Question for the options gurus - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**leddzepp** · 10-20-2008, 01:20 AM

I have two sets of shoulder harness buckle retainers that mount to the center console for bucket seat trucks. I want people's opinions on which ones are factory correct for a 1972 truck. I purchased the tan boot style holders from a board member who removed them from a 72 Blazer with buckets/console. He also has removed this style personally from 4 other 71-72 Blazers and Suburbans, as well as buying a couple of consoles at swap meets that had the boot style retainers mounted on them. I also have a set of black ones, slightly different in design that I was also told were for 67-72 trucks. According to the parts books and illustrations I have seen, the black ones SHOULD be correct. However, I have never heard from anyone PERSONALLY that has seen them on or removed them from a factory truck console. Given my experience with mis-prints and errors in the books, I am starting to think the book might be wrong?? I really do not know so I am posing the question here on the forum. Shoulder harnesses were a rare option, so I do not have a whole lot to go on. Is it possible GM used both of these styles on our truck consoles? Maybe different years had different styles? The illustrations I saw for the black ones were from a 69 truck parts book. Any experience or help would be appreciated.

**leddzepp** · 10-20-2008, 01:30 AM

What a coincidence...I just found these 71 van buckets for sale and noticed they had the boot syle retainers mounted to the sides of the seat brackets. Here is the link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=308377

Interesting...nobody has ever told me these came in vans. Maybe they were used in both vans and our trucks??

**fine69** · 10-20-2008, 01:45 AM

I believe the black set is for 67-68 buddy bucket seats.

Mounted to the front of the console/seat.

**leddzepp** · 10-20-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fine69

I believe the black set is for 67-68 buddy bucket seats.

Mounted to the front of the console/seat.

Thank you for your input! Every little bit helps. I was also told that the black set was used on bench seats, but had a different style mounting bracket.

Longhorn Man · 10-20-2008, 05:28 AM

I've seen the rubber ones in vans.

**special-K** · 10-20-2008, 07:40 AM

Do the light colored ones have three hole mounting in a triangle?That`s how they mount to the console from what I`ve seen.

**leddzepp** · 10-20-2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Do the light colored ones have three hole mounting in a triangle?That`s how they mount to the console from what I`ve seen.

Yes, they do. I will post a pic later of the back side

Longhorn Man · 10-20-2008, 08:16 PM

The assembly manual shows the black ones... they are just like clips, or hangers, right? I didn't see the rubber ones anywhere in there.

**leddzepp** · 10-21-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

The assembly manual shows the black ones... they are just like clips, or hangers, right? I didn't see the rubber ones anywhere in there.

Yes, they are clips. I have not seen the rubber ones in the assembly manual either. But I have heard from several members that they have seen the rubber ones on the consoles personally, NOT the black ones. I have not had anyone yet tell me that they have personally seen or removed the black clip style on a console. This is why I am wondering if the book might be incorrect in this case??

**leddzepp** · 10-27-2008, 12:15 PM

Here is the pic I have from an assembly manual. Note that it is from 1969. I was wondering if it is possible they used the rubber boot style on the later (71-72) center consoles? So far it seems to be about 50/50 as to which ones were used.

**71blksuper4x4** · 02-07-2009, 08:56 PM

led, bringing this back up for you. It is definitely the black ones. Had a guy at a swap meet that has been into these trucks since the 70's tell me he has only seen one truck with these on way back when, and it was a 71 or 72 Cheyenne Super with the black ones. Matter of fact, he had some N.O.S. ones there from when he bought old inventory back in the 80's. Of course I needed them for my truck so I couldn't resist, but they are exactly like your black ones. Trevor

BLAZERMAN · 02-07-2009, 09:37 PM

The black set pictured are not the correct ones for our years of trucks. They will work and about as close as your going to find. They were an accessory for 70-72 Impalas and possibly a few other models.
There is a guy here that gets them and bends the brackets and he sells them at the local swap meets...they are readily available on Ebay fairly cheap.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-71...Q5fAccessories

chipflyer · 02-07-2009, 11:08 PM

I believe that what Blazerman said is correct, and that the rubber ones were used in Vans. I think the Assembly Manual photo shows it correctly. Just my opinion and I have not actually seen an original setup in person either.

