3 point rear belts in a crew cab? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**1774btcrew** · 06-03-2009, 12:27 PM

I have been trying to get this sorted out for some time as I am not real comfortable having my kids ride in the back with only lap belts. Has anyone found anything that will work? I have tried several options. I welded in the inner upper plates. I had hoped that the Suburban rear belts would work but they don't seem to fit the curve of the floor right. When that didn't work I ground the rivets off my stock crew cab floor mounting plates and plan to use them with the Suburban belts. Does anyone have a cleaner set up that is more of a bolt in?

OJOE · 06-03-2009, 09:19 PM

i used front and rear out of a 98 burb. had to trim the plastic on the rear to fit curve

Gregs71 · 06-03-2009, 09:37 PM

I think they started in 1999 or 2000 thru 2006 but the newer body style suburbans/tahoes/ avalanches and trucks had integrated seat belts in the seats. Fabricate mounting brackets and mount the seats in the truck and you get the seat belts and comfortable seats too. This is assuming the width would be ok??

Greg

**1774btcrew** · 06-04-2009, 07:08 PM

a different seat is a possibility for the rear but I had planned on staying original. Might upgrade the front stock buckets to something a little more supportive that reclines though

kevinr1970 · 06-05-2009, 02:59 PM

I thought the rear seats of a crew were the same as a regular cab truck?
I will have to look at my crew when I get home but I thought the rear seat belts were three-point?

kevinr1970 · 06-05-2009, 10:06 PM

OK, my crew does not have rear three-point belts.
But... on the inside of the door jamb there is what looks like a "push plug" on each side where the three point belt would bolt on. I could not pull the plug off with my bare hands so I don't know if the weld nuts or threaded inserts are under them or not.
Also, the rear seat has some very different looking mounting brackets. So maybe I was way off in my assumption that the rear of the crew was the same as a regular cab?

**1774btcrew** · 06-05-2009, 10:30 PM

Where the push plug is there are no threads. The backs of the crew cabs are identical pieces to the regular cab with the exception of not having this welded in plate for 3 point belts. (probably saved GM 50 cents a truck or so not having this) I cut these pieces out of another truck and welded them in correctly. I just cant get the lower part sorted out. I compared them to my 85 regular cab and they are different. I will see if I can get pictures of both to compare but for whatever reason the rear floor of the crewcab seems different than a regular cab.

abebummy26 · 06-05-2009, 10:48 PM

As I recall reading on hear a crew cab floor pan is Identical to a suburban.

**1774btcrew** · 06-05-2009, 11:20 PM

I actually go suburban belts but they won't allow the doors to close right with the way it mounts to the floor.

BLE 'BURBAN · 06-07-2009, 12:41 AM

What year is your crew cab? I've still got my old 81 crew cab in the back yard and it has factory 3-point belts front and rear in it.

**1774btcrew** · 06-07-2009, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLE 'BURBAN

What year is your crew cab? I've still got my old 81 crew cab in the back yard and it has factory 3-point belts front and rear in it.

Mine is 77 but I have seen a ton of crew cabs at the wrecking yards and none have had the 3 point rear belts. Do you have any pictures of your rear belts?

**Captkaos** · 06-10-2009, 10:42 PM

It would have the provisions for the 3 point in all of them. Usually there is a plug in it and you have to pry it out.

ARAMP1 · 06-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abebummy26

As I recall reading on hear a crew cab floor pan is Identical to a suburban.

It's not. The rear of the crew cab floor is raised to make room for the saddle tanks.

**1774btcrew** · 06-10-2009, 11:56 PM

Well all I know is mine did not have provisions for the 3 point belts. It had the hole in the plastic trim and the hole in the metal behind it but the weld in piece that provides the support that you bolt two was not there. I cut open the cab of a truck at the wrecking yard and cut those pieces out. When I got home I used a spotweld cutter and removed the extra metal. I drilled 4 1/4" holel in a cross pattern around the pre punched large hole in my cab, fished the pieces up, used a seatbelt bot and large washer to pull them tight then welded in the 4 holes I drilled. I just can't get anything to fit the floor correctly.

**Captkaos** · 06-11-2009, 08:35 AM

The front is like a Suburban (which the front portion is like the front of a high hump regular cab), the center is specific to burbs and crew cabs, the rear is like a high hump regular cab. You can see the "seam" in this pic for reference.

Forgot to post this (1991 crew cab)
this is the rear seatbelts on my crewcab:

**1774btcrew** · 06-11-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captkaos

The front is like a Suburban (which the front portion is like the front of a high hump regular cab), the center is specific to burbs and crew cabs, the rear is like a high hump regular cab. You can see the "seam" in this pic for reference.

