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oldblue1968chevy · 06-04-2009, 04:41 PM

im getting fire, getting gas and air, under dizzy cap is turning rotor button is good looking.....WHY WONT MY TRUCK START!!!!

first i had a bad starter, 50 bucks later, a few choice words, and 45minutes of my time, i gotta new starter on....

now at least it turns over...but still wont run...any ideas

matchstick · 06-04-2009, 04:46 PM

IS it flooded? If you're getting gas and spark you should be running.

Shyguy · 06-04-2009, 04:49 PM

What kind of distributor do you have?

You said you are getting fire, is it to the plugs?

Has the truck ran and now won't start? If so what has changed since it ran.

Sorry for all the questions, but a little more info is necessary to better help you.

I have heard on here before in order for an engine to run it needs fire, air and gasoline. Also it has to be firing at the right time.

Danny

oldblue1968chevy · 06-04-2009, 04:56 PM

electric i guess hei dizy

parked it the other night to jump a wheeler off, left it where i pakred it went out the next am to get a haircut and it wouldnt turn over, well today i went to buy a starter, put starter on, now it turns over but still doesnt start,

gets fire at the plugs
dumped gas in it, and it gets gas
nothings changed since it ran last lol, cept a new starter, and me movin the dizzy retard/advance......

sandking · 06-04-2009, 05:13 PM

Timing, timing chain, fuel to the carb, screen in the carb inlet, choke stuck, etc.

Have you checked the fuel level in the carb bowl(s)?

Have you checked spark at all plugs?

oldblue1968chevy · 06-04-2009, 05:39 PM

havent checked spark at all plugs

i can see a lil gas in bottom of carb

screen in carb......ive dumped gas in it, but it may be getting stuck at the screen

its an electric choke.......its not even hooked up lol

cdowns · 06-04-2009, 05:43 PM

checked spark at how many plugs// HEI or points distributor?

oldblue1968chevy · 06-04-2009, 06:21 PM

just #1 plug

hei

Hottrucks · 06-04-2009, 08:21 PM

take the air cleaner off and flip the thottle a few time and see if it's squiting gas...if you have gas and spark you have a runner.....is the carb pump doesn't squirt start checking you fuel system

69halfton · 06-04-2009, 10:45 PM

does it do anything? kick? sputter? show SOME signs of life or nothing at all?

id check all the plugs to looks for spark. even just check that all the plug wires are on. there has been stupider things happen that will keep a truck from starting. ask me how i know.

tim21391 · 06-05-2009, 12:04 AM

on my dads 67 mustang.. a vacuum line popped off and so it wouldnt start... maybe it can be something that small.. maybe that pcv valve came out or something

dznucks · 06-05-2009, 05:54 AM

you say you jumped a 4-wheeler off......you might want to check your dizzy. i have seen a dizzy fry before just by jumping off another vehicle. i would take the module out and test it.

oldblue1968chevy · 06-05-2009, 11:50 AM

checked the dizzy..

why would it fry from jumping something off?!!!

ive gotta nother one i can exchange......

will go play more when i feel like stomping in the mud (its nasty outside)

oldblue1968chevy · 06-05-2009, 01:08 PM

well, turned out it was my type of working on the truck lol

went out, sat down in seat to think, turned key...and bam it started lol

now we've fooled with the carb. soo much its way out....wont even hardly run...

anybody have any kind of idea the settings are supposed to be, its got 2 screws on the front, which are currently all the way screwed in...im bout to google it to see what comes up, id like to know even wat the diff. are which one leans/richs it out

**WorkinLonghorn** · 06-05-2009, 01:28 PM

I think both idle air screws should be turned 2 turns out to start with,then fine tune from there to smoothest idle or highest vacuum if you have a gauge.

It will not run with them both turned in all the way.

UltraBlue71 · 06-05-2009, 02:39 PM

I have had spark fuel timing everything working and not have the engine run, you need compression too, if the rings are shot she wont run, I learned that on a S-10 a while back hooked up the comp gauge and had 0-5 psi in each cylinder, the PO had run her out of oill and the rings are gone, not typical, mind you but it happened to me!

Shyguy · 06-05-2009, 06:17 PM

Yep, you are right no compression-no run.

Good point.

That is what I like about this site, everything is brought up at one point or other.

Danny

oldblue1968chevy · 06-05-2009, 06:21 PM

runs good now...but i didnt add oil and i have 0 oil pressure...when i rev it the oil pressure gauge goes up like a tach. lol its aftermarket guage...and dipstick reads a lil too much oil, whats that saying?

