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03-22-2009, 12:58 AM | #1 |
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And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
So, I've done it again. I've got way too dep into my ambition. It all started when I got a pm from padresag about a pair of doors and frames from a Stagecoach Conversions truck. Then it got emphasized when I found a 64 big window SWB for $400 on craigslist. Now I'm building my dream truck. Unfortunately I think the build will turn into a nighmare. However, here's the build plan:
Drivetrain: Cummins 4bt Holset HY35W Turbo +40hp injectors Modded injection pump Power at about 200hp/450ft.lb Dodge NV4500 5 speed manual w/ od Dana 60 w/ 3.54 posi Body/frame: Front of 64 small window cab Stageway rear doors and frames Back of big window cab short wide bed 60-61 or 63 grill frame will be built out of 2 frames. The front half of one will be cut behind the cab and the other will be cut behind the cab. The two "halves" will be joined using a tongue and grove type joint and then boxed. Other: first will be built w/ drop spindles and 4" rear drop coils, eventualy I'l be able to afford air ride, then it'll be as low as it will go W/o notching (I just don't like Notches) 8 lugs all around 83 front discs thick front sway bar Soo what do you all think?
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03-22-2009, 01:05 AM | #2 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR Last edited by sailed2japan; 03-22-2009 at 01:08 AM. |
03-22-2009, 01:08 AM | #3 | |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
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guessing this is a typo?? wouldn't accomplish anything sounds very cool I can't wait for progress
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03-22-2009, 01:11 AM | #4 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Sounds like you've got a plan
And looks like you have enough parts too. Having the Stageway doors and frames should take a lot of the headache out of it. Keep us up to date with pics
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03-22-2009, 01:19 AM | #5 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?
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03-22-2009, 10:29 AM | #6 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
[QUOTE=justcuz;3211498]From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?[/QUOTE
they were out of an ambulance ron |
03-22-2009, 10:45 AM | #7 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
good luck. keep us posted with progress pics
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03-22-2009, 01:01 PM | #8 | |
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One behind, One in front.......Drunk posting, it happens
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR Last edited by sailed2japan; 03-22-2009 at 01:03 PM. |
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03-22-2009, 01:13 PM | #9 | |
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NV4500 gear ratios: First Gear 5.61 Second Gear 3.04 Third Gear 1.67 Fourth Gear 1.00 Fifth Gear 0.73 Reverse 5.04 So with the low first gear the 3.54 gears are a good match. Plus for optimum efficiency on the highway I want to be at about 1800-2100 rpm.
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR Last edited by sailed2japan; 03-22-2009 at 01:13 PM. |
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03-22-2009, 01:26 PM | #10 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Sounds cool to me!!!! Cant wait to see what it all looks like. Sounds like you better stock up on some sawzall blades.....post some pics as you make progress.
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03-22-2009, 04:27 PM | #11 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Dude, Sounz way kewl! Good luck with this!
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03-22-2009, 04:41 PM | #12 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
OMG... this is going to be sick!
Best of luck on the build!
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03-22-2009, 06:23 PM | #13 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Can't wait to see this project get off the ground. Crew Cabs old and new are the hot trend for this era.
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03-22-2009, 06:44 PM | #14 |
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killer !you got plenty of parts and looks like a nice big window s/b get rockin dude!
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03-22-2009, 08:22 PM | #15 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Thanks for all the encouragement guys. I can't wait to get this thing together. I've always had a thing for doing something different. I think I've found it in this build. I'm also stretching the limits of my abilities. I have never doen anything even close to this. Don't get me wrong, I bought my first car (73 Valiant) in a junkyard, worked on it for a weekend and drove it home sunday night, so I can fix thngs. However, I've never built a frame, or a cab, or done alot of body work, but I guess there's always got to be a first time!
Now I think my plan of attack is going to be to build the cab first and then build the frame so that the cab fits on it. Any suggestions?
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR |
03-23-2009, 12:19 AM | #16 | |
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03-23-2009, 11:20 PM | #17 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
I've doen stick and mig welding on the thick stuck, the sheet metal worries me more. I just need to buy my own welder and do some practice on all the trash I have hanging around...like the cats....
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR |
03-23-2009, 11:24 PM | #18 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Sounds cool man...way cooler than the Burban blowing smoke idear !!
That'll be sick.....GET ON IT !!!
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03-24-2009, 12:28 AM | #19 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
When it comes to welding sheet metal I like to use .023-.024 wire but .030 works good too. If you try using .035 you might have some difficulties. When welding sheetmetal do a series of tacks and skip around. It takes a while that way, but in the end it's less than trying to straighten out all the warpage from too much heat.
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03-24-2009, 07:45 PM | #20 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
Thanks for the advice, captianfab, I need all the help I can get!
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR |
03-25-2009, 12:48 AM | #21 |
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Anytime
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03-25-2009, 09:01 AM | #22 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
So, I was looking over my pics of the doors last night and contemplating ideas, when I realized that it looks like the doors I am using to put this thing together are longer than those on dino's and 64crewcab20's rigs. The difference is that these doors are the same length as the front doors and have a squared off dummy front window. Where as the doors on their trucks are cut down and only use a standard door window. I also noticed it looks like the hinges will be insidethe body, instead of popping out the side.
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1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR |
03-25-2009, 09:53 AM | #23 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
YOUR CATS CAN WELD!!!
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03-25-2009, 11:22 PM | #24 |
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No, but they can be welded!
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03-25-2009, 11:32 PM | #25 |
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Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power
kewl. I wanna see this one done. You have a huge headstart on ghe crewcab part. Do you have any pics of the inside of the sides, or any that show just how they reworked the doors. Where did they cut, how did they piece it together?
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