1960 front suspension swap

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Im planning on doing a front suspension swap on my '60 for a bag set-up, discs, and possibly power steering.
I have read on here about what year's will work as far as an "almost" direct bolt-in swap.

my question is, does it make any difference if the "new" suspension/core support is off of a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?

any other advice/warning will be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance.
Chris

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by MMM...BRAINS...

Im planning on doing a front suspension swap on my '60 for a bag set-up, discs, and possibly power steering.
I have read on here about what year's will work as far as an "almost" direct bolt-in swap.

my question is, does it make any difference if the "new" suspension/core support is off of a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?

any other advice/warning will be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance.
Chris

The core suports are the same no mater the tonnage.

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thats what i needed.
thanks

Originally Posted by 502tripower

The core suports are the same no mater the tonnage.

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

The core suports are the same no mater the tonnage.

Agreed......I don't quite understand what the core support has to do with swapping a front suspension.

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

Agreed......I don't quite understand what the core support has to do with swapping a front suspension.

i'm trying to swap my torsion set-up for a later model spring style set-up. take the entire front suspension w core support and un-bolt old,....bolt in new...

[joe231]

the core support is the piece that holds the radiator
AKA radiator support.

part number 5 in this pic

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[quote=joe231;3204546]the core support is the piece that holds the radiator
AKA radiator support.

sorry, maybe i'm using the wrong word to describe what i mean...
this is what i'm talking about...
right or wrong i've always known this as the core supprt and referred to what you're pointing out as the rad. support/saddle.
doesn't mean that i'm right tho.

[502tripower]

The Item that you have circled is the front suspension crossmember. Still the C20 crossmember is the same as C10. You can use the C20 A-arms but if you wish to swap to 5X5 you will need the C10 spindles and brakes. The core support is the item that Joe pointed out.

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Cool. well, thanks for correcting me, you learn something new everyday.
one other question, i assume that the suspension crossmember is different for torsion bar and reaguler springs?

thanks again guys!
i appreciate it!

Originally Posted by 502tripower

The Item that you have circled is the front suspension crossmember. Still the C20 crossmember is the same as C10. You can use the C20 A-arms but if you wish to swap to 5X5 you will need the C10 spindles and brakes. The core support is the item that Joe pointed out.

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

The Item that you have circled is the front suspension crossmember. Still the C20 crossmember is the same as C10. You can use the C20 A-arms but if you wish to swap to 5X5 you will need the C10 spindles and brakes. The core support is the item that Joe pointed out.

The C20 lower control arms have a larger hole for a larger ball joint, so I don't believe you could use a C10 spindle with a C20 LCA. Corect me if I'm wrong.

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

The C20 lower control arms have a larger hole for a larger ball joint, so I don't believe you could use a C10 spindle with a C20 LCA. Corect me if I'm wrong.

One of my buddies said he used the C20 suspension with the C10 spindles but, if he remembers correctly that the C20 lower control arm dose have a larger bore but that the taper on the ball joint is the same as C10 and he was able to use the C10 spindles. That also was on 73 up suspension with the rubber bushings. That was fifteen years ago so guess we need to verify.

[jason65]

I took the lower control arms off of a 69c10 and put my cross shafts in them and balljoints for a 84c10. The upper was no problem the 84 joint went right in. It's the idler are that gave me trouble. I forgot what year I had to use for that. But I had to lower the mount and drill out new holes.

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

One of my buddies said he used the C20 suspension with the C10 spindles but, if he remembers correctly that the C20 lower control arm dose have a larger bore but that the taper on the ball joint is the same as C10 and he was able to use the C10 spindles. That also was on 73 up suspension with the rubber bushings. That was fifteen years ago so guess we need to verify.

I'm curious what spindle he used, or if he reamed the lower hole in a C10 spindle. To my knowledge the C20 lower ball joints had a larger taper than a C10 lower ball joint. The other thing he may have done is use the lower balljoint from a '88-'98 C1500......I think that may work.

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

I'm curious what spindle he used, or if he reamed the lower hole in a C10 spindle. To my knowledge the C20 lower ball joints had a larger taper than a C10 lower ball joint. The other thing he may have done is use the lower balljoint from a '88-'98 C1500......I think that may work.

Another buddy of mine owns a parts store. I called him and he is checking the parts to see if there is a difference in the two ball joints. I will have him check out the 88-98 as well.

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

Another buddy of mine owns a parts store. I called him and he is checking the parts to see if there is a difference in the two ball joints. I will have him check out the 88-98 as well.

The '88-'98 lower balljoints are supposed to fit the '67-'87 C20 lower control arms, but I don't know how the taper and size of the spindle of that balljoint compares to the '73-'87 C10 lower balljoint. Let us know what your buddy finds out.