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ScottMH · 06-15-2009, 01:06 AM

I just bought a 58 Chevrolet Apache 3600 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed truck. it is a fully functional truck and i paid a pretty penny for her. the guy told me it was 1 of 100 produced with factory 4x4, whether or not thats true is a nonpoint to me. I do want to upgrade it a bit tho. I want to put power steering in it but i cant seem to find a system that would bolt in. do you guys know of a power steering system that will work? also, i want to put power brakes, is it as simple as adding a brake booster? the last thing is the tires. as far as i know its a stock suspension truck, what is the biggest tires that will fit under her?

andrewt2 · 06-15-2009, 07:33 AM

welcome to the board. however im not to familiar with parts fitments on your personal truck im sure someone will chime in with all the answers you need this is a very friendly board with plenty of helpful people! welcome again!

dennis57 · 06-15-2009, 08:24 AM

Post up some pictures.

Bigblue29 · 06-15-2009, 08:56 AM

Post some pics for us to drool over!

ScottMH · 06-15-2009, 01:41 PM

haha, the truck is in transit. i bought it at a auction and i am awaiting its arrival. should be in thursday. in the mean time i am trying to figure out how big of a tire i can fit with the stock suspension

Kim57 · 06-15-2009, 03:13 PM

OrrieG · 06-15-2009, 07:00 PM

Can't wait for pictures, there is a web site dedicated to the old NAPCO trucks. He might be right but I thought 1960 was the first year they were made on the Chevy assembly lines. Before that they were a conversion done at the dealer or in your barn (it came as a kit). Go to the 4x4 message board on this site and search for NAPCO, there were a couple of pretty comprehensive threads over the winter about them with good links.

57ToyBox · 06-15-2009, 07:07 PM

Welcome Scott
Not familiar with a big tuff monster like that either, but
would luv to see pix too

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 09:15 AM

the delivery truck was 3 days early!! here are the pictures

1958 Chevrolet 3600 4x4

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 09:16 AM

1971 GMC Jimmy 4x4

1989 Dodge Dakota Factory Convertible Top

The Line Up:

I know its a lot of pictures but here ya go!

dennis57 · 06-16-2009, 09:24 AM

The 58 and the big block Jimmy are NICE!!

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis57

The 58 and the big block Jimmy are NICE!!

Thanks! the 58 is my favorite. i am prolly going to go with a mild custom setup. but nothing that cannot be put back to stock. under dash radio and a/c stuff like that. i also want to move the fuel tank to under the bed, i dont like it behind the driver seat. i may leave the tank behind the seat but do another tank under the bed. seat belts are another add on i am gunna go for. not that i have to but i just like them. the jimmy is going to be an all out custom mud truck. i bought the dakota simply because i thought it was fun looking. come to find out its 1 of 2800 built. so its got a little bit of value to it.

Kim57 · 06-16-2009, 10:59 AM

Very nice.
Kim

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 11:49 AM

Thanks everyone!
Here are my plans

Stage 1 aka Get're Goin

:
New tires: Super Swampers 35x12.5, it has 33x12.5 on it. looks like plenty of room to go bigger
Fix leaks: Front Axle pinion seal, Front Axle axle shaft seals (both sides), engine oil drain plug, transmission
Drain, flush, and replace all oils and lubercants
Replace any worn suspension, brake, and driveline parts
Replace Exhaust
Seat Belts

Stage 2 aka Shine Her Up

:
Replace all faded chrome...which is almost all of it (Gotta love LMC truck)

Stage 3 aka Get Goin

:
Pretty basic, enjoy it for a while!

Stage 4 aka Place to tinker

:
While I enjoy her for a while i am going to build a shop to prepare for Stage 5

Stage 5 aka Tear Her Down

:
Top to bottom restoration and customization
Add some modern touches: A/C, power steering and brakes, Stereo system, power windows, keyless entry, complete electrical system overhaul

I may cave and do the A/C system in the first stage. It gets hot down here in South Louisiana!

bensimmons_05 · 06-16-2009, 12:02 PM

did you get all of those vehicles at the same auction?

