BBC vs SBC

[mainermikeyd]

ok guys need your opinions on my build!!! My current truck 82 k20 aka Big Red has a 350 gm crate motor(1992 target master) with TH350/NP205 nothing real fancy but it does the job i.e. burnouts, mud runs, ect. BUT I have a 86 crew cab c3500 I bought for $800 with a 454, TH400 thats in great shape, can't find a buyer on it so I'm thinking about ripping all I need off, an junking the rest, it's a shame cuz this truck is in great shape!! The frame I just purchased I am going to build from the frame up, it will be a show truck/DD/weekend mudder, so I need help in deciding which way to go. I am keeping both trucks, one will be just to scare the sh*t out of everyone at the street light the other more for the oohs an ahhhs!!!

[tvblazer78]

The crew would be sweet with all that done to it as you know you don't see a lot of them up in the air with a BB.. That's what I would do..

[74 C-30]

if youre going swap in the 454 and TH400, you know theres going to be a bit of cost involved to put the NP205 on the 2wd transmission, right?

like tvblazer said i think a well done crew cab would be cool, with quite some lift to it, lotsa chrome, and a stout big block.

if you put a bit of work into that 350, it'll scare the hell out of most people easy enough

just my 2 cents

[Joe67]

"No replacement for displacement"

[b454rat]

If I had $800 I'd buy the crew off yah. I want one really bad...

[pokethesmot]

if i had some money ide buy the crew off ya take the motor out put in my truck and part out the crew cab lol

[mrbigshot]

Originally Posted by pokethesmot

if i had some money ide buy the crew off ya take the motor out put in my truck and part out the crew cab lol

+1, i dont know what your guys hangups with crews are. i think there fugly. buy a blazer if you got more buddies that have to go with.

[tvblazer78]

He asked so we are telling him what we would do...

[b454rat]

I hate Blazers, I think they are fugly. Everybody builds one, why not do something other than what the bandwagon does?? Besides, I'd like to haul stuff along with having buddy's going for a ride....

[f.monroe]

Originally Posted by b454rat

I hate Blazers, I think they are fugly. Everybody builds one, why not do something other than what the bandwagon does?? Besides, I'd like to haul stuff along with having buddy's going for a ride....

I think that everyone on the bandwagon is actually building trucks . Blazers arent built as often . I actually like all GM truck based products . Crews, Blazers, Trucks long and short . I would not try to offend any board member by saying a particular vehicle is " fugly ". As to the question posted , building the 86 vintage 454 into a street screamer will take up a good bit of your cash because of the restrictive heads they came with . If you intend to use the engine , plan on just the short block and replace the top end . If that is in the budget , go for it .
Frank

[mainermikeyd]

Thanks for that input i appreciate it f.onroe that is good info!!! Would you recommend any specific head package???

[78 Chevyrado]

Where's the blazer band wagon? I think SWB pickups is the bandwagon EVERYbody's on. I haven't seen ANY blazers in quite a while around here that weren't beat the crap out of. but there's lots of swb pickups.

I like big blocks if you want wow factor, just say to yourself, small-block. ok now say BIG BLOCK. sounds better doesn't it. a lot of people want to see the small blocks, bout everybody want to check out the big block. The only thing for the small blocks are less weight and more mileage.

[f.monroe]

781 castings are a large oval port design that work well in a mild big block application . They flow well enough for a nice street/strip application and can be found on the internet at pretty good prices.
Frank

[tvblazer78]

Originally Posted by b454rat

I hate Blazers, I think they are fugly. Everybody builds one, why not do something other than what the bandwagon does?? Besides, I'd like to haul stuff along with having buddy's going for a ride....

We are not here to put people down or their rides. Please think of others

Thanks,
Trav

[632bbc]

Originally Posted by Joe67

"No replacement for displacement"

I second that!!!!

[onlyifihadachevy]

Originally Posted by tvblazer78

We are not here to put people down or their rides. Please think of others

Thanks,
Trav

I got a question do you say that because you own a blazer or because your a moderator?

And why did you put down the blazer their cool, i want a 67-72 one but i also want to own a 73-87, mainly older than 1976 because 75 is the last smog free year in ca.

And everyone that builds a blazer messes them up by doing something dumb, and every blazer seems to be a lot different.

If you can put the big block in the k20 but ifs its your dd/mud/show/burnout truck remember that a big block may put a little to much power to the ground. in the mud, you could possibly break axles. But it will be sick if you build it.

[bigblazerboy]

a nicely built up crew cab would look sick. i would stick with the bb in it.

as far as bandwagon, short bed is the "hot" thing right now. everyone is making lwb into swb. i like any gm or gmc truck lwb or swb, blazer, burban.

[LONGHAIR]

Originally Posted by tvblazer78

We are not here to put people down or their rides. Please think of others

Thanks,
Trav

Originally Posted by onlyifihadachevy

I got a question do you say that because you own a blazer or because your a moderator?

How about "Just because it is correct?" We are NOT here to put down people, just to help each other or learn from each other.

[b454rat]

I didn't mean to put anyone down, I was just replying to what mybigshot said. I'm a 4wd guy, and Blazers are all over the place. People build them up for crawling and what not. If your building a 2wd Blazer, that is cool, cause there aren't really any around here. Go big block....

[tvblazer78]

Originally Posted by b454rat

I didn't mean to put anyone down, I was just replying to what mybigshot said. I'm a 4wd guy, and Blazers are all over the place. People build them up for crawling and what not. If your building a 2wd Blazer, that is cool, cause there aren't really any around here. Go big block....

I was just getting on top of it before it got out of hand.. It's all good...

[red caddy]

If I had my 'druthers, I'd leave the BB in the crew, clean it up and drive it. Can't beat a crew for long towing in style and comfort. A BB, especially if you stuff it full of go fast parts, ain't gonna MPG very well anyway, so you might as well go for comfort and style. (although, I towed a lot with my '77 'burb. Wife, kids and a 26 Ft boat. The kids slept in the back of the burb, me and SWMBO had the "stateroom" on or off the trailer.

If you stuff the (warmed over ) BB in the mudder, the performance will be impressive, but the added weight on the front (around 300 lbs.) will change the balance, tracking and steering effort. Talk to the BB mudder guys, there are things you can do to help in the mud.

BTW, I've got a fresh set of Gen 6 Vortec heads that will wake up that 454, Edelbrock makes a manifold to stay carbed with the vortec's for around $200 bucks, if you decide to go with iron heads, this is the cheap way to monster torque and reliability. RED