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RustenPaines · 11-02-2008, 10:58 PM

Loooking to find out what motor you would run my truck

It is a low budget primer black rat rod. 20's front and back. 12bolt rear with posi. Will end up with a 700r4. It currently has a solid 350. Looking for 400 or more hp. I like the zz350 crate and the zz383 for price and power. Although a 572 would be fun. Remember to keep price in mind and please explain your choice.
Kevin

*chevy29267truck* · 11-02-2008, 11:05 PM

you must have the money for the gas well in my 67 chevy truck is a chevy small block but i will be puting in a chevy 292 inline six engine soon

LuckyHenriksen · 11-02-2008, 11:36 PM

Cant beat a 383 for bang for the buck. What part of portland are you in?

Heavy Evy · 11-02-2008, 11:36 PM

383 all the way or a high reving 327

R.L. · 11-03-2008, 03:20 AM

Rat rod, bang for the buck? Another 383 vote. Take the engine thats in the truck now find a crank build the engine with your block, save more money and use the accesories,transmission you allready have.

heavy70 · 11-03-2008, 09:54 AM

Run a 355 flat top motor with vortec heads, RPM dual plane intake, Comps XE274H cam, 650 DP holley...cheap budget motor it will be plenty!!!!

prostreetC-10 · 11-03-2008, 10:15 AM

454.....it's so easy to make super nice power with a BBC. You don't have to put your foot through the firewall to get er to move. 383's are nice but a stroker motor adds $$$. I like tons of low end torque at low RPM's which is where you drive on the street.

coopdeville · 11-03-2008, 11:55 AM

explain the term rat rod.

big_al_71 · 11-03-2008, 12:36 PM

Just went thru making the same descision about two moths ago. I chosed a small block "400".

Ton of power and I dont have to put my foot thru the firewall

**SactoJim** · 11-03-2008, 01:54 PM

You didn't mention your budget, but the ZZ motors are easily in the $4k range.

If you truly think your 350 is a "solid" foundation, just throw a little 142 blower on it and ideally install a blower grind cam. You will have well over 400 hp and used ones are always on Ebay for about 1/2 price of new. Ideally your 350 should have forged pistons, but cast will be fine if your tune is on.

Only drawback is a stock type 700 won't hold up long behind it....nor will it live long behind 400 hp if hammered on.

BP68 · 11-03-2008, 02:28 PM

I've always wanted a 383. But if your motor is solid how about stroking it? Or maybe new cam/heads?

RustenPaines · 11-03-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

454.....it's so easy to make super nice power with a BBC. You don't have to put your foot through the firewall to get er to move. 383's are nice but a stroker motor adds $$$. I like tons of low end torque at low RPM's which is where you drive on the street.

But the zz383 crate is decent power with a good low end.

RustenPaines · 11-03-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by coopdeville

explain the term rat rod.

Rat rod = Primer black. It probably is not a real rat rod with 20's, a complete front end replacemnet and air bags and power brakes but it does ahve and always will have swiss cheese in certain parts of the body.

RustenPaines · 11-03-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big_al_71

Just went thru making the same descision about two moths ago. I chosed a small block "400".

Ton of power and I dont have to put my foot thru the firewall

WOW, thats alot nicer then I am hopping for. I'm a simple guy.

RustenPaines · 11-03-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BP68

I've always wanted a 383. But if your motor is solid how about stroking it? Or maybe new cam/heads?

I like to waste money! LOL, I really don't have good luck with buiding motors myself.

d10s69c10 · 11-03-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

454.....it's so easy to make super nice power with a BBC. You don't have to put your foot through the firewall to get er to move. 383's are nice but a stroker motor adds $$$. I like tons of low end torque at low RPM's which is where you drive on the street.

i agree 454.. No Replacement for Displacement.

PanelDeland · 11-03-2008, 03:32 PM

I like the 383 for 400 HP but you really want to build for torque if it's a street engine.Torque moves you and HP makes you quick.If you really want 400 HP you can get it with a mildly built 400 SBC or if you want interesting stroke a 400.

big_al_71 · 11-03-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

I like the 383 for 400 HP but you really want to build for torque if it's a street engine.Torque moves you and HP makes you quick.If you really want 400 HP you can get it with a mildly built 400 SBC or if you want interesting stroke a 400.

+ 10000!!!!!!

The main reason I did it!!!!!

cdowns · 11-03-2008, 05:17 PM

i'd get a turnkey 383from www.enginefactory.com

**N2TRUX** · 11-03-2008, 08:37 PM

Best bang for the buck on a GM crate motor is the Fast Burn 385

jbarron · 11-03-2008, 08:53 PM

If this is not a daily driver then I'd go big, 400sbc or 454. Your not going to be able to run regular gas with any of the zz motors. Have you looked at any of the 3rd party crate motors? Save the money for pretty chrome things under than dull rat rod hood.

*chevy29267truck* · 11-03-2008, 10:56 PM

yes a chevy 327 engine with 375 or more horse power

DirtyLarry · 11-04-2008, 11:22 AM

I don’t run electric trucks. All my trucks have gasoline engines.

Motors are electric while engines run on fuel!

Sorry, I just had to say that…. Calling an engine a “Motor” is a major pet peeve of mine.

