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68Stepbed · 10-27-2008, 11:42 AM

I don't spend alot of time complaining about my truck here on the board, but I really just don't like the stance of my truck. I love the way the front sits, but I think it still sits too high in the rear. Everyone I talk to tells me the truck looks great and to leave it alone, but I think they're just being nice.

Well, I gave ECE a call and ordered a set of 5" rear drop springs and a Super track bar kit. I'm hoping to acheive the look I've been hoping for.

Here's how it looks in the current 3.5/4 drop.

The new stuff should be here Friday. I will post photos of the new stance after I get everything installed.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 10-27-2008, 11:47 AM

Sweet hopefully she will come down enough to make ya happy..

69ShortStep · 10-27-2008, 11:48 AM

Your truck is great and I think you will be happy with what your ordered. I love the stance of my stepside after i did the 3.5/5 drop from ECE. I have 275/60/15 on the back and 245/60/15 on the front and it looks perfect to me and did lower the rear just right. Their parts are quality and easy to install too.

Hope this picture helps.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...aw/507web1.jpg

c10crazy · 10-27-2008, 01:02 PM

Why didn't you just order their drop blocks and keep your springs?. I've heard it's better (can't remember why) to run a 4" rear spring and then a drop block. Board member Scoti has posted about this in the suspension forum. Sweet truck by the way!

**basketcase** · 10-27-2008, 01:37 PM

I have ECE 4" springs on mine and I'm thinking I will need at least another inch of drop block to set it where I want it. I still don't have the final wheel/tire package installed yet to tell for sure. The adjustable track bar is a must. Even with just the 4" springs the stock bar is pushing the rear off to the right side by 1 1/2" and is nearly horizonal.

The down side to dropped springs is that they are 4" ect. lower compared to new stock springs. When you replace old sagging springs you don't get the drop you thought you were getting. My truck went down about 2" with the 4" springs. I would hate to invest in 5" springs and not see much difference. With a 1" drop block it will go down 1", period.

Orange · 10-27-2008, 01:42 PM

Well, it'd be hard to make your truck look bad.

DLB

tcb-1 · 10-27-2008, 02:05 PM

I'm with Orange. It would be very hard to make your truck look bad!

I had the same issue with my stepside. it seemed like it didn't drop as much as I wanted it to even with 5" drop springs. Is the stepside bed lighter? metal to wood difference in weight? I don't know.

but I have 5" springs and 2" blocks on the back........ and I still haven't needed to C notch yet.

anyway, not to hijack. can you post pics after your done, I can't wait to see that beast closer to the Earth!

big_al_71 · 10-27-2008, 02:47 PM

It is definetly sitting pretty high on the back, post picts after you install the new stuff.

eightbanger · 10-27-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

The new stuff should be here Friday. I will post photos of the new stance after I get everything installed.

Take some pics of the install as well....I for one would love to see how that all goes together.

dfosh · 10-27-2008, 04:17 PM

I agree i have seen your truck . It dose look awful i could maybe give you 2500 for it. Just kidding . If your truck is the one with the grey custom bench seat that was at the shades this year it looks great. best looking seat i have seen in these trucks . Who did the seat?

OrangeCrush1970 · 10-27-2008, 04:24 PM

Throw some sand bags in the bed and squat the rearend to see if you like it any better...

LUV2XCLR8 · 10-27-2008, 04:24 PM

Matt,

Didn't think about it till I saw the post, even though I read
it over on TNCTC. Some of these Super Track bar kits will
hit if you use all springs. I have heard some say you need
a 1" block just to keep everything from binding. (Hope not)

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2008, 05:12 PM

Personally, I like the way it looks right now. It does gove more of an old school hot rod vibe over a lowrider vibe... but beauty is all in the eye of the beer holder.

70c10 · 10-27-2008, 09:31 PM

Beautiful truck! I have 4" rear drop springs and I want more

I'm adding a 2" block and shock relocators to mine.

powerbench · 10-27-2008, 09:46 PM

now thats funny longhorn..... ... but beauty is all in the eye of the beer holder.