Forgot to post this (1991 crew cab)
this is the rear seatbelts on my crewcab:

Does the rear of your 91 have 3 point belts?

abebummy26 · 06-11-2009, 12:27 PM

That is a pic of the rear of his crew cab

**1774btcrew** · 06-11-2009, 03:33 PM

I didn't notice the belts on the left side. I was just looking at the right side!

Gregs71 · 06-11-2009, 09:20 PM

As an fyi, we just picked up an 89 crewcab/dually and it has the three point seat belts in the back pass and driver side. They look to be just like the ones captkaos showed.

Greg

BLE 'BURBAN · 06-11-2009, 10:26 PM

And I feel like an ass. I had said my 81 crew had them in it as well but it doesn't as I found out last night when I finally made it out to the "back 40" to check it out for you. My bad. Sorry about that.

**Captkaos** · 06-13-2009, 10:09 AM

The rear seatbelts on my crew are 3 point, and the are IDENTICAL to the front seatbelts on my 87 regular cab (minus color)

IF you are looking for seatbelts, get the fronts from a Suburban or pickup and the rears from a RC pickup.

**1774btcrew** · 01-07-2010, 06:50 PM

After over 2 years of searching I FINALLY came up with factory crew cab rear seat belts for my truck. The funny thing is the truck they came out of was the cheapest 89 model available. It even was a rubber mat instead of carpet truck. The brackets are different where the mount to the floor than a regular cab although the actual belt assembly looks the same. I am STOKED!

06-03-2009, 12:27 PM	#1
1774btcrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 4,584	3 point rear belts in a crew cab? I have been trying to get this sorted out for some time as I am not real comfortable having my kids ride in the back with only lap belts. Has anyone found anything that will work? I have tried several options. I welded in the inner upper plates. I had hoped that the Suburban rear belts would work but they don't seem to fit the curve of the floor right. When that didn't work I ground the rivets off my stock crew cab floor mounting plates and plan to use them with the Suburban belts. Does anyone have a cleaner set up that is more of a bolt in?

06-03-2009, 09:19 PM	#2
OJOE Crew Cut Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MONTGOMERY,AL Posts: 757	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? i used front and rear out of a 98 burb. had to trim the plastic on the rear to fit curve __________________ 85 SWB 1/2 TON CREWCAB/5.3 03 CHEV 3500 DURAMAX CREW CAB 85 CHEV SWB/TPI 06 CHEV TAHOE (WIFES) 30 MODEL A HOT ROD 07 HARLEY DAVIDSON BAGGER 09 STREET GLIDE AN D A LOT MORE JUNK

06-03-2009, 09:37 PM	#3
Gregs71 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amador County, Ca. Posts: 229	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? I think they started in 1999 or 2000 thru 2006 but the newer body style suburbans/tahoes/ avalanches and trucks had integrated seat belts in the seats. Fabricate mounting brackets and mount the seats in the truck and you get the seat belts and comfortable seats too. This is assuming the width would be ok?? Greg __________________ 1995 GMC 4x4 1/2 ton 1999 Jeep Wrangler w/ 33's 68 camaro 350/350 1987 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 Suzuki DRZ 400s Dual Sport 1971 chevy long bed 2x4 194? Dodge 2.5 ton 1980 Chevy Cheyenne 4x4 1/2 ton I6/sm455 1989 Chevy V30 crewcab dually 454/TH400

06-04-2009, 07:08 PM	#4
1774btcrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 4,584	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? a different seat is a possibility for the rear but I had planned on staying original. Might upgrade the front stock buckets to something a little more supportive that reclines though

06-05-2009, 02:59 PM	#5
kevinr1970 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,316	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? I thought the rear seats of a crew were the same as a regular cab truck? I will have to look at my crew when I get home but I thought the rear seat belts were three-point? __________________ 2009 Honda Fit CfC (bsf 44.9 mpg) 2000 Tahoe Limited 1991 GMC CrewCab Dually 2wd, will end up swb, not dually and replace CCswb below 1991 GMC CrewCab Dually 4x4, just going to fix things up for now 1982/1989 K5/GMC Jimmy 2wd 1987 GMC 1/2 ton swb 2wd Crew (sold)

06-05-2009, 10:06 PM	#6
kevinr1970 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,316	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? OK, my crew does not have rear three-point belts. But... on the inside of the door jamb there is what looks like a "push plug" on each side where the three point belt would bolt on. I could not pull the plug off with my bare hands so I don't know if the weld nuts or threaded inserts are under them or not. Also, the rear seat has some very different looking mounting brackets. So maybe I was way off in my assumption that the rear of the crew was the same as a regular cab? __________________ 2009 Honda Fit CfC (bsf 44.9 mpg) 2000 Tahoe Limited 1991 GMC CrewCab Dually 2wd, will end up swb, not dually and replace CCswb below 1991 GMC CrewCab Dually 4x4, just going to fix things up for now 1982/1989 K5/GMC Jimmy 2wd 1987 GMC 1/2 ton swb 2wd Crew (sold)

