Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**lolife99** · 02-12-2009, 01:19 PM

I'm installing 71-72 Spindles on my '69 swb.
I'd like to run the original cross link and inner tie rods,... but know I need to swap to the 71-72 outer tie rods.
Here's my question. Are the 71-72 outer tie rods the same diameter as the 73-87 outers?
This conversion sleeve is offered by Performance On Line. (part# HPAS6370)

http://www.performanceonline.com/sto...cat=787&page=1

Can I use these with my 71-72 outers? Or will 73-87 outers work in a 71-72 spindle?

**raggedjim** · 02-13-2009, 10:49 AM

The adjusting sleeves for a 1971-72 is the same as the sleeve for a 73-87 (the tie rods are different but have the same threads).

The 73 up outers will not fit the 71-72 spindle arm. I think the taper or maybe the thread length is different, can't remember off the top of my head. I used 73 up drop spindles on my truck because they were cheaper for some reason...

I double checked this on Autozones website.

Rg

**lolife99** · 02-13-2009, 12:02 PM

raggedjim,...THANK YOU very much. That's what I need to know.

**raggedjim** · 02-13-2009, 12:24 PM

Have you bought the adapters yet? If not I can probably save you some money... I know these can be bought at most places for about $49 but this place builds race car stuff and makes those adapters for $14 each.

Just call and talk to Randy. Make sure to tell him the 11/16-18 is RH (right hand) and the 5/8-18 is left hand. The length for these trucks is 5-1/4"

One thing no one tells you is you have to use the 65-70 OUTER as the INNER or you will end up with 2 ends that have RH threads (they won't adjust that way!)

http://www.dcaracing.com/cat_steering.html

Rg

**lolife99** · 02-13-2009, 12:49 PM

Wow,... I'm 22 minutes too late. (my luck)
I already have them coming.

Good info for everyone else though.

68 short step · 02-22-2009, 12:01 AM

good info in this thread

rookierodbuilder · 02-22-2009, 02:31 AM

I wish I could run across a deal like that just on the huge u bolts I need for my 66 trailing arms

**lolife99** · 03-14-2009, 10:00 PM

Update:
I went to install the adapter sleeves today from POL.
I'm using 71-72 drop spindles on my 69 disc brake swap.
I purchased 71-72 outer tie rods and 69 inner tie rods.
Heres the problem.
71-72 outers are RH thread.
69 inners are ALSO RH thread.
So I guess I have to purchase 69 outers and use them as inner tie rods so the will be LH thread and adjust properly.
I wish POL would have had this info on their website. NOT a big deal,... just a waste of money and a set back on todays progress.

texanidiot25 · 03-14-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

So I guess I have to purchase 69 outers and use them as inner tie rods so the will be LH thread and adjust properly.

Had to do this on mine too, but with 73-87 outters instead. We just thought that someone replaced the tierods backwards at some point in the past 40 years

**lolife99** · 03-14-2009, 10:44 PM

73-87 outers are the same thread size as 71-72 outers.
I checked my old tie rod ends to confirm that I needed to do this.

fatboys69 · 03-15-2009, 04:08 PM

Didn't think the 69 rod end diameters were different than the 71-72 ?? I know the taper is different, are the threads also ?? I used McGoheys 71-72 drop spindles.Just wondering ! THANKS IN ADVANCE

**lolife99** · 03-15-2009, 05:53 PM

I believe the 69 is 5/8" diameter and the 71-72 is 11/16" diameter. I'm also using 71-72 McGaughy's drop spindles on my 69.

Mine is also a non-power steering, 6-cylinder truck.

fatboys69 · 03-15-2009, 06:17 PM

so is each end tapped accordingly ( 5/8 1 end and 11/16 on the other ??)

**lolife99** · 03-15-2009, 06:26 PM

YES.
The 11/16" end is RH thread,... and the 5/8" end is LH thread.

They also sell "stock replacement" sleeves, if you just want the "looks" of these sleeves.

fatboys69 · 03-16-2009, 05:09 PM

Thanks for the info !!!! Been wanting to do something other than stock looking. I'll have to give them a try.

68C10HotRod · 03-17-2009, 12:29 AM

Glad I caught this post as I'm swapping '93 LD 3/4T spindles onto my '68 C10. Started checking all ends for both years & discovered the '68 has one LH & one RH thread outer in the 5/8". The '93 donor has 11/16" RH on both.

Looks like I'll be swapping Inner & Outer on one side before I can complete this deal.

Raggedjim,
Thanks for the info on the cheaper sleeves. Hope I can get them sent out tomorrow to wrap this up & start driving her soon.

