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84 400 · 12-21-2008, 02:34 AM

Wow I feel like a bum asking this but does anybody have an Idea how to open my passenger side door on my 77 K10? The button on the outside will not push in all the way. Same from the inside. I have tried pushing on the door and attempting to push the button and I have also tried pulling and pushing the button. I also have tried the same from the inside of the truck. It is not locked and the lock moved fin up and down. It feels like the button is not going in al the way. WE tried used a broom handle to put extra force on the button but no dice. Because it is closed I can't get the door panal off to get to the guts. It is 15 out right now

and Any tricks or tips would be very helpful. It has never done this before. There is a hole for a speaker in the door panal but I cannot see in side the panal at what i am doing and I am not sure if my arm can reach that far.

Thanks for any tips or tricks.

79gmcc15 · 12-21-2008, 03:49 AM

maybe its frozen? have you tryed some hot water?

S10Fan · 12-21-2008, 08:45 AM

One of these?

Figured you could use a laugh.

oldgmc · 12-21-2008, 10:27 AM

I would try to get it inside 1st the cold can do strange things.
Also try moving the door up and down and pushing in if you can

**old Rusty C10** · 12-21-2008, 10:29 AM

sounds to me like if the water trick dont work the door isnt frozen and youre gonna have to get into the door panel and try pulling ont he metal rods to see if the rods are the problem or the lock itself broke

f.monroe · 12-21-2008, 12:34 PM

Roll the window all the way down and shoot some of your favorite releasing agent(WD-40,etc) at the latch . Let it sit a while then try it again . To get a little force on it , try using both inside and outside handles at the same time .
Frank

*78 Chevyrado* · 12-21-2008, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f.monroe

Roll the window all the way down and shoot some of your favorite releasing agent(WD-40,etc) at the latch . Let it sit a while then try it again . To get a little force on it , try using both inside and outside handles at the same time .
Frank

Read my mind.....

smashingchuck · 12-21-2008, 02:00 PM

It is possible to get the door panel off from the inside with the door closed. I have done it. Once you pop that off just start reaching around in there and you'll find the lever for opening the door.

killacheyenne · 12-21-2008, 04:28 PM

use one of those tools they call the slim jim that slides in from the window down...

Mr79C10 · 12-21-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by S10Fan

One of these?

Figured you could use a laugh.

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it would get you in,,

piecesparts · 12-21-2008, 07:18 PM

Have you tried rolling the window all the way down and running a heavy welding rod down (with a hook on it)and back to the latch rod and pulling it?

84 400 · 12-21-2008, 11:23 PM

Tried pulling both handles at the same time with no luck. I am gonna see what I can rig up tomarrow. looks like 19 is the high... fun

piecesparts · 12-22-2008, 12:17 AM

I'll trade that 19 for my 5 degree wind chill any day.

84 400 · 12-22-2008, 12:50 AM

I hear you piece parts but at least you got a shelter to work in. My hands freeze up quick and it makes wrenching on them no fun. But hey this stuff has to get done....Your and your sons truck are sweet BTW.

piecesparts · 12-22-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 84 400

I hear you piece parts but at least you got a shelter to work in. My hands freeze up quick and it makes wrenching on them no fun. But hey this stuff has to get done....Your and your sons truck are sweet BTW.

Thanks for the compliment. I will still trade temps with you today, though.

87Bob · 12-22-2008, 04:23 PM

Have you tried a hair dryer? I'd warm the area around the rear of the door by the lock mechanism. After I got it good and warm keep moving the key is to warm it as much as you can I'd use the WD-40. If you can move the weatherstrip out of the way I'd let the heat work it's way down to the lock.

84 400 · 12-23-2008, 01:40 AM

Got it open. Reached my hand in and gave a tug on the inside rod. It must have binded up some how. Works fine now.

thanks for all the help.

asphaltburner · 12-23-2008, 02:02 AM

Yo! 84 400! It's that maniac Todd, again!
I suddenly have sorta the same problem with my daily driver '76 Camaro driver door,...I can open it from the outside, but can't get out, once I'm in! My door lock striker was deeply worn, so I replaced the strikers in both doors,...didn't change a thing!
The definitive fix is to pull the door panel in both our cases. I'll be pulling my door panel in the next couple of days (stepwise, due to the cold) and repairing the 32 year old worn parts. What a PITA! But I also have a new OEM window regulator that I need to install in that door, in addition,...so I'll get both projects done at the same time.
Unfortunately, I'm having to drive the friggin' 4x4 Bronco POS in the meantime!
FRANKENTRUCK is on the road, but I sure need some time to re-torque the headbolts on the World heads, and fine tune before I start it on 40 mile/day duty! It's all new stuff.
Glad you got yours working, but pull that panel, replace anything that's badly worn, and lube the moving parts with EP grease,...that'll last a lifetime! I did that with FRANKENTRUCK's doors and they function just like new!
Todd.

**Captkaos** · 12-23-2008, 02:43 PM

Sometimes on these trucks the button gets stuck and you can lock/unlock the door cylinder and it will come loose.

84 400 · 12-25-2008, 01:00 AM

Thanks. Yeah I played with the lock a few times the day before. It was strange like the truck was posessed and just opened... My dad thought maybe some snow or water got frozen inside the handle/ latch.

Todd,
I did lube everything very well with grease. No worn parts tho but the grease sure does make for nice movement. as you said.... like new.

