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lyrikz · 10-13-2008, 06:40 PM

Im installing my front bags, and am getting ready to drill the holes for the upper control arm plate. Is there any reason why i cant weld that plate on??? It will take me 4 times as long drilling through this metal and bolting up the plate (which i think looks funky) then it would to just weld it in....

Im kinda workin on the truck right now as we speak, awaiting responses. ahaha

68 short step · 10-13-2008, 06:45 PM

depends on if you're able to screw in the fitting on top of the bag.....on one set of upper bag mounts i have you ARE able to screw in the fitting and the other set you ARE NOT able to....so id think if you are able to it shouldn't be a problem..

lyrikz · 10-13-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 68 short step

depends on if you're able to screw in the fitting on top of the bag.....on one set of upper bag mounts i have you ARE able to screw in the fitting and the other set you ARE NOT able to....so id think if you are able to it shouldn't be a problem..

RIght there. Ok, so i must bolt em on... dang.

thanks man.

71tahoe · 10-13-2008, 07:24 PM

You also need a bump stop and one of the outer bolt holes is ideal.

lyrikz · 10-13-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 71tahoe

You also need a bump stop and one of the outer bolt holes is ideal.

oooh, i dont have a bumpstop..... Any recommendations on bumpstops for a 71 chevy?

RunninLo · 10-13-2008, 11:34 PM

energy suspension and a couple other places make a urathane one that looks like a bee hive with a 3/8th stud that works pretty good in that spot.

of course I'm one of the wreckless crowd that doesn't run one because my frame will plant before the bumpstop!

josh

lyrikz · 10-13-2008, 11:38 PM

from the looks, my front doesnt have one right now.... once i get the bag in i will take a peek and see if its needed when i fully air out.... probably a good thing to have im sure.

RunninLo · 10-14-2008, 12:48 AM

it is absolutely a very bad idea to drive with your bags defalted. If your suspension bottoms out on the bag and your bags don't have an internal bumpstop ( some do, most don't) driving with them bottomed out drastically reduces the bags life. The cool thing with a lot of the synthetic bumpstops is they can be progressive to start soft and then get firmer as they compress providing a less jarring end of travel experience.

Josh

RocketChevy56 · 10-14-2008, 10:34 AM

I agree with Lo on the bags. I had a leak in my front plumbing somewhere that lowered the front down and leaked out after sitting at night. I was in a hurry and drove it to work for like 2 days like that. I didn't really ever find the leak, so my bags deflated most every night for a good while. Needless to say...... H-pipe took a beating and my bags are wearing bad on me now

(6 months later) I'll probably end up buying the air ride control arms and such, so I'm not too concerned, but learn from my mistakes!!! don't run your bags low!!

hotrodhomi · 10-14-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RocketChevy56

I agree with Lo on the bags. I had a leak in my front plumbing somewhere that lowered the front down and leaked out after sitting at night. I was in a hurry and drove it to work for like 2 days like that. I didn't really ever find the leak, so my bags deflated most every night for a good while. Needless to say...... H-pipe took a beating and my bags are wearing bad on me now

(6 months later) I'll probably end up buying the air ride control arms and such, so I'm not too concerned, but learn from my mistakes!!! don't run your bags low!!

How are you in such a hurry that you can hit the switch or do you not have a compressor on your truck?

lyrikz · 10-14-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RunninLo

it is absolutely a very bad idea to drive with your bags defalted. If your suspension bottoms out on the bag and your bags don't have an internal bumpstop ( some do, most don't) driving with them bottomed out drastically reduces the bags life. The cool thing with a lot of the synthetic bumpstops is they can be progressive to start soft and then get firmer as they compress providing a less jarring end of travel experience.

Josh

My bags have internal bumpstop... I dont plan on ever running em without air. I almost bought some bumpstops and realized these had internals. That works for me....

RocketChevy56 · 10-14-2008, 12:12 PM

The guy I bought the truck from had the compressor but wanted it. So I let him keep it and he converted the lines to an air chuck ( which I suppose makes them air springs instead of air bags?) So no, at the time I didn't have a compressor. So my dumb @$$ decided that it was ok to drive like it was. He did a shady job on the bag setup so I changed it since. Still a dumb move on my part

BACKYARD88 · 10-14-2008, 04:54 PM

Even if you bag has an internal, I'd still use an external as well. I'd rather wear out one that's bolted to the frame than the one inside the bag.

