The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1969 - 1972 Blazers and Jimmys Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-26-2009, 07:42 AM   #1
72gmguy
Senior Member
 
72gmguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brigantine NJ
Posts: 819
4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Hey everyone, I am new to the message board and am sure this has been discussed before but I want to convert a 70 4x4 blazer I just purchased to a big block. I cant seem to find mounts for the conversion. anyone selling mounts for a 4x4 with a big block? I also have a 1972 blazer cst, 1970 4x4 suburban project with a 6 inch lift, 1972 suburban 2wd with a factory 402 and front and rear a/c, and a 1972 c30 ramptruck. Thanks in advance
72gmguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 08:14 AM   #2
Gary 70 Jimmy
Senior Member

 
Gary 70 Jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Burghill, Ohio 44404
Posts: 3,401
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

welcome from Ohio I need to no the same thing I have a 69 blazer 4x4 I want to put a 396 in it.
__________________

1972 GMC Jimmy 1/2 4X4 4wheel camper
1970 GMC Jimmy 1/2 4X4 350
1969 Chevy Blazer 1/2 4X4 307
1967 chevy LWB 3/4 396
Gary 70 Jimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 08:24 AM   #3
72gmguy
Senior Member
 
72gmguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brigantine NJ
Posts: 819
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

thanks for the tip. as I find out what we need I'll let you and the rest of the forum know.
72gmguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 10:03 AM   #4
Burt4x4
Registered User
 
Burt4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Modesto, CA
Posts: 1,842
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

if you are refering to the engine mounts a BBC will bolt up to a SBC engine mount, they are the same, so is the bellhousing bolt pattern.
I put a 454 in my K5.
I did it different than most, I used a 73+4x4SBC engine crossmember & frame horns..then modified that to fi ORD engine crossmember.
It's a very tight fit but it doesn't touch:


Also ORD HP engine mounts. My 454 does NOT move when rappin the throttle, the whole front of the truck does


Here is the first crossmember from a 73SBC4x4..the x-member is 3piece = 2 frame horns + 1crossmember.
The crossmember developed a crack shorlty after I got the 454 fired up so I swapped it for he ORD one.
Good Luck
Burt
__________________
1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks
Burt4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 10:10 AM   #5
Burt4x4
Registered User
 
Burt4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Modesto, CA
Posts: 1,842
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

BTW this is were I got the idea to use the 73+ SBC 4x4 mounts:


The pic on the bottom left is the frame horn. It is NOT easy to get them into the frame like in the photo. I had to make two cuts in the mount to bend down the top lip of the mount making it shorter to fit into the frame. On the pass side there are two holes that line up but you have to drill all the other holes to make it work.

If you just want to get a BBC in there then use your SBC mounts, you may need to adjust your firewall for valve cover clerance and get a bigger 4core radiator.
__________________
1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks
Burt4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 11:47 AM   #6
bouncytruck
SKINNY TIRES RULE!
 
bouncytruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 11,049
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Isn't some modifications to the firewall required for a BBC too?
__________________
bouncytruck 1972 K5
The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban
The Daily2010 Kia Soul
Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L
bouncytruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 05:07 PM   #7
72gmguy
Senior Member
 
72gmguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brigantine NJ
Posts: 819
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burt4x4 View Post
BTW this is were I got the idea to use the 73+ SBC 4x4 mounts:


The pic on the bottom left is the frame horn. It is NOT easy to get them into the frame like in the photo. I had to make two cuts in the mount to bend down the top lip of the mount making it shorter to fit into the frame. On the pass side there are two holes that line up but you have to drill all the other holes to make it work.

If you just want to get a BBC in there then use your SBC mounts, you may need to adjust your firewall for valve cover clerance and get a bigger 4core radiator.
Thanks for the pics, I checked out that ord site. They have some great product for us. Did you have to use custom headers or did you squeeze a set of pre made tubes in? It looks like you have a sweet project going yourself, hope mine turns out half as good.
72gmguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 05:32 PM   #8
Long Roof
Old School, New Style
 
