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wwotr · 04-27-2009, 08:18 PM

....That are knowledgable with 67-72 Chevy/GMC Trucks,
(Preferably Electrical)?

If so please contact me via Private Message or my Private e-mail at: WWOTR@MCHSI.COM

I have a qoestion, about Tailights. I don't think its too complicated, but I can't seem to get a STRAIGHT ANSWER from the Vendors, and could really use someones knowedgable input.

Thanks in advance.

ROGER
"RATIKLE"

krue · 04-27-2009, 08:25 PM

Go ahead and post it up here, lot's of guys are knowledgeable on the old stuff, and if you get your answer maybe it'll help someone else looking for similar info.

68gmsee · 04-27-2009, 09:01 PM

^I agree ^

wwotr · 04-27-2009, 09:20 PM

OK......
Here goes nothin.
_______________________________________________________________

Kel,
I was just so damn frustrated, with Vendors who sell something ,
but seem to know NOTHING about it.
I'll try and keep this short so I don't convalude the question.
I've asked a "similar" question here before, but the answers I got wern't satisfactory.

I have a 72 GMC Fleetside Shortbed.
I'm puting Euro (Clear) Tailights in the Rear.
Now I'll be using an 1157 Bulb that is made with Red Glass, in those Lenses.
My Motorcycle Vendor sells a Red Glass 1157 Bulb that is actually a higher Candle Power, than the Stock OEM Bulbs.
I'm not sure what the CP (Candle Power) is on "Stock Bulb, but thought it was around 12 CP.
These Bulbs are 35 CP.
Will putting in these bulbs, on my GMC, Overload/Burn the wirring?

Being completely a DUNCE when it comes to Wattage/Pull on an Electrical System, I would think the the higher the CP, the MORE the Draw, but is it enough to caus harm to the System?

Roger
"RATIKLE"

kgt · 04-27-2009, 09:30 PM

No issue, install those bulbs and enjoy, don't forget these harness's were engineered to carry a trailer and thier light load as well, the fuse will pop when the load on the ckt gets gets to high for the harness.I have been a tech here in b.c. since 87 and the last 16 years at a gm dealer...

wwotr · 04-27-2009, 09:33 PM

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!

KGT..THANK YOU!!!

Roger
"RATIKLE"

krue · 04-27-2009, 09:52 PM

see that didn't take long at all.

wwotr · 04-27-2009, 10:09 PM

No it didn't take long, and a friendlier / more helpfull group of people you guys/gals are too.

I was just SO FRUSTRATED with "some" Vendors touting fantastic new items and then when I asked a specific question, I'd run into a Brick Wall!
Thanks again.
My faith has been restored.
I can hardley wait to get "RATIKLE" back home from the Mechanics!

Roger
"RATIKLE"

kgt · 04-27-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwotr

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!

KGT..THANK YOU!!!

Roger
"RATIKLE"

My pleasure, glad to have helped.

68gmsee · 04-28-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwotr

No it didn't take long, and a friendlier / more helpfull group of people you guys/gals are too.

I was just SO FRUSTRATED with "some" Vendors touting fantastic new items and then when I asked a specific question, I'd run into a Brick Wall!
Thanks again.
My faith has been restored.
I can hardley wait to get "RATIKLE" back home from the Mechanics!

Roger
"RATIKLE"

Don't blame the vendors too much. There may be cases where they may have an answer but because of legal concerns, won't give it. If something were to go wrong, a person could then say that the vendor told him it was okay... Sad, but this is the times we live in.

Longhorn Man · 04-28-2009, 03:56 PM

that, and some of the vendors are nothing but a wall mart of vehicle parts. The people taking your order don't even know what the part is except for the photo in the catalog.

**StingRay** · 04-28-2009, 04:54 PM

When I was in hight school I used to driver delivery for an auto parts store. In those days you walked in and told them what you wanted and half the time they'd run and grab the right part without even looking in the book. They just knew. They knew a helluva lot about cars. I know things have changed and cars are more complicated but a parts person isn't much of a profession any more it's more like a job at Mcdonalds.