*chevy29267truck* · 10-28-2008, 01:15 AM

Very sweet looking truck most of my truck is stock

68Stepbed · 10-28-2008, 07:42 AM

Hey fellas, thanks for all the compliments and remarks. I'll try to answer everyones questions here.

I didn't want to use blocks. ECE doesn't sell them or recommend them. Also, the cheapest I've found blocks are $60, which is more than half the price of new springs. ECE is great to work with. The guy I spoke was very nice and was willing to do whatever he could to save me some $$$ I got free shipping which would've been $20 and the super track bar kit comes with new U-bolts which I had already bought for mine, so he took them out of the kit and saved me another $25.

dfosh, Wayne's Auto Trim in Morristown did my seat. He had the company that cut the foam save the profile for him so if anyone else wanted a seat done similar, he would have it ready to make.

LUV, I hope there isn't any binding. I don't know what other comanies are having problems with, but everyone I've talked to that used the ECE Super track bar havn't had any problems.

72BlckButy · 10-28-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tcb-1

I'm with Orange. It would be very hard to make your truck look bad!

I had the same issue with my stepside. it seemed like it didn't drop as much as I wanted it to even with 5" drop springs. Is the stepside bed lighter? metal to wood difference in weight? I don't know.

but I have 5" springs and 2" blocks on the back........ and I still haven't needed to C notch yet.

anyway, not to hijack. can you post pics after your done, I can't wait to see that beast closer to the Earth!

I agree with Doug, your truck will be killer no matter what you decide to do. If it was my truck, I would want the back lower than it currently is. I find it difficult to determine the correct look, but after you've made up your mind, it's better to go with that decision.

Best of luck!

72BlckButy · 10-28-2008, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68Stepbed

Hey fellas, thanks for all the compliments and remarks. I'll try to answer everyones questions here.

I didn't want to use blocks. ECE doesn't sell them or recommend them. Also, the cheapest I've found blocks are $60, which is more than half the price of new springs. ECE is great to work with. The guy I spoke was very nice and was willing to do whatever he could to save me some $$$ I got free shipping which would've been $20 and the super track bar kit comes with new U-bolts which I had already bought for mine, so he took them out of the kit and saved me another $25.

dfosh, Wayne's Auto Trim in Morristown did my seat. He had the company that cut the foam save the profile for him so if anyone else wanted a seat done similar, he would have it ready to make.

LUV, I hope there isn't any binding. I don't know what other comanies are having problems with, but everyone I've talked to that used the ECE Super track bar havn't had any problems.

ECE is such a great company, and their customer service is outstanding! I'm glad to hear that they were able to save you some on shipping/parts.

I haven't heard of the binding issue with ECE's SuperTrac bar... curious about that one.

dfosh · 10-28-2008, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the info . I have always liked the seat . It gives the impression of more room in the cab .

cameeks · 10-28-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69ShortStep

Your truck is great and I think you will be happy with what your ordered. I love the stance of my stepside after i did the 3.5/5 drop from ECE. I have 275/60/15 on the back and 245/60/15 on the front and it looks perfect to me and did lower the rear just right. Their parts are quality and easy to install too.

Hope this picture helps.

Thought I would help you put your picture up here

Longhorn Man · 10-28-2008, 05:55 PM

Here's another pic of his truck. It does sit nice...

see ten · 10-29-2008, 06:07 AM

The only problems that I'm aware of with the ECE super track bar is when it's combined with a c-notch. Their bar is placed on the back of the trailing arm causing it to hit the frame before your axle bottoms out in the notch. Other long track bars I've seen have been mounted on the inward side of the trailing arm. When mounted this way the axle can move on up in your notch without any problems. Since you're not running a notch you'll have no problems. Looking forward to seeing it come together Matt!

cameeks · 10-29-2008, 11:48 AM

With a 5" drop in the rear how much travel do you have before hitting the bump stops? Also when you use the 1" drop springs in the front with the spindle is it hard to align?

whatnow123 · 10-29-2008, 12:23 PM

My truck has a 4/6 drop if you want to see what that looks like. I don't know how to resize photos, but you can check my build thread below. It's 67 stepper as well.

