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dhughins · 01-04-2009, 12:42 PM

how have ya'll done it? i need to do it outdoors. i do have a little concrete pad.if i can swap the engine and tranny to my better truck i might have enough motivation to keep it.

2manyprojects · 01-04-2009, 01:05 PM

I wouldn't recommend it. Doing that will turn a few hour job into a days long nightmare. You would have to take the engine apart and separate the trans to get the weight down enough to even lift it. Go to a tool rental place and rent a engine hoist for a weekend, or even find a strong aframe and hook a come along to it if you have to. Get everything loose pick up the engine and trans in one piece and roll the truck to get it out.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 01-04-2009, 01:17 PM

i think you can buy a hoist for like $99 now. Would be enough to lift a small block. After you are done you could sell it for $50 and if it takes you a week it will be cheaper then renting one. Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr See if there is a board member near by that might have one that can help you out.

TimE · 01-04-2009, 04:46 PM

Gotta any big trees with strong, low limbs? That and a come-a-long(sp?). Done it this way a long time ago...

**scotts62** · 01-04-2009, 05:03 PM

Now just how buff are you

Its all fun and games until you get to the block itself unless its stripped too but its still no fun..
Id try as Tim suggested, but i would find an oak tree then maybe if it did break you may not suffer as long

pulltilbroke · 01-04-2009, 06:08 PM

Do you have a friend with a tractor with a loader or a fork lift?

I've used all methods available except the disassemble and remove piece by piece that don't soud like too much fun

A fork lift or loader tractor is an extremly versitile shop tool

**Chevy Fleetside** · 01-04-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pulltilbroke

Do you have a friend with a tractor with a loader or a fork lift?

I've used all methods available except the disassemble and remove piece by piece that don't soud like too much fun

A fork lift or loader tractor is an extremly versitile shop tool

Kinda like this but use it on the engine.

*LILRED66* · 01-04-2009, 06:54 PM

You might consider posting an ad on craigs list for a temporary use of an engine hoist. You never know, you may find a generous person in your area that likes to wrench and help others with their projects. I would loan you mine, but I am a long way from Ozark, AL.

Good luck and let us know what you do.

68K20 x Drill · 01-04-2009, 06:56 PM

1tractor
2 tree
3 one large post across your lumber rack crosswise under the rails at the middle One long large post over the back of the rack lengthwise, with the forward end under the crosswise post so as to create a boom.
Be sure the rack is well attached, once you hang a come along and motor off the high end, it is going to be under a lot of strain. I did a Lincoln 462 with trans this way, but my rack was really beefy.
obviously, something might break, so don't be under the motor.

joe231 · 01-04-2009, 06:58 PM

renting is cheap and safe

jason65 · 01-04-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231

renting is cheap and safe

Ya but if he uses a tree we all could be looking at some hold my beer and watch this pics.

pulltilbroke · 01-04-2009, 07:05 PM

Kinda like this but use it on the engine.

Yep, A fork lift also makes an awsome high lift jack

joe231 · 01-04-2009, 07:15 PM

dhughins · 01-04-2009, 07:48 PM

thanks for the ideas. i'll start asking around to find someone with a hoist. who's the closest to ozark, al. 36360

jason65 · 01-04-2009, 07:51 PM

I'd go to the clubs forum and look in your regin.

**ChiefRocka** · 01-04-2009, 08:55 PM

No sweat....myself and one other buddy did it to a big-block......

Big-Block Samurai engine that is !!

Seriously, you must do this safely...borrow, buy cheap, or rent a picker bro...

Take the above advice !!

joe231 · 01-04-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

No sweat....myself and one other buddy did it to a big-block......

Big-Block Samurai engine that is !!

Seriously, you must do this safely...borrow, buy cheap, or rent a picker bro...

Take the above advice !!

years ago i pulled a short block 4 cylinder out of a sidekick by hooking a strap to it and just physically lifting it out by myself

Imperial Kustom · 01-04-2009, 10:11 PM

Two of my buddies did a smallblock into a '63 by bolting on the headers and lifting it in. They said id sucked and never try it. Another buddy and me took a 2.8 out of an S-10 with a ladder, a 2X6, and the golf bag strap from a golf cart. It worked and was really funny.