*MonteSS454* · 04-28-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

When I was in hight school I used to driver delivery for an auto parts store. In those days you walked in and told them what you wanted and half the time they'd run and grab the right part without even looking in the book. They just knew. They knew a helluva lot about cars. I know things have changed and cars are more complicated but a parts person isn't much of a profession any more it's more like a job at Mcdonalds.

I do work at a parts store and I consider it nothing like McDonalds or any other equivalent "job" it can be tough at sometimes and people expect us to know everything when we are just a bunch of shade tree mechanics that don't know everything there is to know about every vehicle ever along with all the older guys coming in and telling us how to do our job and bleh.......

Sorry for the rant, but it can get frustrating working at a parts store

68gmsee · 04-28-2009, 07:31 PM

Back in the olden days, there weren't that many different cars on the market as there are now. Externally they were different but internally they were basically the same.

I worked on my own vehicles since the early 60's and the changes I've seen are remarkable to say the least. These days with all of the innovations like anti-lock brakes, variable ignition, electric steering, anti-skid control, electronic sensors everywhere, it's almost impossible to know everything there is to know...

cparman · 04-28-2009, 07:59 PM

I need help ALOT, and usually I will tell someone about who/what I am and then proceed to tell them about my troubles. I find that a humble approach is usually the best. I did this today when I got home. I made a call to a serp belt manufacturer, and after just a few minutes, I felt my stress level drop, and am going to get a new piece to fix one of my customers cars, hopefully. The point of this is be humble, say thanks, and help someone else. What goes around comes around. " THANKS! IT SURE IS POOR PAY, BUT ITS CASH"

wwotr · 04-28-2009, 08:16 PM

Heres ANOTHER question...........

Does anyone know if the Park Lights Lenses on a 67-72 CHEVY are interchangable with the same year GMC?

I was gonnago with the Clear Park Lenses (which they make for Chevy) but NOT for GMC.

Thought I'd ask the knowedgable people here.

P.S. Yes I did work at "Village Auto Supply for 5 years from 75-80 and in most cases, I COULD walk to the shelf and pull almost any of the Big 3 Auto Makers parts ?by heart".

Not a CHANCE in todays Auto Market!

Roger
"RATIKLE"

Longhorn Man · 04-28-2009, 08:59 PM

no, the lenses are not interchaingable.. but the good news, they DO make them for GMC.

wwotr · 04-28-2009, 09:28 PM

Which begs the question on BOTH the Grill AND the Parklights they state for "1967-70 GMC".

Mine is a 72.

Anyone know if they'll fit?

Guess I should contact LMC.

Roger
"RATIKLE"

Longhorn Man · 04-28-2009, 10:07 PM

it's the same. That's a goof in there system that'll probably never get fixed.
I sent them a letter 10 years ago telling them that there VIN chart was wrong, and tehy only fixed it in the last couple years.

*MonteSS454* · 04-28-2009, 10:49 PM

I got a question on those "lenses" are they only lenses or the housing? I'm not sure if if would be worth it to try to put in rivets that would work in the old housing.

Longhorn Man · 04-28-2009, 10:58 PM

item description says lens and rivits... for 15 bucks each, I'd bet it is just that... the lens, and the rivits.

**WorkinLonghorn** · 04-28-2009, 11:25 PM

Quote:

I'm not sure what the CP (Candle Power) is on "Stock Bulb, but thought it was around 12 CP.

For the record, the original 1157 was 4 cp (tail light) 32 cp (stop/directional) according to an original 1969 overhaul manual.

wwotr · 05-05-2009, 08:25 PM

Well this Thread has seemed to bring out the Knowledgeable Members here, so I'm going to ask a completely unrelated question here.
I had posted this SAME question on 4/13/09 and to this day, have not gotten even 1 reply.
So I'll even put a PICTURE with my question.

How do you take off this gol-darn side Molding on my 72 GMC and then how do you take off the Clips that are underneath it???
It looks as though you need to take off the Inner Door Panel to get to the Nut on the backside of the Molding clip....No???
Then it looks like you have to take off (or at least loosen) the Bolts on the Inner Front Wheel Well to get to the Clips on the Front Fender???