10-27-2008, 11:42 AM	#1
68Stepbed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 10-Uh-See Posts: 5,609	Gave ECE a call........ I don't spend alot of time complaining about my truck here on the board, but I really just don't like the stance of my truck. I love the way the front sits, but I think it still sits too high in the rear. Everyone I talk to tells me the truck looks great and to leave it alone, but I think they're just being nice. Well, I gave ECE a call and ordered a set of 5" rear drop springs and a Super track bar kit. I'm hoping to acheive the look I've been hoping for. Here's how it looks in the current 3.5/4 drop. The new stuff should be here Friday. I will post photos of the new stance after I get everything installed. __________________ Matt 68 C10 stepside, LS1/700R4, TCI Engineering suspension system Last edited by 68Stepbed; 10-27-2008 at 11:44 AM.

10-27-2008, 11:47 AM	#2
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Sweet hopefully she will come down enough to make ya happy.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

10-27-2008, 11:48 AM	#3
69ShortStep Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canal Winchester, OH Posts: 143	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Your truck is great and I think you will be happy with what your ordered. I love the stance of my stepside after i did the 3.5/5 drop from ECE. I have 275/60/15 on the back and 245/60/15 on the front and it looks perfect to me and did lower the rear just right. Their parts are quality and easy to install too. Hope this picture helps. http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...aw/507web1.jpg Last edited by 69ShortStep; 10-27-2008 at 11:53 AM.

10-27-2008, 01:02 PM	#4
c10crazy Like a Rock! Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,092	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Why didn't you just order their drop blocks and keep your springs?. I've heard it's better (can't remember why) to run a 4" rear spring and then a drop block. Board member Scoti has posted about this in the suspension forum. Sweet truck by the way! __________________ 69 LWB Runs great - work in progress Mess with me and you mess with the whole trailer park!

10-27-2008, 01:37 PM	#5
basketcase Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Edgerton OH USA Posts: 633	Re: Gave ECE a call........ I have ECE 4" springs on mine and I'm thinking I will need at least another inch of drop block to set it where I want it. I still don't have the final wheel/tire package installed yet to tell for sure. The adjustable track bar is a must. Even with just the 4" springs the stock bar is pushing the rear off to the right side by 1 1/2" and is nearly horizonal. The down side to dropped springs is that they are 4" ect. lower compared to new stock springs. When you replace old sagging springs you don't get the drop you thought you were getting. My truck went down about 2" with the 4" springs. I would hate to invest in 5" springs and not see much difference. With a 1" drop block it will go down 1", period. __________________ '69 swb stepside in progress. '59 Corvette lifetime project

10-27-2008, 01:42 PM	#6
Orange Licensed to Thrill! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest, GA Posts: 1,673	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Well, it'd be hard to make your truck look bad. DLB __________________ 1971 GMC.Lowered. Overdrive. Orange. Krue's excellent FAQ Index.

10-27-2008, 02:05 PM	#7
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: Gave ECE a call........ I'm with Orange. It would be very hard to make your truck look bad! I had the same issue with my stepside. it seemed like it didn't drop as much as I wanted it to even with 5" drop springs. Is the stepside bed lighter? metal to wood difference in weight? I don't know. but I have 5" springs and 2" blocks on the back........ and I still haven't needed to C notch yet. anyway, not to hijack. can you post pics after your done, I can't wait to see that beast closer to the Earth! __________________ Doug THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten". The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

10-27-2008, 02:47 PM	#8
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: Gave ECE a call........ It is definetly sitting pretty high on the back, post picts after you install the new stuff. __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

10-27-2008, 04:17 PM	#10
dfosh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: greeneville tn Posts: 237	Re: Gave ECE a call........ I agree i have seen your truck . It dose look awful i could maybe give you 2500 for it. Just kidding . If your truck is the one with the grey custom bench seat that was at the shades this year it looks great. best looking seat i have seen in these trucks . Who did the seat?