TimE · 01-04-2009, 10:47 PM

Another suggestion is a "boom pole" on the back of a tractor. Used this method to pick up the frontend of a crusher bound vehicle to get the trailer under it.

I'm 150+ miles from you.

**scotts62** · 01-04-2009, 10:58 PM

this is getting bad, Hey man be safe dont listen to all this funny stuff!

I agree borrow of some sort

joe231 · 01-04-2009, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imperial Kustom

Two of my buddies did a smallblock into a '63 by bolting on the headers and lifting it in. They said id sucked and never try it. Another buddy and me took a 2.8 out of an S-10 with a ladder, a 2X6, and the golf bag strap from a golf cart. It worked and was really funny.

wish you had pics of that

krue · 01-04-2009, 11:11 PM

Where is Ozark? Nevermind I looked it up and you're a few hours from here. If you have a tree with a stout limb within reach a chainfall hung from it does wonders. I've actually pulled the engine out of a Freightliner like this, but it was a huge oak and a large chainfall.

**TR65** · 01-04-2009, 11:27 PM

I know you said outside but...

I used to do it this way before I got an engine hoist.

Scab a couple of 2X8's together and suspend them from the joists of a garage or basement. When it is time to lift something, put jack posts under each end, and use the old come-a-long.

On second thought, beg, borrow, or steal the engine hoist.

TR

pulltilbroke · 01-04-2009, 11:54 PM

Ahh yes the boom pole it works but can be a bit jumpy

krue · 01-05-2009, 12:04 AM

I made a boom pole for my tractor using an engine hoist, I get the best of both worlds, I use the tractor controls for the heavy lifting and the handle for the fine tuning.

01-04-2009, 12:42 PM	#1
dhughins Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ozark, al Posts: 583	how to swap engines without hoist? how have ya'll done it? i need to do it outdoors. i do have a little concrete pad.if i can swap the engine and tranny to my better truck i might have enough motivation to keep it.

01-04-2009, 01:05 PM	#2
2manyprojects Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 670	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? I wouldn't recommend it. Doing that will turn a few hour job into a days long nightmare. You would have to take the engine apart and separate the trans to get the weight down enough to even lift it. Go to a tool rental place and rent a engine hoist for a weekend, or even find a strong aframe and hook a come along to it if you have to. Get everything loose pick up the engine and trans in one piece and roll the truck to get it out. __________________ 65 Chevy C10 Panel http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=7148391 42 Chevy 3100http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...92#post7184392 96 GMC K2500 Diesel Suburban 89 GTA Trans Am Convertible.

01-04-2009, 01:17 PM	#3
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,782	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? i think you can buy a hoist for like $99 now. Would be enough to lift a small block. After you are done you could sell it for $50 and if it takes you a week it will be cheaper then renting one. Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr See if there is a board member near by that might have one that can help you out. __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

01-04-2009, 04:46 PM	#4
TimE Hey Y'all!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Minette, Alabama Posts: 1,755	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Gotta any big trees with strong, low limbs? That and a come-a-long(sp?). Done it this way a long time ago...

01-04-2009, 05:03 PM	#5
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Now just how buff are you Its all fun and games until you get to the block itself unless its stripped too but its still no fun.. Id try as Tim suggested, but i would find an oak tree then maybe if it did break you may not suffer as long __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62 Last edited by scotts62; 01-04-2009 at 05:05 PM.

01-04-2009, 06:08 PM	#6
pulltilbroke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagle Ne Posts: 356	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Do you have a friend with a tractor with a loader or a fork lift? I've used all methods available except the disassemble and remove piece by piece that don't soud like too much fun A fork lift or loader tractor is an extremly versitile shop tool __________________ 60 4x4,235,SM420,Rockwell T221,D44/HO33 sold 4/12 67 C-20,292,SM420,HO72 90 Dodge W250 Cummins,NV4500HD,205,D60/D80 93 Dodge W350 Dually Cummins, Getrag, 205,D60/D70

01-04-2009, 06:54 PM	#8
LILRED66 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 3,906	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? You might consider posting an ad on craigs list for a temporary use of an engine hoist. You never know, you may find a generous person in your area that likes to wrench and help others with their projects. I would loan you mine, but I am a long way from Ozark, AL. Good luck and let us know what you do.