Any Help/Easy Shortcuts or applicable "Cuss Words" would be appreciated.
Roger

**WorkinLonghorn** · 05-05-2009, 10:03 PM

Good question

*MonteSS454* · 05-06-2009, 01:13 AM

I don't remember how I got mine off, the back cab piece has 2 nuts holding it on. Open the door and try to slide the moulding off and then try to get the clips off.

04-27-2009, 08:18 PM	#1
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? ....That are knowledgable with 67-72 Chevy/GMC Trucks, (Preferably Electrical)? If so please contact me via Private Message or my Private e-mail at: WWOTR@MCHSI.COM I have a qoestion, about Tailights. I don't think its too complicated, but I can't seem to get a STRAIGHT ANSWER from the Vendors, and could really use someones knowedgable input. Thanks in advance. ROGER "RATIKLE" __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"

04-27-2009, 08:25 PM	#2
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? Go ahead and post it up here, lot's of guys are knowledgeable on the old stuff, and if you get your answer maybe it'll help someone else looking for similar info. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

04-27-2009, 09:01 PM	#3
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? ^I agree ^

04-27-2009, 09:20 PM	#4
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? OK...... Here goes nothin. _______________________________________________________________ Kel, I was just so damn frustrated, with Vendors who sell something , but seem to know NOTHING about it. I'll try and keep this short so I don't convalude the question. I've asked a "similar" question here before, but the answers I got wern't satisfactory. I have a 72 GMC Fleetside Shortbed. I'm puting Euro (Clear) Tailights in the Rear. Now I'll be using an 1157 Bulb that is made with Red Glass, in those Lenses. My Motorcycle Vendor sells a Red Glass 1157 Bulb that is actually a higher Candle Power, than the Stock OEM Bulbs. I'm not sure what the CP (Candle Power) is on "Stock Bulb, but thought it was around 12 CP. These Bulbs are 35 CP. Will putting in these bulbs, on my GMC, Overload/Burn the wirring? Being completely a DUNCE when it comes to Wattage/Pull on an Electrical System, I would think the the higher the CP, the MORE the Draw, but is it enough to caus harm to the System? Roger "RATIKLE" __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"

04-27-2009, 09:30 PM	#5
kgt Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 147	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? No issue, install those bulbs and enjoy, don't forget these harness's were engineered to carry a trailer and thier light load as well, the fuse will pop when the load on the ckt gets gets to high for the harness.I have been a tech here in b.c. since 87 and the last 16 years at a gm dealer... Last edited by kgt; 04-27-2009 at 09:31 PM.

04-27-2009, 09:33 PM	#6
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! KGT..THANK YOU!!! Roger "RATIKLE" __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"

04-27-2009, 09:52 PM	#7
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? see that didn't take long at all. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

04-27-2009, 10:09 PM	#8
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? No it didn't take long, and a friendlier / more helpfull group of people you guys/gals are too. I was just SO FRUSTRATED with "some" Vendors touting fantastic new items and then when I asked a specific question, I'd run into a Brick Wall! Thanks again. My faith has been restored. I can hardley wait to get "RATIKLE" back home from the Mechanics! Roger "RATIKLE" __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE" Last edited by wwotr; 04-27-2009 at 10:09 PM.

04-28-2009, 03:56 PM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? that, and some of the vendors are nothing but a wall mart of vehicle parts. The people taking your order don't even know what the part is except for the photo in the catalog.

04-28-2009, 04:54 PM	#12
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? When I was in hight school I used to driver delivery for an auto parts store. In those days you walked in and told them what you wanted and half the time they'd run and grab the right part without even looking in the book. They just knew. They knew a helluva lot about cars. I know things have changed and cars are more complicated but a parts person isn't much of a profession any more it's more like a job at Mcdonalds. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

04-28-2009, 07:31 PM	#14
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? Back in the olden days, there weren't that many different cars on the market as there are now. Externally they were different but internally they were basically the same. I worked on my own vehicles since the early 60's and the changes I've seen are remarkable to say the least. These days with all of the innovations like anti-lock brakes, variable ignition, electric steering, anti-skid control, electronic sensors everywhere, it's almost impossible to know everything there is to know...