Jeff

**leddzepp** · 02-08-2009, 04:21 AM

The ones I have pictured are different than the ones one E-bay. The part number is also different. Mine are 3992811.

10-20-2008, 01:20 AM	#1
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,031	Question for the options gurus I have two sets of shoulder harness buckle retainers that mount to the center console for bucket seat trucks. I want people's opinions on which ones are factory correct for a 1972 truck. I purchased the tan boot style holders from a board member who removed them from a 72 Blazer with buckets/console. He also has removed this style personally from 4 other 71-72 Blazers and Suburbans, as well as buying a couple of consoles at swap meets that had the boot style retainers mounted on them. I also have a set of black ones, slightly different in design that I was also told were for 67-72 trucks. According to the parts books and illustrations I have seen, the black ones SHOULD be correct. However, I have never heard from anyone PERSONALLY that has seen them on or removed them from a factory truck console. Given my experience with mis-prints and errors in the books, I am starting to think the book might be wrong?? I really do not know so I am posing the question here on the forum. Shoulder harnesses were a rare option, so I do not have a whole lot to go on. Is it possible GM used both of these styles on our truck consoles? Maybe different years had different styles? The illustrations I saw for the black ones were from a 69 truck parts book. Any experience or help would be appreciated. Attached Images

10-20-2008, 01:30 AM	#2
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,031	Re: Question for the options gurus What a coincidence...I just found these 71 van buckets for sale and noticed they had the boot syle retainers mounted to the sides of the seat brackets. Here is the link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=308377 Interesting...nobody has ever told me these came in vans. Maybe they were used in both vans and our trucks?? Last edited by leddzepp; 10-20-2008 at 01:35 AM.

10-20-2008, 01:45 AM	#3
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Re: Question for the options gurus I believe the black set is for 67-68 buddy bucket seats. Mounted to the front of the console/seat. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

10-20-2008, 05:28 AM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Question for the options gurus I've seen the rubber ones in vans.

10-20-2008, 07:40 AM	#6
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Question for the options gurus Do the light colored ones have three hole mounting in a triangle?That`s how they mount to the console from what I`ve seen. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-20-2008, 08:16 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Question for the options gurus The assembly manual shows the black ones... they are just like clips, or hangers, right? I didn't see the rubber ones anywhere in there.

10-27-2008, 12:15 PM	#10
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,031	Re: Question for the options gurus Here is the pic I have from an assembly manual. Note that it is from 1969. I was wondering if it is possible they used the rubber boot style on the later (71-72) center consoles? So far it seems to be about 50/50 as to which ones were used. Attached Images

02-07-2009, 08:56 PM	#11
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,156	Re: Question for the options gurus led, bringing this back up for you. It is definitely the black ones. Had a guy at a swap meet that has been into these trucks since the 70's tell me he has only seen one truck with these on way back when, and it was a 71 or 72 Cheyenne Super with the black ones. Matter of fact, he had some N.O.S. ones there from when he bought old inventory back in the 80's. Of course I needed them for my truck so I couldn't resist, but they are exactly like your black ones. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

02-07-2009, 09:37 PM	#12
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	Re: Question for the options gurus The black set pictured are not the correct ones for our years of trucks. They will work and about as close as your going to find. They were an accessory for 70-72 Impalas and possibly a few other models. There is a guy here that gets them and bends the brackets and he sells them at the local swap meets...they are readily available on Ebay fairly cheap.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-71...Q5fAccessories __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

02-07-2009, 11:08 PM	#13
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: Question for the options gurus I believe that what Blazerman said is correct, and that the rubber ones were used in Vans. I think the Assembly Manual photo shows it correctly. Just my opinion and I have not actually seen an original setup in person either. Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

02-08-2009, 04:21 AM	#14
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,031	Re: Question for the options gurus The ones I have pictured are different than the ones one E-bay. The part number is also different. Mine are 3992811.



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