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bensimmons_05

did you get all of those vehicles at the same auction?

yeah, it was the Leake Classic Car Auction in Tulsa, OK. I have a classic/muslce car dealership and i bought them as inventory but I cant bring myself to sell them haha! I also bought a 1957 Ranchero but I didnt get a chance to take pictures of it this morning. I love trucks and the 58 is one of my favorite bodys and the Jimmy is just a beast. The dodge i will prolly will sell. its nice but i am just not dawn to it like the other two. The Ranchero was a "order" from one of my customers so its already sold.

bensimmons_05 · 06-16-2009, 12:23 PM

Ic Ic.... Well great find on ALL of them they are all cool and unique!

57ToyBox · 06-16-2009, 12:38 PM

Awesome picture
Talk about your dream jobs... LOL classic/muslce car dealership

Bigblue29 · 06-16-2009, 03:46 PM

Wow, nice line up. The 58 looks like its in good condition in the pics!

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblue29

Wow, nice line up. The 58 looks like its in good condition in the pics!

thanks! she has a little bit of surface rust under neather. only one spot has it broke through. its where one of the body mount bolts are. ima clean it and weld it for the time being.

OrrieG · 06-16-2009, 06:35 PM

Looks like it has a PTO winch too. Good find.

CAL 58 GMC · 06-16-2009, 08:19 PM

Welcome!! Cool truck!

ScottMH · 06-16-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrrieG

Looks like it has a PTO winch too. Good find.

yes sir she does....i dont know how to use it so i havent tested it yet tho...

ScottMH · 06-17-2009, 05:17 PM

anyone have a clue on the biggest tire size that can be shoved under it?

57ToyBox · 06-17-2009, 06:58 PM

Not sure how big you can go. There is a lot of determining factors.
The offset of your rims, cause your tires may rub during turning.
And your trucks ride height. Find a tire shop that is willing to work with you.
He can do the... Trial and error... keep trying tires on until you and the tire guy find the ones that fit perfect.

06-15-2009, 01:06 AM	#1
ScottMH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houma,LA Posts: 17	hello everyone I just bought a 58 Chevrolet Apache 3600 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed truck. it is a fully functional truck and i paid a pretty penny for her. the guy told me it was 1 of 100 produced with factory 4x4, whether or not thats true is a nonpoint to me. I do want to upgrade it a bit tho. I want to put power steering in it but i cant seem to find a system that would bolt in. do you guys know of a power steering system that will work? also, i want to put power brakes, is it as simple as adding a brake booster? the last thing is the tires. as far as i know its a stock suspension truck, what is the biggest tires that will fit under her?

06-15-2009, 07:33 AM	#2
andrewt2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Carbondale, Kansas Posts: 547	Re: hello everyone welcome to the board. however im not to familiar with parts fitments on your personal truck im sure someone will chime in with all the answers you need this is a very friendly board with plenty of helpful people! welcome again!

06-15-2009, 08:24 AM	#3
dennis57 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho New Mexico Posts: 155	Re: hello everyone Post up some pictures.

06-15-2009, 08:56 AM	#4
Bigblue29 Thanks 'til you're better paid Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 257	Re: hello everyone Post some pics for us to drool over! __________________ -Luke 1950 Chevy AD 3100 pickup 2000 GMC Sierra 1970 Jeepster Commando

06-15-2009, 01:41 PM	#5
ScottMH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houma,LA Posts: 17	Re: hello everyone haha, the truck is in transit. i bought it at a auction and i am awaiting its arrival. should be in thursday. in the mean time i am trying to figure out how big of a tire i can fit with the stock suspension

06-15-2009, 03:13 PM	#6
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: hello everyone

06-15-2009, 07:00 PM	#7
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: hello everyone Can't wait for pictures, there is a web site dedicated to the old NAPCO trucks. He might be right but I thought 1960 was the first year they were made on the Chevy assembly lines. Before that they were a conversion done at the dealer or in your barn (it came as a kit). Go to the 4x4 message board on this site and search for NAPCO, there were a couple of pretty comprehensive threads over the winter about them with good links. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

06-15-2009, 07:07 PM	#8
57ToyBox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Callander Ont. Posts: 387	Re: hello everyone Welcome Scott Not familiar with a big tuff monster like that either, but would luv to see pix too __________________ --Glenn-- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=345975 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=564403

06-16-2009, 09:15 AM	#9
ScottMH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houma,LA Posts: 17	Re: hello everyone the delivery truck was 3 days early!! here are the pictures 1958 Chevrolet 3600 4x4

06-16-2009, 09:16 AM	#10
ScottMH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houma,LA Posts: 17	Re: hello everyone 1971 GMC Jimmy 4x4 1989 Dodge Dakota Factory Convertible Top The Line Up: I know its a lot of pictures but here ya go!