Long Roof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Monroeville, Ohio
Posts: 790
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Most every BB into a blazer I have seen has had firewall modifications. The valve covers typically hit so something must be done. The reason for this I have been told is that GM set the engine and trans further back (1 1/2" or so) to clear the front axle. Three solutions would be hammer the firewall, move the engine forward and install a spring lift or install a body lift.
__________________
The Good:
- 72 GMC Jimmy 4x4 - 307 cid / 350 th
- 70 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 2wd - 454 cid /400 th
- 96 Chevy Impala SS - mainly stock
- 98 Chevy Tahoe LT 4x4 - all stock
The Bad:
- 86 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 4x4 - winter beater
The Ugly:
- 72 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 2wd - parts truck
Long Roof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2009, 07:35 PM   #9
AJs72K5
Registered User
 
AJs72K5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Tx
Posts: 1,083
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

These guys have pretty much covered it. I don't know that anyone has tried a DIY4X engine crossmember yet on a K5 with a BBC, but I have one on the way. It'll be a while before I'm ready to drop the engine back in though.
__________________
- AJ

Gray Matter Build - 1972 K5 with some stuff
AJs72K5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2009, 06:38 AM   #10
vtblazer
Registered User
 
vtblazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Vermont
Posts: 8,538
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by 72gmguy View Post
Hey everyone, I am new to the message board and am sure this has been discussed before but I want to convert a 70 4x4 blazer I just purchased to a big block. I cant seem to find mounts for the conversion. anyone selling mounts for a 4x4 with a big block? I also have a 1972 blazer cst, 1970 4x4 suburban project with a 6 inch lift, 1972 suburban 2wd with a factory 402 and front and rear a/c, and a 1972 c30 ramptruck. Thanks in advance

Welcome to the board, always good to see another member from the NE.

What's the rest of the drive train going to be?
Anything different than stock?

Have you checked out CK5? Tons of info about this over there too.

Last edited by vtblazer; 03-27-2009 at 06:41 AM.
vtblazer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2009, 09:36 AM   #11
Burt4x4
Registered User
 
Burt4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Modesto, CA
Posts: 1,842
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

"Did you have to use custom headers or did you squeeze a set of pre made tubes in? "

The heders are Thorley 304-Y 2x4 454 Chevy Truck

They don't fit as well as other headers, pass side is way high and tight to the frame and the diver side is way low waiting to get SMACKED by a rock er somtin..

The Tri-Y design is only good for RPM levels upto 4500-5000..after that the power falls on it's face..I had my K5 dyno tested and tuned so I have the graph the shows the drop off.
For me the power gains at low RPM are worth it..I built my K5 for low RPM stump pulling power
do a search for BBC and you'll find a post with lost of pics and talk about this swap
__________________
1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks
Burt4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2009, 10:27 AM   #12
Yukon Jack
Post Whore
 
Yukon Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA
Posts: 12,683
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Here's a very good thread linky on the challenges some of us have faced when afflicted with the BBC disease.
__________________
1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift
1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile
2012 Kawasaki Concours 14
Yukon Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2009, 09:53 PM   #13
72gmguy
Senior Member
 
72gmguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brigantine NJ
Posts: 819
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by vtblazer View Post
Welcome to the board, always good to see another member from the NE.

What's the rest of the drive train going to be?
Anything different than stock?

Have you checked out CK5? Tons of info about this over there too.
Thanks for the welcome, right now the truck is a 3 speed manual but I intend on a 465 in its place. I will also be putting a 4 inch lift and the 35 inch mt tires that are currently on my 70 sub on the blazer and buying new 37's to go on the sub with a 6 in lift.

I have not checked out the ck5 site but I will now. thanks
72gmguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2009, 09:56 PM   #14
72gmguy
Senior Member
 
72gmguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brigantine NJ
Posts: 819
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

thanks for the link, you guys are a huge help
72gmguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 08:29 PM   #15
doug1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Edson, Alberta
Posts: 1
Angry Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

I am in the same prediciment:
I am trying to put a 402 in a 70 blazer & require different mounts maybe? It is bolted in with small block mounts and sits too far back and not high enough any suggestions ? Somebody must make a conversion kit for this application?
doug1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2009, 06:09 AM   #16
vtblazer
Registered User
 
vtblazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Vermont
Posts: 8,538
Re: 4x4 1970 blazer big block conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1 View Post
I am in the same prediciment:
I am trying to put a 402 in a 70 blazer & require different mounts maybe? It is bolted in with small block mounts and sits too far back and not high enough any suggestions ? Somebody must make a conversion kit for this application?

The link Yukon posted is a great thread, the answer isn't as simple as just buying a conversion kit.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=263273
vtblazer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com