a while and i cant get it off! im getting angry already! i need to take it off cuz its in the way and i need to use my jack to raise my motor just a little to get my damn oil pan out! here are some pics of what im trying to get off! im trying to get that middle bar off! how do i get these damn weird srew off? can someone help me asap!

10-04-2008, 05:21 PM	#2
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! it's a rivet, so you will have to either 1. grind the head off then with a center punch and drive them out 2. or air chisel the head off 3. or drill them out with a decent drill bit. they aren't exactly the easiest fastener to take out, but it's do-able with a bit of elbow grease. don't freak!! __________________ Doug THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten". The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson Last edited by tcb-1; 10-04-2008 at 05:22 PM.

10-04-2008, 05:32 PM	#3
BIG ORANGE Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lancaster S.C. Posts: 4,764	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! why is your pulleys so low in your truck? that doesnt look correct! your engine doesnt look placed properly! did you just get this truck?? __________________ Things happen for a reason!

10-04-2008, 07:14 PM	#4
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! iv had these truck for about 9 months already! im barly starting to do work on it!

10-04-2008, 07:15 PM	#5
screamin_eagle Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 114	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! I don't think you want to be taking that out. besides the oil pan should come right out.

10-04-2008, 07:54 PM	#7
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! As tcb-1 mentioned, it's a rivet. I used an air chisel to remove them on a transmission crossmember. Could possibly be do-able with a hammer and a good quality chisel but you'll be madder'n a wet hen doing it that way. For sure, one thing these old trucks will test is your patience and perseverence.

10-04-2008, 08:11 PM	#8
67dragtruck Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bethlehem, GA, USA Posts: 389	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! I wouldn't take it out. Get a hoist from somebody to lift on the motor if you can't get it out any other way. Also try rotating the crank some if the pan is hanging on a particular spot on it to get it out of the way. Tom __________________ No more dragtruck for me. I'm building a new ride though. It's a '71 fleetside, 400 sbc, 700R4. Working on it now, finally. Soon to have Edelbrock Pro Flo EFI, Vintage Air, 1 piece windows, buddy buckets, etc. My new build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...17#post2861817 Best pass with the old dragtruck: 5.32 @ 131.6 mph 1/8 mile w/ a 1.25 60' Fogger/Plate 2003 Best pass with the street 406 hydraulic roller motor w/ mild plate tuneup 5.93 @ 114 mph 1/8 mile w/ a 1.29 60' 2003 or 2004

10-04-2008, 09:37 PM	#9
suville Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mtn. Home, Idaho Posts: 906	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! If youre gunna use cinder blocks for jack stands turn it on its open side so the center web and sides support the wieght , I would recomend you make certain the brick is not cracked ANY where discard it If that truck falls on you you prolly wont need to be concerned about an oil pan!

10-04-2008, 10:15 PM	#10
67chevyguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surrey , BC, Canada Posts: 83	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! first rule my dad taught me before I started working on my truck was don't ever put it up on cinder blocks. They will crumble without warning. Jack stands are cheap, your body or life, not so much. Last edited by 67chevyguy; 10-04-2008 at 10:16 PM.

10-04-2008, 10:47 PM	#12
TennesseeZ Countdown Survivor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bean Station, East Tennessee Posts: 9,676	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! Also check the motor mounts, they may need replacing, from the looks of the motor in the cradle.

10-04-2008, 10:48 PM	#13
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! I hope you werent planning to jack the engine up by the balancer. it will damage it and BAD things will happen. get an engine hoist and attach it to the front of both cylinder heads. why you taking the pan off? leaking gasket?

10-04-2008, 11:54 PM	#14
drewdude92 72 chevys 4 life Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Crescent,Ok Posts: 406	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! to get the oil pan off is you gotta lift your motor up about 3 inches it is the biggest pain in the butt though...make sure you get that gasket sealed up because that would suck!!

10-05-2008, 12:11 AM	#15
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! ya man im gonna try to do this rite the first time cuz man that gasket is killing me! thanks everyone for posting, i will take ur advice!

10-05-2008, 12:26 AM	#16
C20_Paul Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 35	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! I had that same problem when I replaced my oil pan gasket. All you have to do is lift the engine up a few inches. You can pick it up by the harmonic balancer using a 2x4 and your floor jack. Just make sure that you have it steady before you go sticking your hands under the engine. Just go slow and a have a buddy around to help out. BTW I would recommend getting a one piece oil pan gasket they are WAY better than that four piece set-up that most places give you.

10-05-2008, 12:33 AM	#17
c10chevy69 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 205	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! Anybody notice the bend in the driver side spring? There is one on pass side but not as bad. __________________ 1969 chevy C10 long bed 350 4bbl auto p/disc and 5 lug



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10-05-2008, 12:41 AM	#18
Cyclone44 Step Brother Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: K-town Posts: 4,029	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! Yeah just do it the right way like all have said and be safe about it......

10-05-2008, 07:40 AM	#20
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: help me cuz im getti angry! Just do this!! It's easy!! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...91#post1487791 __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

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