06-16-2009, 09:24 AM	#11
dennis57 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho New Mexico Posts: 155	Re: hello everyone The 58 and the big block Jimmy are NICE!!

06-16-2009, 10:59 AM	#13
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: hello everyone Very nice. Kim

06-16-2009, 11:49 AM	#14
ScottMH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houma,LA Posts: 17	Re: hello everyone Thanks everyone! Here are my plans Stage 1 aka Get're Goin : New tires: Super Swampers 35x12.5, it has 33x12.5 on it. looks like plenty of room to go bigger Fix leaks: Front Axle pinion seal, Front Axle axle shaft seals (both sides), engine oil drain plug, transmission Drain, flush, and replace all oils and lubercants Replace any worn suspension, brake, and driveline parts Replace Exhaust Seat Belts Stage 2 aka Shine Her Up : Replace all faded chrome...which is almost all of it (Gotta love LMC truck) Stage 3 aka Get Goin : Pretty basic, enjoy it for a while! Stage 4 aka Place to tinker : While I enjoy her for a while i am going to build a shop to prepare for Stage 5 Stage 5 aka Tear Her Down : Top to bottom restoration and customization Add some modern touches: A/C, power steering and brakes, Stereo system, power windows, keyless entry, complete electrical system overhaul I may cave and do the A/C system in the first stage. It gets hot down here in South Louisiana!

06-16-2009, 12:02 PM	#15
bensimmons_05 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 479	Re: hello everyone did you get all of those vehicles at the same auction? __________________ ---Ben Jammin's 1955 Chevy/GMC Project --- ---The shop's live video feed--- <<< See what I'm up to!

06-16-2009, 12:23 PM	#17
bensimmons_05 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 479	Re: hello everyone Ic Ic.... Well great find on ALL of them they are all cool and unique! __________________ ---Ben Jammin's 1955 Chevy/GMC Project --- ---The shop's live video feed--- <<< See what I'm up to!



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06-16-2009, 12:38 PM	#18
57ToyBox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Callander Ont. Posts: 387	Re: hello everyone Awesome picture Talk about your dream jobs... LOL classic/muslce car dealership __________________ --Glenn-- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=345975 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=564403

06-16-2009, 03:46 PM	#19
Bigblue29 Thanks 'til you're better paid Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 257	Re: hello everyone Wow, nice line up. The 58 looks like its in good condition in the pics! __________________ -Luke 1950 Chevy AD 3100 pickup 2000 GMC Sierra 1970 Jeepster Commando

06-16-2009, 06:35 PM	#21
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: hello everyone Looks like it has a PTO winch too. Good find. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

06-16-2009, 08:19 PM	#22
CAL 58 GMC Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Clovis Ca. Posts: 3,311	Re: hello everyone Welcome!! Cool truck! __________________ Classic Trucks Link http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...uck/index.html 1958 GMC.Project Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=162816 1966 Chevelle Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=443576 Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prrNKo8F7Zw#GU5U2spHI_4

06-17-2009, 05:17 PM	#24
ScottMH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houma,LA Posts: 17	Re: hello everyone anyone have a clue on the biggest tire size that can be shoved under it?

06-17-2009, 06:58 PM	#25
57ToyBox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Callander Ont. Posts: 387	Re: hello everyone Not sure how big you can go. There is a lot of determining factors. The offset of your rims, cause your tires may rub during turning. And your trucks ride height. Find a tire shop that is willing to work with you. He can do the... Trial and error... keep trying tires on until you and the tire guy find the ones that fit perfect. __________________ --Glenn-- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=345975 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=564403

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