do I add power brakes or not if so how? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

DADS71 · 06-16-2009, 09:06 PM

Just bought 71 cheyenne 30600 original miles from old man in kentucky super solid has alot of options but not power brakes going to spruce up. I have 3 other 71 and 72s garage full. Thinking about adding power brakes what beside buying brake booster and mounting to fire wall and installing master cylinder on that do you have to do? Or do you think I should just leave every thing totally original It still has the original wheel covers.

oldblue1968chevy · 06-16-2009, 10:06 PM

if u wanna convert to pb, i think its great i did and dont regret it

u need booster,and rod from booster to brake pedel from a power brake truck

you'll need to adjust brakelite, simple but a pita

and run a big vacum line for the pb

any more ? just ask

theres a write up in the faq

PanelDeland · 06-16-2009, 10:25 PM

That low miles and that original makes for a rare truck.I don't think I would add the PB unless I was keeping it.A hard core restoration freak may want it and adding PB may make it less desireable to someone like that.

Jim_PA · 06-17-2009, 12:50 AM

I don't think it's necessary unless you have very weak legs.

DADS71 · 06-17-2009, 06:06 AM

Thanks for your replys. I think panel deland is thinkin right.

big_al_71 · 06-17-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_PA

I don't think it's necessary unless you have very weak legs.

I agree with this quote

I left mine without power brakes I just love the simple clean look of it..

72BlckButy · 06-17-2009, 08:18 AM

Don't mean to divert from the original post.

Hey big al... did you notice any changes in the braking when you added the larger dia. wheels in
terms of the stopping power of a manually based system?

big_al_71 · 06-17-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Don't mean to divert from the original post.

Hey big al... did you notice any changes in the braking when you added the larger dia. wheels in
terms of the stopping power of a manually based system?

Hey Nate
We redid the complete brake system new hoses, lines, wheel cylinders, manual master cylinder, prop valeve, rebuilt the calipers. The truck stops very good even with the big motor and big wheels. It does not stop on a dime like my 4 wheel disc el camino did but it stops nicely and once you get used to the pedal it is all good. I am still going to do four wheel disc (willwood or Baers) with new air ride in the near future.I only drive my truck on the weekends here and there so it was not big deal.

**WorkinLonghorn** · 06-17-2009, 08:39 AM

Dads71, It's early here still,and I need to see a picture of that original 30K truck before I can make up my mind,but I tend to agree with PanelDeland.

Jim_PA · 06-17-2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Don't mean to divert from the original post.

Hey big al... did you notice any changes in the braking when you added the larger dia. wheels in
terms of the stopping power of a manually based system?

I went from 15" aluminum to 15" rally's (+16lbs on each wheel) there was a very noticeable difference in braking. It only took a few drives to get used to it.

72BlckButy · 06-17-2009, 01:39 PM

Thanks for the information big al and Jim PA!

I personally don't see the need to upgrade w/ a power booster, but that is my own opinion. If I were to drive it daily I would consider upgrading the system.

Blue71LWB · 06-17-2009, 01:53 PM

I would add the PB. I think overall your average joe would want PB. Also, I don't think it would hurt the value any. If someone wanted to return it to stock, it would take no time flat.

Stock72c10 · 06-17-2009, 03:12 PM

I don't think you will get enough money back out of it to cover the conversion and time to add PBs. If your goal is to flip it spend you time on wax, Armor-All and elbow grease, that will pay off better.

10pointgmc · 06-17-2009, 07:19 PM

I always like the manual brakes they work good and less can go wrong with them

DADS71 · 06-17-2009, 11:55 PM

Thanks all for your replys I picked truck up today after work the old man hasent washed it in a while I took pics of him signing over title and also pics of him in front of his old truck pretty cool evening. I cant believe this thing only has 30912 miles on it I was a little off when I said 30600 but I havent seen a 71 with that low of mileage before. On the manual brakes my other trucks have power brakes this manuel brake truck seems weird I push down and its real hard get some squeeks out of peddle is that norm? I spent 4 hours washing and cleaning interior took buffing pad and polishing compound to passenger side and waxed just to see what would happen it buffed and waxed great I think I got 1 of a kind just wish it was a short box if somebody could walk me through steps of posting pics I would love to do that just not that good at computers. Thanks again

PHAT TONY · 06-18-2009, 12:30 AM

I added power booster to my '69 with drums on all 4's; didn't change the pedal, didn't un-cork a line, took about an hour!

danw210 · 06-18-2009, 10:58 AM

OK we are all waiting to see those pictures now!

DADS71 · 06-19-2009, 11:40 PM

I still dont know how to post pics if I did you guys would probably be sick of me within a week.

ol Curt · 06-21-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DADS71

I still dont know how to post pics if I did you guys would probably be sick of me within a week.

Guys, tell him if he'll get pics to his old friend Bob, he'll post them for him!!

ol Curt · 06-21-2009, 12:00 PM

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DADS71 · 06-21-2009, 12:19 PM

Pics of engine

ol Curt · 06-21-2009, 12:25 PM

ol curts

DADS71 · 06-21-2009, 03:34 PM

My blue 71...pic test!!

ol Curt · 06-24-2009, 08:19 PM

Hmmmm....no pics of that new custom air cleaner yet!!