10-13-2008, 06:40 PM	#1
lyrikz PITbut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: monroe washington Posts: 3,052	Is there any reason why i cant weld this? Im installing my front bags, and am getting ready to drill the holes for the upper control arm plate. Is there any reason why i cant weld that plate on??? It will take me 4 times as long drilling through this metal and bolting up the plate (which i think looks funky) then it would to just weld it in.... Im kinda workin on the truck right now as we speak, awaiting responses. ahaha

10-13-2008, 06:45 PM	#2
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? depends on if you're able to screw in the fitting on top of the bag.....on one set of upper bag mounts i have you ARE able to screw in the fitting and the other set you ARE NOT able to....so id think if you are able to it shouldn't be a problem..

10-13-2008, 07:24 PM	#4
71tahoe Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jonesboro, AR Posts: 916	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? You also need a bump stop and one of the outer bolt holes is ideal.

10-13-2008, 11:34 PM	#6
RunninLo 3DrDwn--the 'burb not the band Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 598	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? energy suspension and a couple other places make a urathane one that looks like a bee hive with a 3/8th stud that works pretty good in that spot. of course I'm one of the wreckless crowd that doesn't run one because my frame will plant before the bumpstop! josh __________________ Slo and Lo that is the tempo. '72 burb build page here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259256 '89 GMC Dually crew build page coming soon. 88 4x4 crew DD duallys past/present pics here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...46#post4001246 89 1 ton Dually rear flip kit install here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=354327

10-13-2008, 11:38 PM	#7
lyrikz PITbut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: monroe washington Posts: 3,052	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? from the looks, my front doesnt have one right now.... once i get the bag in i will take a peek and see if its needed when i fully air out.... probably a good thing to have im sure.

10-14-2008, 12:48 AM	#8
RunninLo 3DrDwn--the 'burb not the band Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 598	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? it is absolutely a very bad idea to drive with your bags defalted. If your suspension bottoms out on the bag and your bags don't have an internal bumpstop ( some do, most don't) driving with them bottomed out drastically reduces the bags life. The cool thing with a lot of the synthetic bumpstops is they can be progressive to start soft and then get firmer as they compress providing a less jarring end of travel experience. Josh __________________ Slo and Lo that is the tempo. '72 burb build page here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259256 '89 GMC Dually crew build page coming soon. 88 4x4 crew DD duallys past/present pics here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...46#post4001246 89 1 ton Dually rear flip kit install here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=354327 Last edited by RunninLo; 10-14-2008 at 12:48 AM. Reason: spelling

10-14-2008, 10:34 AM	#9
RocketChevy56 Certified BFH Operator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 154	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? I agree with Lo on the bags. I had a leak in my front plumbing somewhere that lowered the front down and leaked out after sitting at night. I was in a hurry and drove it to work for like 2 days like that. I didn't really ever find the leak, so my bags deflated most every night for a good while. Needless to say...... H-pipe took a beating and my bags are wearing bad on me now (6 months later) I'll probably end up buying the air ride control arms and such, so I'm not too concerned, but learn from my mistakes!!! don't run your bags low!! __________________ - 1969 swb C/10 fleetside -LSx swap and Resto in progress LQ4/TH400/Ed Curtis cam/Pro Flo intake/Brian Tooley Goodies ..... a couple snails may be trying to crawl into my engine bay... -1997 Z/28 - LT1/T-56 - Bolt ons, 9 inch, built trans/clutch and on the bottle

10-14-2008, 12:12 PM	#12
RocketChevy56 Certified BFH Operator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 154	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? The guy I bought the truck from had the compressor but wanted it. So I let him keep it and he converted the lines to an air chuck ( which I suppose makes them air springs instead of air bags?) So no, at the time I didn't have a compressor. So my dumb @$$ decided that it was ok to drive like it was. He did a shady job on the bag setup so I changed it since. Still a dumb move on my part __________________ - 1969 swb C/10 fleetside -LSx swap and Resto in progress LQ4/TH400/Ed Curtis cam/Pro Flo intake/Brian Tooley Goodies ..... a couple snails may be trying to crawl into my engine bay... -1997 Z/28 - LT1/T-56 - Bolt ons, 9 inch, built trans/clutch and on the bottle

10-14-2008, 04:54 PM	#13
BACKYARD88 On the fast track to nowhere.. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Splendora, Texas Posts: 5,316	Re: Is there any reason why i cant weld this? Even if you bag has an internal, I'd still use an external as well. I'd rather wear out one that's bolted to the frame than the one inside the bag. __________________ -Mike Owen- Support the board here! 71 Chevy short fleet build thread Double D Norwood, Houston, Cecilia, Jackson, Monroe and counting



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