**Boog** · 06-05-2009, 08:02 PM

Uh oh. Too much oil and you didn't add any? Is the oil milky looking? How's the radiator coolant level? Does the engine rattle or knock?

big mike71 · 06-05-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

well, turned out it was my type of working on the truck lol

went out, sat down in seat to think, turned key...and bam it started lol

now we've fooled with the carb. soo much its way out....wont even hardly run...

anybody have any kind of idea the settings are supposed to be, its got 2 screws on the front, which are currently all the way screwed in...im bout to google it to see what comes up, id like to know even wat the diff. are which one leans/richs it out

If they were scewed all the way in you probably fouled your plugs.

oldblue1968chevy · 06-06-2009, 09:59 AM

no i just screwed em in never ran it like that

i did get it running

i had gas in my oil,ima change fuel pumps today (try to atleast) and may change carbs for awhile (goin back to quadrajet from edelbrcok)

anybody know how im getin gas n the oil?

i flushed it out, drove it fro bout 1.5 mi with oilygas then flushed it, will flush again soon tho

glock35ipsc · 06-06-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

anybody know how im getin gas n the oil?

How much fuel did you pour in the carb trying to get it running? And how many miles does the engine have on it? Just a guess, but you may have poured so much fuel in that it seeped by the rings into the crankcase. Seen it happen before.

As far as reading 0 psi at idle, there was probably enough fuel in the oil to thin the oil out. Get fresh oil and a new filter on there ASAP.

RustyParts · 06-07-2009, 08:12 AM

Gas can also get in the oil pan from a ruptured diaphram in the fuel pump.

**truckdude239** · 06-07-2009, 08:34 AM

if u ran it with gass in the oil for 1.5 mile you looking at min a bottom end rebuild gas will wipe you bearings in a heart beat causeing a no oil pressure at idle

69halfton · 06-07-2009, 09:03 AM

oldblue, when you said jumping off, I think dznucks thought you ment jump started with cables. where I think you ment jumped off as in drove off the back of the truck. which you are right, would not effect anything

..just to clear things up..

06-04-2009, 04:46 PM	#2
matchstick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crossville, TN Posts: 156	Re: truck wont start still... IS it flooded? If you're getting gas and spark you should be running.

06-04-2009, 04:49 PM	#3
Shyguy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 2,436	Re: truck wont start still... What kind of distributor do you have? You said you are getting fire, is it to the plugs? Has the truck ran and now won't start? If so what has changed since it ran. Sorry for all the questions, but a little more info is necessary to better help you. I have heard on here before in order for an engine to run it needs fire, air and gasoline. Also it has to be firing at the right time. Danny __________________ '67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465. '75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435. '77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck. '92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.

06-04-2009, 04:56 PM	#4
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... electric i guess hei dizy parked it the other night to jump a wheeler off, left it where i pakred it went out the next am to get a haircut and it wouldnt turn over, well today i went to buy a starter, put starter on, now it turns over but still doesnt start, gets fire at the plugs dumped gas in it, and it gets gas nothings changed since it ran last lol, cept a new starter, and me movin the dizzy retard/advance...... __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-04-2009, 05:13 PM	#5
sandking .....I am working on it..... Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anaheim Hills, Ca Posts: 960	Re: truck wont start still... Timing, timing chain, fuel to the carb, screen in the carb inlet, choke stuck, etc. Have you checked the fuel level in the carb bowl(s)? Have you checked spark at all plugs? __________________ . . . . . View my build thread HERE

06-04-2009, 05:39 PM	#6
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... havent checked spark at all plugs i can see a lil gas in bottom of carb screen in carb......ive dumped gas in it, but it may be getting stuck at the screen its an electric choke.......its not even hooked up lol __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-04-2009, 04:41 PM	#1
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	truck wont start still... im getting fire, getting gas and air, under dizzy cap is turning rotor button is good looking.....WHY WONT MY TRUCK START!!!! first i had a bad starter, 50 bucks later, a few choice words, and 45minutes of my time, i gotta new starter on.... now at least it turns over...but still wont run...any ideas __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-04-2009, 05:43 PM	#7
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06-04-2009, 06:21 PM	#8
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... just #1 plug hei __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-04-2009, 08:21 PM	#9
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: truck wont start still... take the air cleaner off and flip the thottle a few time and see if it's squiting gas...if you have gas and spark you have a runner.....is the carb pump doesn't squirt start checking you fuel system __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

06-04-2009, 10:45 PM	#10
69halfton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: King City, Ontario, Canada Posts: 974	Re: truck wont start still... does it do anything? kick? sputter? show SOME signs of life or nothing at all? id check all the plugs to looks for spark. even just check that all the plug wires are on. there has been stupider things happen that will keep a truck from starting. ask me how i know. __________________ - Jason If you can turn, Youre not going fast enough. Favorite caption: first car to 200 mph in the 1/4 mile, no parachute, drum brakes all the way around.. ..back when men were men.