04-28-2009, 07:59 PM	#15
cparman sharp as a marble Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: atlantic beach,florida Posts: 1,082	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? I need help ALOT, and usually I will tell someone about who/what I am and then proceed to tell them about my troubles. I find that a humble approach is usually the best. I did this today when I got home. I made a call to a serp belt manufacturer, and after just a few minutes, I felt my stress level drop, and am going to get a new piece to fix one of my customers cars, hopefully. The point of this is be humble, say thanks, and help someone else. What goes around comes around. " THANKS! IT SURE IS POOR PAY, BUT ITS CASH" Last edited by cparman; 04-28-2009 at 08:00 PM.

04-28-2009, 08:16 PM	#16
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? Heres ANOTHER question........... Does anyone know if the Park Lights Lenses on a 67-72 CHEVY are interchangable with the same year GMC? I was gonnago with the Clear Park Lenses (which they make for Chevy) but NOT for GMC. Thought I'd ask the knowedgable people here. P.S. Yes I did work at "Village Auto Supply for 5 years from 75-80 and in most cases, I COULD walk to the shelf and pull almost any of the Big 3 Auto Makers parts ?by heart". Not a CHANCE in todays Auto Market! Roger "RATIKLE" __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"

04-28-2009, 08:59 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? no, the lenses are not interchaingable.. but the good news, they DO make them for GMC.

04-28-2009, 09:28 PM	#18
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? Which begs the question on BOTH the Grill AND the Parklights they state for "1967-70 GMC". Mine is a 72. Anyone know if they'll fit? Guess I should contact LMC. Roger "RATIKLE" __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"



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04-28-2009, 10:07 PM	#19
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? it's the same. That's a goof in there system that'll probably never get fixed. I sent them a letter 10 years ago telling them that there VIN chart was wrong, and tehy only fixed it in the last couple years.

04-28-2009, 10:49 PM	#20
MonteSS454 Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Claremore, Oklahoma Posts: 821	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? I got a question on those "lenses" are they only lenses or the housing? I'm not sure if if would be worth it to try to put in rivets that would work in the old housing.

04-28-2009, 10:58 PM	#21
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? item description says lens and rivits... for 15 bucks each, I'd bet it is just that... the lens, and the rivits.

05-05-2009, 08:25 PM	#23
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? Well this Thread has seemed to bring out the Knowledgeable Members here, so I'm going to ask a completely unrelated question here. I had posted this SAME question on 4/13/09 and to this day, have not gotten even 1 reply. So I'll even put a PICTURE with my question. How do you take off this gol-darn side Molding on my 72 GMC and then how do you take off the Clips that are underneath it??? It looks as though you need to take off the Inner Door Panel to get to the Nut on the backside of the Molding clip....No??? Then it looks like you have to take off (or at least loosen) the Bolts on the Inner Front Wheel Well to get to the Clips on the Front Fender??? Any Help/Easy Shortcuts or applicable "Cuss Words" would be appreciated. Roger Attached Images __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"

05-05-2009, 10:03 PM	#24
WorkinLonghorn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Studio City, Calif. Posts: 2,861	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? Good question __________________ '69 GMC C2500 Custom Camper, 8 1/2' bed, New GM 350, NP 435 Close Ratio 4spd. Trans., 3.73 Dana-60 open.Camper and Trailer wiring, PS, PB, AC, tach , three gas tanks, 2nd owner, Work-Truck supreme. Best $300 I ever spent.

05-06-2009, 01:13 AM	#25
MonteSS454 Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Claremore, Oklahoma Posts: 821	Re: Any gm mechanics/members on this forum? I don't remember how I got mine off, the back cab piece has 2 nuts holding it on. Open the door and try to slide the moulding off and then try to get the clips off.

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