**raggedjim** · 03-17-2009, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68C10HotRod

Glad I caught this post as I'm swapping '93 LD 3/4T spindles onto my '68 C10. Started checking all ends for both years & discovered the '68 has one LH & one RH thread outer in the 5/8". The '93 donor has 11/16" RH on both.

Looks like I'll be swapping Inner & Outer on one side before I can complete this deal.

Raggedjim,
Thanks for the info on the cheaper sleeves. Hope I can get them sent out tomorrow to wrap this up & start driving her soon.

No problem, make sure you get the right threads, I wrote what I wrote from memory, but I know they can make them however you want them...

Rg

Tim R · 03-17-2009, 12:48 PM

I just put 73 spindles on mine Another difference is that the 73 outer tie rod is longer . I had to shorten the outer 3/4 of an inch to be able to get the tie rods to shorten up enough to get the toe back into alignment Tim

ulakovic22 · 03-17-2009, 02:26 PM

This is too funny, I couldn't find this thread when I did this so I ended up making another thread in the Suspension forum.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=332740

jmlcolorado · 04-06-2011, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raggedjim

Have you bought the adapters yet? If not I can probably save you some money... I know these can be bought at most places for about $49 but this place builds race car stuff and makes those adapters for $14 each.

Just call and talk to Randy. Make sure to tell him the 11/16-18 is RH (right hand) and the 5/8-18 is left hand. The length for these trucks is 5-1/4"

One thing no one tells you is you have to use the 65-70 OUTER as the INNER or you will end up with 2 ends that have RH threads (they won't adjust that way!)

http://www.dcaracing.com/cat_steering.html

Rg

YOU just saved me a bit of dough! THANKS!!

z10kl · 10-12-2011, 07:33 PM

Is the place that makes the sleeves still in business. The link doesn't work for me.

**lolife99** · 10-12-2011, 07:42 PM

Www.performanceonline.com
Posted via Mobile Device

z10kl · 10-12-2011, 07:53 PM

I found them.
http://dcaracefab.com/dca-cart/

SouthpawGarage · 12-29-2014, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z10kl

I found them.
http://dcaracefab.com/dca-cart/

I realize this thread is really old, but I just wanted to note that they are still open and still making sleeves. They've gone up to $19 each. Total cost for both, shipped to Florida, was $50. Not the bargain it once was, but they appear to be a good quality part. I bought these rather than the anodized aluminum ones CPP sells, because these are steel.

dirtyjim · 12-30-2014, 09:27 AM

I think you can use late astro van inner tie rods with the 73+ outer and adjuster and use all off the shelf parts. I haven't verified it but it should work

02-12-2009, 01:19 PM	#1
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... I'm installing 71-72 Spindles on my '69 swb. I'd like to run the original cross link and inner tie rods,... but know I need to swap to the 71-72 outer tie rods. Here's my question. Are the 71-72 outer tie rods the same diameter as the 73-87 outers? This conversion sleeve is offered by Performance On Line. (part# HPAS6370) http://www.performanceonline.com/sto...cat=787&page=1 Can I use these with my 71-72 outers? Or will 73-87 outers work in a 71-72 spindle? Attached Images __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 02-12-2009 at 01:21 PM.

02-13-2009, 10:49 AM	#2
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,477	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... The adjusting sleeves for a 1971-72 is the same as the sleeve for a 73-87 (the tie rods are different but have the same threads). The 73 up outers will not fit the 71-72 spindle arm. I think the taper or maybe the thread length is different, can't remember off the top of my head. I used 73 up drop spindles on my truck because they were cheaper for some reason... I double checked this on Autozones website. Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Last edited by raggedjim; 02-13-2009 at 10:51 AM.

02-13-2009, 12:02 PM	#3
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... raggedjim,...THANK YOU very much. That's what I need to know. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

02-13-2009, 12:24 PM	#4
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,477	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Have you bought the adapters yet? If not I can probably save you some money... I know these can be bought at most places for about $49 but this place builds race car stuff and makes those adapters for $14 each. Just call and talk to Randy. Make sure to tell him the 11/16-18 is RH (right hand) and the 5/8-18 is left hand. The length for these trucks is 5-1/4" One thing no one tells you is you have to use the 65-70 OUTER as the INNER or you will end up with 2 ends that have RH threads (they won't adjust that way!) http://www.dcaracing.com/cat_steering.html Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Last edited by raggedjim; 03-17-2009 at 01:32 PM. Reason: Corrected and added info...