06-16-2009, 09:06 PM	#1
DADS71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: EVANSVILLE INDIANA Posts: 54	do I add power brakes or not if so how? Just bought 71 cheyenne 30600 original miles from old man in kentucky super solid has alot of options but not power brakes going to spruce up. I have 3 other 71 and 72s garage full. Thinking about adding power brakes what beside buying brake booster and mounting to fire wall and installing master cylinder on that do you have to do? Or do you think I should just leave every thing totally original It still has the original wheel covers. Last edited by 70cst; 06-18-2009 at 07:34 AM. Reason: fs ?

06-16-2009, 10:06 PM	#2
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? if u wanna convert to pb, i think its great i did and dont regret it u need booster,and rod from booster to brake pedel from a power brake truck you'll need to adjust brakelite, simple but a pita and run a big vacum line for the pb any more ? just ask theres a write up in the faq __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-16-2009, 10:25 PM	#3
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? That low miles and that original makes for a rare truck.I don't think I would add the PB unless I was keeping it.A hard core restoration freak may want it and adding PB may make it less desireable to someone like that. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

06-17-2009, 12:50 AM	#4
Jim_PA Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: PA Posts: 2,696	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? I don't think it's necessary unless you have very weak legs.

06-17-2009, 06:06 AM	#5
DADS71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: EVANSVILLE INDIANA Posts: 54	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Thanks for your replys. I think panel deland is thinkin right.

06-17-2009, 08:18 AM	#7
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Don't mean to divert from the original post. Hey big al... did you notice any changes in the braking when you added the larger dia. wheels in terms of the stopping power of a manually based system? __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 06-17-2009 at 08:18 AM.

06-17-2009, 08:39 AM	#9
WorkinLonghorn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Studio City, Calif. Posts: 2,873	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Dads71, It's early here still,and I need to see a picture of that original 30K truck before I can make up my mind,but I tend to agree with PanelDeland. __________________ '69 GMC C2500 Custom Camper, 8 1/2' bed, New GM 350, NP 435 Close Ratio 4spd. Trans., 3.73 Dana-60 open.Camper and Trailer wiring, PS, PB, AC, tach , three gas tanks, stereo speakers, 2nd owner, Work-Truck supreme.

06-17-2009, 01:39 PM	#11
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Thanks for the information big al and Jim PA! I personally don't see the need to upgrade w/ a power booster, but that is my own opinion. If I were to drive it daily I would consider upgrading the system. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

06-17-2009, 01:53 PM	#12
Blue71LWB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 120	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? I would add the PB. I think overall your average joe would want PB. Also, I don't think it would hurt the value any. If someone wanted to return it to stock, it would take no time flat. __________________ Working on my first 1,000 post. I'm sure I'll get there before this project is over .

06-17-2009, 03:12 PM	#13
Stock72c10 classic=of recognized value Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 317	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? I don't think you will get enough money back out of it to cover the conversion and time to add PBs. If your goal is to flip it spend you time on wax, Armor-All and elbow grease, that will pay off better.

06-17-2009, 07:19 PM	#14
10pointgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Moores Hill Indiana Posts: 144	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? I always like the manual brakes they work good and less can go wrong with them

06-17-2009, 11:55 PM	#15
DADS71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: EVANSVILLE INDIANA Posts: 54	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Thanks all for your replys I picked truck up today after work the old man hasent washed it in a while I took pics of him signing over title and also pics of him in front of his old truck pretty cool evening. I cant believe this thing only has 30912 miles on it I was a little off when I said 30600 but I havent seen a 71 with that low of mileage before. On the manual brakes my other trucks have power brakes this manuel brake truck seems weird I push down and its real hard get some squeeks out of peddle is that norm? I spent 4 hours washing and cleaning interior took buffing pad and polishing compound to passenger side and waxed just to see what would happen it buffed and waxed great I think I got 1 of a kind just wish it was a short box if somebody could walk me through steps of posting pics I would love to do that just not that good at computers. Thanks again

06-18-2009, 12:30 AM	#16
PHAT TONY Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Red Deer ab canada Posts: 1,250	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? I added power booster to my '69 with drums on all 4's; didn't change the pedal, didn't un-cork a line, took about an hour!

06-18-2009, 10:58 AM	#17
danw210 69 K20 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Elizabethtown, KY Posts: 426	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? OK we are all waiting to see those pictures now!

06-19-2009, 11:40 PM	#18
DADS71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: EVANSVILLE INDIANA Posts: 54	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? I still dont know how to post pics if I did you guys would probably be sick of me within a week.



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ol Curt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,247	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? __________________ 1966 Chevy C10 Longbed I'm Bob....ol Curt was my Grandpa The truck was his and he sure as heck wouldn't understand why I took a perfectly good truck and tore it down!

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DADS71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: EVANSVILLE INDIANA Posts: 54	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Pics of engine

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ol Curt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,247	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? ol curts Attached Images __________________ 1966 Chevy C10 Longbed I'm Bob....ol Curt was my Grandpa The truck was his and he sure as heck wouldn't understand why I took a perfectly good truck and tore it down!

06-21-2009, 03:34 PM	#23
DADS71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: EVANSVILLE INDIANA Posts: 54	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? My blue 71...pic test!! Attached Images

06-24-2009, 08:19 PM	#24
ol Curt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,247	Re: do I add power brakes or not if so how? Hmmmm....no pics of that new custom air cleaner yet!! __________________ 1966 Chevy C10 Longbed I'm Bob....ol Curt was my Grandpa The truck was his and he sure as heck wouldn't understand why I took a perfectly good truck and tore it down!

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