Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

72BlckButy · 07-05-2009, 08:10 PM

Okay guys, I recently purchased a brand new MC for my '69 and since I haven't replaced one of these before I wanted to determine the best way to prep and paint the new one.

How do you clean off the residue (oil) from the MC before paint?

I've gathered that no matter what you do they will rust in no time, but I was curious if there are any steps to take to keep this from happening so quickly.

Would a rust encapsilator help?
Followed by a primer?
Followed by paint?

Mainly just looking for your experiences.

**passthebuck** · 07-05-2009, 08:37 PM

As you know, I just set up my new master cylinder that I had powder coated. In the bleeding phase I spilled brakefluid on it a few times over the course of an hour & it did not bubble, peel or run. I am unaware of conventional paint that can withstand brakefluid. Still looks great. Go powder coat! Lasts & withstands brakefluid.

**lolife99** · 07-05-2009, 08:49 PM

I just clean really good with lacquer thinner, then use self etching primer, then some "cast" looking paint from your local auto parts store. Also silicone (DOT 5) brake fluid will not harm paint like conventional brake fluid.

**jaros44sr** · 07-05-2009, 08:52 PM

I just use Eastwoods stainless steel coating, used the same can for 15 years, just had to thin it out over time. Brake fliud doesn't seem to bother it and I use it on my exhaust manifolds. Just wipe the M/C down with thinner

72BlckButy · 07-06-2009, 07:50 AM

bump...

Beelzeburb · 07-06-2009, 11:42 PM

POR-15? I painted mine with it a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I had already disconnected my blast cabinet or I would have given the POR something more to grab on to. As is it is holding up well, but the new fluid peeled up the edges around the reservoir a slight amount.

Ackattack · 07-07-2009, 09:19 AM

I just cleaned mine then shot it with some clear for the natural cast look.

my67chevytruck · 07-07-2009, 09:40 AM

Clean with thinner, or wax/grease remover. Leddzep, painted his MC with this, and had good results.

http://www.por15.com/FACTORY-MANIFOL...ductinfo/FMGG/

I have painted the ramhorns (came out awesome),but need to purchase a new MC and paint it as well.

TomsCheyenne · 07-07-2009, 03:25 PM

Here is the booster on my Roadrunner, it was a rebuilt unit as well, I used laquer thinner and then painted it with Dupli-Color cast iron engine paint. Suppose to be pretty good stuff, I did get some fluid on it while bleeding the brakes and wiped it right off, it is still fine.

72BlckButy · 07-07-2009, 08:28 PM

Thanks for the info guys!

Tom that is one slick MC.

Tx Firefighter · 07-07-2009, 08:32 PM

Of course, I would use powdercoating. It's not going to come off with fluid spillage like paint will. I powdercoat all of my brake parts, master cylinder, calipers, everything. I charge 15 bucks to do a new master cylinder body.

72BlckButy · 07-07-2009, 08:38 PM

Kevin, would you tear it apart, and then rebuild it after it's pc'd? And do you know of any issues that might come from PC'ing a MC? Have you seen any color options that would look close to natural cast?

Tx Firefighter · 07-07-2009, 08:42 PM

I don't think it's worth rebuilding one anymore. You can buy a rebuilt one for 20 bucks or so. I just get a rebuilt part, disassemble it, clean it, coat it, and reassemble. Cheapest way to go and you know you have a decent part when you're done.

72BlckButy · 07-07-2009, 08:52 PM

Well, I actually already have a new MC for my install, so I might have to take PC'ing into consideration.

Any colors that resemble cast?

Sammy · 07-07-2009, 08:55 PM

POR 15 won't stay. Figured it would when I done mine. It was fine till I overfilled it then it peeled/ bubbled right off. I also tried the high heat paint from Autozone, don't waste your money on that either. Fine for a few weeks. I didn't use a prep on the metal, maybe a thinner would help to prep the surface which I will try again later in the week.

Sammy · 07-07-2009, 08:59 PM

My only question about pwdrcoating would be the amount of heat required to cook the coating. What effect that may have on the operation at a later date.

72BlckButy · 07-07-2009, 09:01 PM

That's kind of what I'm worried about... I guess the MC is just one of those never ending "paint required" pieces.

**leddzepp** · 07-07-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy

I didn't use a prep on the metal

This is why the POR 15 did not stick.

Tx Firefighter · 07-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Well, I actually already have a new MC for my install, so I might have to take PC'ing into consideration.

Any colors that resemble cast?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy

My only question about pwdrcoating would be the amount of heat required to cook the coating. What effect that may have on the operation at a later date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

That's kind of what I'm worried about... I guess the MC is just one of those never ending "paint required" pieces.