01-04-2009, 06:56 PM	#9
68K20 x Drill Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Freedom CA Posts: 488	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? 1tractor 2 tree 3 one large post across your lumber rack crosswise under the rails at the middle One long large post over the back of the rack lengthwise, with the forward end under the crosswise post so as to create a boom. Be sure the rack is well attached, once you hang a come along and motor off the high end, it is going to be under a lot of strain. I did a Lincoln 462 with trans this way, but my rack was really beefy. obviously, something might break, so don't be under the motor. __________________ 68 Chevrolet k20 Longbed 350 SM465/205, Dana 44, 14bolt, Power steering, Power Disk Brakes, 35" BFGs. 84 Chevrolet Suburban K20 6.2 Banks turbo TH400/NP208 Now with G80 68 GMC C20 Parts? Truck And a few cars

01-04-2009, 06:58 PM	#10
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01-04-2009, 07:05 PM	#12
pulltilbroke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagle Ne Posts: 356	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Kinda like this but use it on the engine. Yep, A fork lift also makes an awsome high lift jack __________________ 60 4x4,235,SM420,Rockwell T221,D44/HO33 sold 4/12 67 C-20,292,SM420,HO72 90 Dodge W250 Cummins,NV4500HD,205,D60/D80 93 Dodge W350 Dually Cummins, Getrag, 205,D60/D70

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01-04-2009, 07:48 PM	#14
dhughins Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ozark, al Posts: 583	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? thanks for the ideas. i'll start asking around to find someone with a hoist. who's the closest to ozark, al. 36360 Last edited by dhughins; 01-04-2009 at 07:48 PM.

01-04-2009, 07:51 PM	#15
jason65 Registerd User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,118	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? I'd go to the clubs forum and look in your regin.

01-04-2009, 08:55 PM	#16
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? No sweat....myself and one other buddy did it to a big-block...... Big-Block Samurai engine that is !! Seriously, you must do this safely...borrow, buy cheap, or rent a picker bro... Take the above advice !! __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

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01-04-2009, 10:47 PM	#19
TimE Hey Y'all!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Minette, Alabama Posts: 1,755	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Another suggestion is a "boom pole" on the back of a tractor. Used this method to pick up the frontend of a crusher bound vehicle to get the trailer under it. I'm 150+ miles from you.

01-04-2009, 10:58 PM	#20
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? this is getting bad, Hey man be safe dont listen to all this funny stuff! I agree borrow of some sort __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

01-04-2009, 11:11 PM	#22
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Where is Ozark? Nevermind I looked it up and you're a few hours from here. If you have a tree with a stout limb within reach a chainfall hung from it does wonders. I've actually pulled the engine out of a Freightliner like this, but it was a huge oak and a large chainfall. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

01-04-2009, 11:27 PM	#23
TR65 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 873	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? I know you said outside but... I used to do it this way before I got an engine hoist. Scab a couple of 2X8's together and suspend them from the joists of a garage or basement. When it is time to lift something, put jack posts under each end, and use the old come-a-long. On second thought, beg, borrow, or steal the engine hoist. TR Attached Images __________________ 1965 C10 SWB Fleet Two owner LS2 Swap Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=413880

01-04-2009, 11:54 PM	#24
pulltilbroke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagle Ne Posts: 356	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? Ahh yes the boom pole it works but can be a bit jumpy __________________ 60 4x4,235,SM420,Rockwell T221,D44/HO33 sold 4/12 67 C-20,292,SM420,HO72 90 Dodge W250 Cummins,NV4500HD,205,D60/D80 93 Dodge W350 Dually Cummins, Getrag, 205,D60/D70

01-05-2009, 12:04 AM	#25
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: how to swap engines without hoist? I made a boom pole for my tractor using an engine hoist, I get the best of both worlds, I use the tractor controls for the heavy lifting and the handle for the fine tuning. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

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