06-05-2009, 10:30 PM	#7
1774btcrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 4,584	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? Where the push plug is there are no threads. The backs of the crew cabs are identical pieces to the regular cab with the exception of not having this welded in plate for 3 point belts. (probably saved GM 50 cents a truck or so not having this) I cut these pieces out of another truck and welded them in correctly. I just cant get the lower part sorted out. I compared them to my 85 regular cab and they are different. I will see if I can get pictures of both to compare but for whatever reason the rear floor of the crewcab seems different than a regular cab.

06-05-2009, 10:48 PM	#8
abebummy26 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Haven, MO Posts: 1,243	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? As I recall reading on hear a crew cab floor pan is Identical to a suburban. __________________ -Lincoln 1987 GMC S15 (soon to be a chevy clone) 2.5l, 4 speed, no ps, no pb, no ac Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Spoken by Cletus the hillbilly I like stickers... a whole bunch.

06-05-2009, 11:20 PM	#9
1774btcrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 4,584	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? I actually go suburban belts but they won't allow the doors to close right with the way it mounts to the floor.

06-07-2009, 12:41 AM	#10
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? What year is your crew cab? I've still got my old 81 crew cab in the back yard and it has factory 3-point belts front and rear in it. __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

06-10-2009, 10:42 PM	#12
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? It would have the provisions for the 3 point in all of them. Usually there is a plug in it and you have to pry it out. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

06-10-2009, 11:56 PM	#14
1774btcrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 4,584	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? Well all I know is mine did not have provisions for the 3 point belts. It had the hole in the plastic trim and the hole in the metal behind it but the weld in piece that provides the support that you bolt two was not there. I cut open the cab of a truck at the wrecking yard and cut those pieces out. When I got home I used a spotweld cutter and removed the extra metal. I drilled 4 1/4" holel in a cross pattern around the pre punched large hole in my cab, fished the pieces up, used a seatbelt bot and large washer to pull them tight then welded in the 4 holes I drilled. I just can't get anything to fit the floor correctly.

06-11-2009, 08:35 AM	#15
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? The front is like a Suburban (which the front portion is like the front of a high hump regular cab), the center is specific to burbs and crew cabs, the rear is like a high hump regular cab. You can see the "seam" in this pic for reference. Forgot to post this (1991 crew cab) this is the rear seatbelts on my crewcab: __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com Last edited by Captkaos; 06-11-2009 at 08:38 AM.

06-11-2009, 12:27 PM	#17
abebummy26 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Haven, MO Posts: 1,243	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? That is a pic of the rear of his crew cab __________________ -Lincoln 1987 GMC S15 (soon to be a chevy clone) 2.5l, 4 speed, no ps, no pb, no ac Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Spoken by Cletus the hillbilly I like stickers... a whole bunch.

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06-11-2009, 09:20 PM	#19
Gregs71 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amador County, Ca. Posts: 229	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? As an fyi, we just picked up an 89 crewcab/dually and it has the three point seat belts in the back pass and driver side. They look to be just like the ones captkaos showed. Greg __________________ 1995 GMC 4x4 1/2 ton 1999 Jeep Wrangler w/ 33's 68 camaro 350/350 1987 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 Suzuki DRZ 400s Dual Sport 1971 chevy long bed 2x4 194? Dodge 2.5 ton 1980 Chevy Cheyenne 4x4 1/2 ton I6/sm455 1989 Chevy V30 crewcab dually 454/TH400

06-11-2009, 10:26 PM	#20
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? And I feel like an ass. I had said my 81 crew had them in it as well but it doesn't as I found out last night when I finally made it out to the "back 40" to check it out for you. My bad. Sorry about that. __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

06-13-2009, 10:09 AM	#21
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? The rear seatbelts on my crew are 3 point, and the are IDENTICAL to the front seatbelts on my 87 regular cab (minus color) IF you are looking for seatbelts, get the fronts from a Suburban or pickup and the rears from a RC pickup. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

01-07-2010, 06:50 PM	#22
1774btcrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 4,584	Re: 3 point rear belts in a crew cab? After over 2 years of searching I FINALLY came up with factory crew cab rear seat belts for my truck. The funny thing is the truck they came out of was the cheapest 89 model available. It even was a rubber mat instead of carpet truck. The brackets are different where the mount to the floor than a regular cab although the actual belt assembly looks the same. I am STOKED!

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