10-27-2008, 04:24 PM	#11
OrangeCrush1970 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smyrna, GA Posts: 709	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Throw some sand bags in the bed and squat the rearend to see if you like it any better... __________________ *Rottenwood Garage* 1970...71...72 C1500 aka Orange aka Sideshow Bob 540 BB Straub Roller Cam, AFR Magnums, XP 950, TKO 600 2 Tons of Fun

10-27-2008, 04:24 PM	#12
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Matt, Didn't think about it till I saw the post, even though I read it over on TNCTC. Some of these Super Track bar kits will hit if you use all springs. I have heard some say you need a 1" block just to keep everything from binding. (Hope not) __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

10-27-2008, 05:12 PM	#13
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Personally, I like the way it looks right now. It does gove more of an old school hot rod vibe over a lowrider vibe... but beauty is all in the eye of the beer holder.

10-27-2008, 09:31 PM	#14
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Beautiful truck! I have 4" rear drop springs and I want more I'm adding a 2" block and shock relocators to mine. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

10-27-2008, 09:46 PM	#15
powerbench Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Surrey B.C Posts: 432	Re: Gave ECE a call........ now thats funny longhorn..... ... but beauty is all in the eye of the beer holder.

10-28-2008, 01:15 AM	#16
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10-28-2008, 07:42 AM	#17
68Stepbed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 10-Uh-See Posts: 5,609	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Hey fellas, thanks for all the compliments and remarks. I'll try to answer everyones questions here. I didn't want to use blocks. ECE doesn't sell them or recommend them. Also, the cheapest I've found blocks are $60, which is more than half the price of new springs. ECE is great to work with. The guy I spoke was very nice and was willing to do whatever he could to save me some $$$ I got free shipping which would've been $20 and the super track bar kit comes with new U-bolts which I had already bought for mine, so he took them out of the kit and saved me another $25. dfosh, Wayne's Auto Trim in Morristown did my seat. He had the company that cut the foam save the profile for him so if anyone else wanted a seat done similar, he would have it ready to make. LUV, I hope there isn't any binding. I don't know what other comanies are having problems with, but everyone I've talked to that used the ECE Super track bar havn't had any problems. __________________ Matt 68 C10 stepside, LS1/700R4, TCI Engineering suspension system

10-28-2008, 10:23 AM	#20
dfosh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: greeneville tn Posts: 237	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Thanks for the info . I have always liked the seat . It gives the impression of more room in the cab .

10-28-2008, 05:55 PM	#22
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Gave ECE a call........ Here's another pic of his truck. It does sit nice... Attached Images Last edited by Longhorn Man; 10-28-2008 at 05:57 PM.

10-29-2008, 06:07 AM	#23
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: Gave ECE a call........ The only problems that I'm aware of with the ECE super track bar is when it's combined with a c-notch. Their bar is placed on the back of the trailing arm causing it to hit the frame before your axle bottoms out in the notch. Other long track bars I've seen have been mounted on the inward side of the trailing arm. When mounted this way the axle can move on up in your notch without any problems. Since you're not running a notch you'll have no problems. Looking forward to seeing it come together Matt!

10-29-2008, 11:48 AM	#24
cameeks Long Fleet Club Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deer Park, TX Posts: 5,666	Re: Gave ECE a call........ With a 5" drop in the rear how much travel do you have before hitting the bump stops? Also when you use the 1" drop springs in the front with the spindle is it hard to align? __________________ Chris Meeks '69 Chevy Custom/10 Long Bed <-- Thread of the work I did before selling. Truck is now finished to the new owners design and running around. I was shown some pictures of the finished product. At least it survived the junk yard. FAQ Index by Krue Site Vendors Subscribe Here Forum Rules

10-29-2008, 12:23 PM	#25
whatnow123 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 835	Re: Gave ECE a call........ My truck has a 4/6 drop if you want to see what that looks like. I don't know how to resize photos, but you can check my build thread below. It's 67 stepper as well. __________________ 67 Short Step, 355, 700R 4.11 posi rear, 4/6 drop Discs on all 4 corners. Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=219094 Last edited by whatnow123; 10-29-2008 at 12:23 PM.

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