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**70STOVEBOLT** · 06-10-2009, 11:19 AM

I am having a problem with my starter. When i turn the key it cranks for maybe one or two revolutions, then disengages and just spins. I try it again an it may make another rev or 2 then kicks out again. I can get it started if i keep trying, once in a while it will stay engaged for several turns and then it starts up. I have not had any electrical issues lately, other than I had to replace the ignition switch about a month ago. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as this is my daily driver.

tim21391 · 06-10-2009, 11:48 AM

Like it cranks then it whines or what? on my dads 67 mustang it did this. it cranked for a few cranks then whined and when i let go from crankin it would grind and finally grab... i ended up putting a new starter on it and fixed the problem.. a new starter for our trucks is around 30-40 bucks with lifetime warrenty from autozone. let me know if this helps

tim21391 · 06-10-2009, 11:50 AM

if its what i think u should get a new starter as soon as u can because we waited to long on the mustang and it messed up the flwhweel teeth a bit

**70STOVEBOLT** · 06-10-2009, 11:53 AM

No, it doesn't whine, I think the starter gear disengages from the flywheel ring gear and continues to spin. I replaced the solenoid but it did not cure the problem. I was thinking it's either the starter is bad, or the ring gear is so worn, it cannot keep the starter drive gear engaged and it slips back out.

markster5 · 06-10-2009, 12:05 PM

that sound.s like a bad starter drive. easyest to replace starter.

tim21391 · 06-10-2009, 12:12 PM

Ya autozone can test your starter for free

UltraBlue71 · 06-10-2009, 12:12 PM

I'd get a new starter and make sure its shimmed correctly if need be upon installation, if it where my truck.

Tx Firefighter · 06-10-2009, 01:40 PM

Starter drive or Bendix. They run 18 dollars for a new Borg Warner brand one at any parts store. No sense putting a POS rebuilt starter on because your Bendix is bad. I'd take a well proven starter with a new Bendix over any parts store reman any day.

**70STOVEBOLT** · 06-10-2009, 02:27 PM

You think the drive is worn enough it won't stay engaged?

Tx Firefighter · 06-10-2009, 02:35 PM

Yes, the little sprag inside of it gets worn and will cause it to disengage. The teeth on the outside can still look perfect. It's inside that you can't see. I dealt with this same issue on my own truck a month or so ago.

My parts guy (a good one) advised me to never get the cheap store brand drive either. He sees them fail a lot. You should step up and get the Borg Warner brand for a few dollars more. Still under 20 dollars out the door though.

67chevemall · 06-10-2009, 02:53 PM

Get a mini high torque starter. Will end all starter problems for good.
CRV.com

**passthebuck** · 06-10-2009, 02:56 PM

When I asked for a starter drive a few years back at a great parts place, the old school guy asked me if I wanted a bigblock one or a regular one. Seems that the bb one has an additional clutch in there for more holding power to turn over 11:1 compression motors. It was indistinguisable from a normal one on the outside. Mabe ask for a starter drive for a 70 Chevelle LS6...

**70STOVEBOLT** · 06-10-2009, 03:14 PM

Kevin, thanks for the info, I'll see if any local places stock the B/W unit.

passthebuck, thanks for the tip.

06-10-2009, 11:19 AM	#1
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,268	Starter question I am having a problem with my starter. When i turn the key it cranks for maybe one or two revolutions, then disengages and just spins. I try it again an it may make another rev or 2 then kicks out again. I can get it started if i keep trying, once in a while it will stay engaged for several turns and then it starts up. I have not had any electrical issues lately, other than I had to replace the ignition switch about a month ago. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as this is my daily driver. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

06-10-2009, 11:48 AM	#2
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Re: Starter question Like it cranks then it whines or what? on my dads 67 mustang it did this. it cranked for a few cranks then whined and when i let go from crankin it would grind and finally grab... i ended up putting a new starter on it and fixed the problem.. a new starter for our trucks is around 30-40 bucks with lifetime warrenty from autozone. let me know if this helps __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

06-10-2009, 11:50 AM	#3
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Re: Starter question if its what i think u should get a new starter as soon as u can because we waited to long on the mustang and it messed up the flwhweel teeth a bit __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

06-10-2009, 11:53 AM	#4
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,268	Re: Starter question No, it doesn't whine, I think the starter gear disengages from the flywheel ring gear and continues to spin. I replaced the solenoid but it did not cure the problem. I was thinking it's either the starter is bad, or the ring gear is so worn, it cannot keep the starter drive gear engaged and it slips back out. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

06-10-2009, 12:05 PM	#5
markster5 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: stuart florida Posts: 59	Re: Starter question that sound.s like a bad starter drive. easyest to replace starter.

06-10-2009, 12:12 PM	#6
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Re: Starter question Ya autozone can test your starter for free __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

06-10-2009, 12:12 PM	#7
UltraBlue71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OKC OK Posts: 489	Re: Starter question I'd get a new starter and make sure its shimmed correctly if need be upon installation, if it where my truck. __________________ "You can put lipstick on a pig, sure it's pretty pig, but it's still just a PIG... 71 LWB

06-10-2009, 01:40 PM	#8
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Starter question Starter drive or Bendix. They run 18 dollars for a new Borg Warner brand one at any parts store. No sense putting a POS rebuilt starter on because your Bendix is bad. I'd take a well proven starter with a new Bendix over any parts store reman any day. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

06-10-2009, 02:27 PM	#9
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,268	Re: Starter question You think the drive is worn enough it won't stay engaged? __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

06-10-2009, 02:35 PM	#10
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Starter question Yes, the little sprag inside of it gets worn and will cause it to disengage. The teeth on the outside can still look perfect. It's inside that you can't see. I dealt with this same issue on my own truck a month or so ago. My parts guy (a good one) advised me to never get the cheap store brand drive either. He sees them fail a lot. You should step up and get the Borg Warner brand for a few dollars more. Still under 20 dollars out the door though. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

06-10-2009, 02:53 PM	#11
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Re: Starter question Get a mini high torque starter. Will end all starter problems for good. CRV.com __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

06-10-2009, 02:56 PM	#12
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	Re: Starter question When I asked for a starter drive a few years back at a great parts place, the old school guy asked me if I wanted a bigblock one or a regular one. Seems that the bb one has an additional clutch in there for more holding power to turn over 11:1 compression motors. It was indistinguisable from a normal one on the outside. Mabe ask for a starter drive for a 70 Chevelle LS6... __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

06-10-2009, 03:14 PM	#13
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,268	Re: Starter question Kevin, thanks for the info, I'll see if any local places stock the B/W unit. passthebuck, thanks for the tip. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear



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