12-21-2008, 02:34 AM	#1
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Opening door?? any ideas Wow I feel like a bum asking this but does anybody have an Idea how to open my passenger side door on my 77 K10? The button on the outside will not push in all the way. Same from the inside. I have tried pushing on the door and attempting to push the button and I have also tried pulling and pushing the button. I also have tried the same from the inside of the truck. It is not locked and the lock moved fin up and down. It feels like the button is not going in al the way. WE tried used a broom handle to put extra force on the button but no dice. Because it is closed I can't get the door panal off to get to the guts. It is 15 out right now and Any tricks or tips would be very helpful. It has never done this before. There is a hole for a speaker in the door panal but I cannot see in side the panal at what i am doing and I am not sure if my arm can reach that far. Thanks for any tips or tricks. __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

12-21-2008, 03:49 AM	#2
79gmcc15 Gettin It One Pice At A Time Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: everett, washington Posts: 2,688	Re: Opening door?? any ideas maybe its frozen? have you tryed some hot water? __________________ RIP ELJAY Work In Progress 1979 GMC C1500 Trailering Special. Getting the truck done, one piece at a time. “You can tell a lot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.”Ronald Reagan “I don’t know the key to success but I know the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby

12-21-2008, 08:45 AM	#3
S10Fan Old Heap Driver Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newport News, Va Posts: 2,642	Re: Opening door?? any ideas One of these? Figured you could use a laugh. Attached Images __________________ _____________________________ Bryan '99 Silverado 1500, 4.3, 5-speed, reg cab, short bed '50 Chevy 2DR Hard Top, 350/350, M2 Front End, 3:08 gear, cruiser. '40 F**d Sedan, all Chevy power, Heidt's front end, TCI rear, nice driver.

12-21-2008, 10:27 AM	#4
oldgmc Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: nj Posts: 54	Re: Opening door?? any ideas I would try to get it inside 1st the cold can do strange things. Also try moving the door up and down and pushing in if you can

12-21-2008, 10:29 AM	#5
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,313	Re: Opening door?? any ideas sounds to me like if the water trick dont work the door isnt frozen and youre gonna have to get into the door panel and try pulling ont he metal rods to see if the rods are the problem or the lock itself broke __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

12-21-2008, 12:34 PM	#6
f.monroe Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Caldwell,Tx. Posts: 3,648	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Roll the window all the way down and shoot some of your favorite releasing agent(WD-40,etc) at the latch . Let it sit a while then try it again . To get a little force on it , try using both inside and outside handles at the same time . Frank __________________ Born and proudly residing in a Red State !

12-21-2008, 02:00 PM	#8
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: Opening door?? any ideas It is possible to get the door panel off from the inside with the door closed. I have done it. Once you pop that off just start reaching around in there and you'll find the lever for opening the door. __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build

12-21-2008, 04:28 PM	#9
killacheyenne Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 153	Re: Opening door?? any ideas use one of those tools they call the slim jim that slides in from the window down... __________________ 72 cheyenne super 83 chevy...4x4...454

12-21-2008, 07:18 PM	#11
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Have you tried rolling the window all the way down and running a heavy welding rod down (with a hook on it)and back to the latch rod and pulling it?

12-21-2008, 11:23 PM	#12
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Tried pulling both handles at the same time with no luck. I am gonna see what I can rig up tomarrow. looks like 19 is the high... fun __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

12-22-2008, 12:17 AM	#13
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Re: Opening door?? any ideas I'll trade that 19 for my 5 degree wind chill any day.

12-22-2008, 12:50 AM	#14
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: Opening door?? any ideas I hear you piece parts but at least you got a shelter to work in. My hands freeze up quick and it makes wrenching on them no fun. But hey this stuff has to get done....Your and your sons truck are sweet BTW. __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

12-22-2008, 04:23 PM	#16
87Bob Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Franklin Indiana Posts: 635	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Have you tried a hair dryer? I'd warm the area around the rear of the door by the lock mechanism. After I got it good and warm keep moving the key is to warm it as much as you can I'd use the WD-40. If you can move the weatherstrip out of the way I'd let the heat work it's way down to the lock. __________________ My Truck's not leaking its marking its territory!

12-23-2008, 01:40 AM	#17
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Got it open. Reached my hand in and gave a tug on the inside rod. It must have binded up some how. Works fine now. thanks for all the help. __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

12-23-2008, 02:02 AM	#18
asphaltburner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ault, Colorado Posts: 862	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Yo! 84 400! It's that maniac Todd, again! I suddenly have sorta the same problem with my daily driver '76 Camaro driver door,...I can open it from the outside, but can't get out, once I'm in! My door lock striker was deeply worn, so I replaced the strikers in both doors,...didn't change a thing! The definitive fix is to pull the door panel in both our cases. I'll be pulling my door panel in the next couple of days (stepwise, due to the cold) and repairing the 32 year old worn parts. What a PITA! But I also have a new OEM window regulator that I need to install in that door, in addition,...so I'll get both projects done at the same time. Unfortunately, I'm having to drive the friggin' 4x4 Bronco POS in the meantime! FRANKENTRUCK is on the road, but I sure need some time to re-torque the headbolts on the World heads, and fine tune before I start it on 40 mile/day duty! It's all new stuff. Glad you got yours working, but pull that panel, replace anything that's badly worn, and lube the moving parts with EP grease,...that'll last a lifetime! I did that with FRANKENTRUCK's doors and they function just like new! Todd. __________________ '78 3/4 ton 4x4 custom "Todd-built" FRANKENTRUCK!



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12-23-2008, 02:43 PM	#19
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Sometimes on these trucks the button gets stuck and you can lock/unlock the door cylinder and it will come loose. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

12-25-2008, 01:00 AM	#20
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: Opening door?? any ideas Thanks. Yeah I played with the lock a few times the day before. It was strange like the truck was posessed and just opened... My dad thought maybe some snow or water got frozen inside the handle/ latch. Todd, I did lube everything very well with grease. No worn parts tho but the grease sure does make for nice movement. as you said.... like new. __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

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