06-05-2009, 12:04 AM	#11
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Re: truck wont start still... on my dads 67 mustang.. a vacuum line popped off and so it wouldnt start... maybe it can be something that small.. maybe that pcv valve came out or something __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

06-05-2009, 05:54 AM	#12
dznucks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Smyrna, Ga Posts: 1,647	Re: truck wont start still... you say you jumped a 4-wheeler off......you might want to check your dizzy. i have seen a dizzy fry before just by jumping off another vehicle. i would take the module out and test it.

06-05-2009, 11:50 AM	#13
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... checked the dizzy.. why would it fry from jumping something off?!!! ive gotta nother one i can exchange...... will go play more when i feel like stomping in the mud (its nasty outside) __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-05-2009, 01:08 PM	#14
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... well, turned out it was my type of working on the truck lol went out, sat down in seat to think, turned key...and bam it started lol now we've fooled with the carb. soo much its way out....wont even hardly run... anybody have any kind of idea the settings are supposed to be, its got 2 screws on the front, which are currently all the way screwed in...im bout to google it to see what comes up, id like to know even wat the diff. are which one leans/richs it out __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-05-2009, 01:28 PM	#15
WorkinLonghorn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Studio City, Calif. Posts: 2,861	Re: truck wont start still... I think both idle air screws should be turned 2 turns out to start with,then fine tune from there to smoothest idle or highest vacuum if you have a gauge. It will not run with them both turned in all the way. __________________ '69 GMC C2500 Custom Camper, 8 1/2' bed, New GM 350, NP 435 Close Ratio 4spd. Trans., 3.73 Dana-60 open.Camper and Trailer wiring, PS, PB, AC, tach , three gas tanks, 2nd owner, Work-Truck supreme. Best $300 I ever spent. Last edited by WorkinLonghorn; 06-05-2009 at 01:29 PM.



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06-05-2009, 02:39 PM	#16
UltraBlue71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OKC OK Posts: 489	Re: truck wont start still... I have had spark fuel timing everything working and not have the engine run, you need compression too, if the rings are shot she wont run, I learned that on a S-10 a while back hooked up the comp gauge and had 0-5 psi in each cylinder, the PO had run her out of oill and the rings are gone, not typical, mind you but it happened to me! __________________ "You can put lipstick on a pig, sure it's pretty pig, but it's still just a PIG... 71 LWB

06-05-2009, 06:17 PM	#17
Shyguy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 2,436	Re: truck wont start still... Yep, you are right no compression-no run. Good point. That is what I like about this site, everything is brought up at one point or other. Danny __________________ '67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465. '75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435. '77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck. '92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.

06-05-2009, 06:21 PM	#18
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... runs good now...but i didnt add oil and i have 0 oil pressure...when i rev it the oil pressure gauge goes up like a tach. lol its aftermarket guage...and dipstick reads a lil too much oil, whats that saying? __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-05-2009, 08:02 PM	#19
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,141	Re: truck wont start still... Uh oh. Too much oil and you didn't add any? Is the oil milky looking? How's the radiator coolant level? Does the engine rattle or knock? __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

06-06-2009, 09:59 AM	#21
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: truck wont start still... no i just screwed em in never ran it like that i did get it running i had gas in my oil,ima change fuel pumps today (try to atleast) and may change carbs for awhile (goin back to quadrajet from edelbrcok) anybody know how im getin gas n the oil? i flushed it out, drove it fro bout 1.5 mi with oilygas then flushed it, will flush again soon tho __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-07-2009, 08:12 AM	#23
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06-07-2009, 08:34 AM	#24
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,233	Re: truck wont start still... if u ran it with gass in the oil for 1.5 mile you looking at min a bottom end rebuild gas will wipe you bearings in a heart beat causeing a no oil pressure at idle __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

06-07-2009, 09:03 AM	#25
69halfton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: King City, Ontario, Canada Posts: 974	Re: truck wont start still... oldblue, when you said jumping off, I think dznucks thought you ment jump started with cables. where I think you ment jumped off as in drove off the back of the truck. which you are right, would not effect anything ..just to clear things up.. __________________ - Jason If you can turn, Youre not going fast enough. Favorite caption: first car to 200 mph in the 1/4 mile, no parachute, drum brakes all the way around.. ..back when men were men.

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