**N2TRUX** · 11-04-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyLarry

.... Calling an engine a “Motor” is a major pet peeve of mine.

So I will assume you ride an enginecycle not a motorcycle. C'mon man get past the terminology.

DirtyLarry · 11-04-2008, 01:12 PM

Just razzing. We don’t hear of an electric engine other than an internet search engines….right? You’re right though, no need to get caught up on incorrect terminology. The motor vs. engine debate has been going on for years and it all started with the electric automobile referred to as the motor car, then motor cycle, etc. I had a college professor that would blow a gasket anytime someone referred to a fuel powered engine as a motor. I work for a truck and engine manufacturer and our engineering staff is the same way. In respect of SAE, we don’t print documents, manuals, or anything in relation to our engines as motors although SAE does use the term motor rather loosely themselves. The folks that refer to engines as motors are all wrong but it is okay…..nobody is taking points off being we are not in the classroom.

11-02-2008, 10:58 PM	#1
RustenPaines Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 286	What Motor would you run?? Loooking to find out what motor you would run my truck It is a low budget primer black rat rod. 20's front and back. 12bolt rear with posi. Will end up with a 700r4. It currently has a solid 350. Looking for 400 or more hp. I like the zz350 crate and the zz383 for price and power. Although a 572 would be fun. Remember to keep price in mind and please explain your choice. Kevin

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chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: What Motor would you run?? you must have the money for the gas well in my 67 chevy truck is a chevy small block but i will be puting in a chevy 292 inline six engine soon

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LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: What Motor would you run?? Cant beat a 383 for bang for the buck. What part of portland are you in? __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

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R.L. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mobile, Al. Posts: 687	Re: What Motor would you run?? Rat rod, bang for the buck? Another 383 vote. Take the engine thats in the truck now find a crank build the engine with your block, save more money and use the accesories,transmission you allready have.

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heavy70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: choctaw, oklahoma Posts: 100	Re: What Motor would you run?? Run a 355 flat top motor with vortec heads, RPM dual plane intake, Comps XE274H cam, 650 DP holley...cheap budget motor it will be plenty!!!!

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prostreetC-10 My Carbon Footprint Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orygun Posts: 5,527	Re: What Motor would you run?? 454.....it's so easy to make super nice power with a BBC. You don't have to put your foot through the firewall to get er to move. 383's are nice but a stroker motor adds $$$. I like tons of low end torque at low RPM's which is where you drive on the street. __________________ A quick "pedalfest" *Still getting loose (carb test)* 496 Initial fire up video!

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big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: What Motor would you run?? Just went thru making the same descision about two moths ago. I chosed a small block "400". Ton of power and I dont have to put my foot thru the firewall Attached Images __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

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SactoJim Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,970	Re: What Motor would you run?? You didn't mention your budget, but the ZZ motors are easily in the $4k range. If you truly think your 350 is a "solid" foundation, just throw a little 142 blower on it and ideally install a blower grind cam. You will have well over 400 hp and used ones are always on Ebay for about 1/2 price of new. Ideally your 350 should have forged pistons, but cast will be fine if your tune is on. Only drawback is a stock type 700 won't hold up long behind it....nor will it live long behind 400 hp if hammered on. Attached Images __________________ 72 Cheyenne SWB Fleet Nut & bolt frame off in progress...99.9999% - supercharged 383 - 4 wheel discs - relocated fuel tank - My Build Thread

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jbarron Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spring, Texas Posts: 167	Re: What Motor would you run?? If this is not a daily driver then I'd go big, 400sbc or 454. Your not going to be able to run regular gas with any of the zz motors. Have you looked at any of the 3rd party crate motors? Save the money for pretty chrome things under than dull rat rod hood. __________________ '72 3/4 Cheyenne Super 402/TH400 Gear Vendors '72 3/4 Cheyenne Super 350/200R4 '50 1/2 Chevy 3 Window



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chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: What Motor would you run?? yes a chevy 327 engine with 375 or more horse power

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DirtyLarry Windy Corner of a Dirty Street Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pueblo West, Colorado Posts: 2,926	Re: What Motor would you run?? Just razzing. We don’t hear of an electric engine other than an internet search engines….right? You’re right though, no need to get caught up on incorrect terminology. The motor vs. engine debate has been going on for years and it all started with the electric automobile referred to as the motor car, then motor cycle, etc. I had a college professor that would blow a gasket anytime someone referred to a fuel powered engine as a motor. I work for a truck and engine manufacturer and our engineering staff is the same way. In respect of SAE, we don’t print documents, manuals, or anything in relation to our engines as motors although SAE does use the term motor rather loosely themselves. The folks that refer to engines as motors are all wrong but it is okay…..nobody is taking points off being we are not in the classroom. __________________ Current vehicle collection: 1978 Chevrolet K10, 8.1L, NV4500, NP205 1989 Chevrolet Suburban, 8.1L, NV4500, NP241 1993 Chevrolet C1500 Sportside, TBI 7.4L, 4L60E 2001 Chevrolet K2500HD, Ext Cab, SWB, 8.1L, ZF 6 speed 2014 Chevrolet Impala LTZ 3.6L Vortec 8.1L because life is too short to tolerate underpowered vehicles Instagram

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