02-13-2009, 12:49 PM	#5
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Wow,... I'm 22 minutes too late. (my luck) I already have them coming. Good info for everyone else though. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

02-22-2009, 12:01 AM	#6
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... good info in this thread

02-22-2009, 02:31 AM	#7
rookierodbuilder Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sharpsburg, Ky. Posts: 110	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... I wish I could run across a deal like that just on the huge u bolts I need for my 66 trailing arms

03-14-2009, 10:00 PM	#8
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Update: I went to install the adapter sleeves today from POL. I'm using 71-72 drop spindles on my 69 disc brake swap. I purchased 71-72 outer tie rods and 69 inner tie rods. Heres the problem. 71-72 outers are RH thread. 69 inners are ALSO RH thread. So I guess I have to purchase 69 outers and use them as inner tie rods so the will be LH thread and adjust properly. I wish POL would have had this info on their website. NOT a big deal,... just a waste of money and a set back on todays progress. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 03-14-2009 at 10:02 PM.

03-14-2009, 10:44 PM	#10
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... 73-87 outers are the same thread size as 71-72 outers. I checked my old tie rod ends to confirm that I needed to do this. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

03-15-2009, 04:08 PM	#11
fatboys69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dayton, Tennessee Posts: 447	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Didn't think the 69 rod end diameters were different than the 71-72 ?? I know the taper is different, are the threads also ?? I used McGoheys 71-72 drop spindles.Just wondering ! THANKS IN ADVANCE

03-15-2009, 05:53 PM	#12
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... I believe the 69 is 5/8" diameter and the 71-72 is 11/16" diameter. I'm also using 71-72 McGaughy's drop spindles on my 69. Mine is also a non-power steering, 6-cylinder truck. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 03-15-2009 at 06:07 PM.

03-15-2009, 06:17 PM	#13
fatboys69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dayton, Tennessee Posts: 447	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... so is each end tapped accordingly ( 5/8 1 end and 11/16 on the other ??)

03-15-2009, 06:26 PM	#14
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... YES. The 11/16" end is RH thread,... and the 5/8" end is LH thread. They also sell "stock replacement" sleeves, if you just want the "looks" of these sleeves. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 03-15-2009 at 06:27 PM.

03-16-2009, 05:09 PM	#15
fatboys69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dayton, Tennessee Posts: 447	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Thanks for the info !!!! Been wanting to do something other than stock looking. I'll have to give them a try.

03-17-2009, 12:29 AM	#16
68C10HotRod Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Omaha, NE 68144 Posts: 333	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Glad I caught this post as I'm swapping '93 LD 3/4T spindles onto my '68 C10. Started checking all ends for both years & discovered the '68 has one LH & one RH thread outer in the 5/8". The '93 donor has 11/16" RH on both. Looks like I'll be swapping Inner & Outer on one side before I can complete this deal. Raggedjim, Thanks for the info on the cheaper sleeves. Hope I can get them sent out tomorrow to wrap this up & start driving her soon. __________________ Bryan '52 Bel Air 2dr HT - in pieces '68 C10 - 6cyl/4spd REMOVED, LT1/T56 to be installed “Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.” - Benjamin Franklin "And those who know what's best for us, Must rise and save us from ourselves" - RUSH lyric (mockery)



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03-17-2009, 12:48 PM	#18
Tim R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: bmt,tx Posts: 127	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... I just put 73 spindles on mine Another difference is that the 73 outer tie rod is longer . I had to shorten the outer 3/4 of an inch to be able to get the tie rods to shorten up enough to get the toe back into alignment Tim

03-17-2009, 02:26 PM	#19
ulakovic22 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lantana, TX Posts: 419	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... This is too funny, I couldn't find this thread when I did this so I ended up making another thread in the Suspension forum. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=332740

10-12-2011, 07:33 PM	#21
z10kl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: denver nc Posts: 97	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Is the place that makes the sleeves still in business. The link doesn't work for me. __________________ 70 CST Bunch of old Camaros

10-12-2011, 07:42 PM	#22
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... Www.performanceonline.com Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

10-12-2011, 07:53 PM	#23
z10kl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: denver nc Posts: 97	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... I found them. http://dcaracefab.com/dca-cart/ __________________ 70 CST Bunch of old Camaros

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dirtyjim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: alvin, texas Posts: 622	Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,... I think you can use late astro van inner tie rods with the 73+ outer and adjuster and use all off the shelf parts. I haven't verified it but it should work __________________ 1967 C10 lwb two tone, 305 & rat fink style floor shifted 700r4, 20" steelies 2004 2500HD utility bed aka Brutus

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