I keep lots of metal look colors in stock. On something like a master cylinder, I can do just a coating of clear powder. That will seal it from the elements and keep it looking straight out of the box new.

The heat won't affect a thing. I strip the housing to bare cast iron with nothing else inside of it. Once it is powdered, I reassemble it. The closest the rubber and aluminum pieces get to the heat is laying on the workbench in the shop by the oven. Of course, I plug all openings and threaded holes to keep the powder on the outside where it belongs.

72BlckButy · 07-08-2009, 09:37 PM

The following was posted by cparman...

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Originally Posted by cparman

I paint all my master cylinders with POR15 factory manifold gray. Wipe master cylinder clean with thinner, let dry, use a sponge brush, and apply one coat. let dry 12 hours and apply one more. let dry 12 hours and install. The nice thing about this paint is that you can touch it up if you get brake fluid on it. Did my exhaust manifolds a year and a half ago also.

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**lolife99** · 07-08-2009, 10:33 PM

Hey Nate,...
POL (Performance OnLine) now sells an aluminum version of your M/C. I wish I would have waited to get one of these for my '69. NO more rust problems!

72BlckButy · 07-10-2009, 07:47 AM

Don't post that... I don't need to know that, I've already spent my money!

07-05-2009, 08:10 PM	#1
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Okay guys, I recently purchased a brand new MC for my '69 and since I haven't replaced one of these before I wanted to determine the best way to prep and paint the new one. How do you clean off the residue (oil) from the MC before paint? I've gathered that no matter what you do they will rust in no time, but I was curious if there are any steps to take to keep this from happening so quickly. Would a rust encapsilator help? Followed by a primer? Followed by paint? Mainly just looking for your experiences. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 07-05-2009 at 08:12 PM.

07-05-2009, 08:37 PM	#2
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder As you know, I just set up my new master cylinder that I had powder coated. In the bleeding phase I spilled brakefluid on it a few times over the course of an hour & it did not bubble, peel or run. I am unaware of conventional paint that can withstand brakefluid. Still looks great. Go powder coat! Lasts & withstands brakefluid. Attached Images __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car Last edited by passthebuck; 07-07-2009 at 10:14 AM.

07-05-2009, 08:49 PM	#3
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,701	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder I just clean really good with lacquer thinner, then use self etching primer, then some "cast" looking paint from your local auto parts store. Also silicone (DOT 5) brake fluid will not harm paint like conventional brake fluid. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

07-05-2009, 08:52 PM	#4
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,766	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder I just use Eastwoods stainless steel coating, used the same can for 15 years, just had to thin it out over time. Brake fliud doesn't seem to bother it and I use it on my exhaust manifolds. Just wipe the M/C down with thinner __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

07-06-2009, 07:50 AM	#5
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder bump... __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

07-06-2009, 11:42 PM	#6
Beelzeburb Devil's in the Details Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Utah Posts: 353	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder POR-15? I painted mine with it a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I had already disconnected my blast cabinet or I would have given the POR something more to grab on to. As is it is holding up well, but the new fluid peeled up the edges around the reservoir a slight amount. __________________ '70 K10 Suburban - TBI 454, 4L80E, NP241C, Dana 60 & 44 - The 10+ Year Project Thread Datsun 240Z, 510 2 door and an old Honda motorcycle Last edited by Beelzeburb; 07-06-2009 at 11:45 PM.

07-07-2009, 09:19 AM	#7
Ackattack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley Center KS Posts: 3,524	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder I just cleaned mine then shot it with some clear for the natural cast look. __________________ Project Bruiser: 68 Pro-Touring C-10 5.3L / 4L60E Project Ironhide: 97 GMC Crew Cab 4x4 Cummins SOLD: '69 GMC 1/2T SWB TBI'd: Project No Buck Assembly Manual Index Sign up Thread!!! Factory Service Manual Index

07-07-2009, 09:40 AM	#8
my67chevytruck Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midlothian,TX (DFW) Posts: 4,555	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Clean with thinner, or wax/grease remover. Leddzep, painted his MC with this, and had good results. http://www.por15.com/FACTORY-MANIFOL...ductinfo/FMGG/ I have painted the ramhorns (came out awesome),but need to purchase a new MC and paint it as well. __________________ Heath subscribe to the board here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=157669 FAQ how to's 1956 Chevy Apache 1967 C10 SWB FleetSide (under construction) 1969 K10 SWB FleetSide (Future Build) 1972 C10 SWB Stepside (Future Build) 56 chevy truck : http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2955823/1 67 truck build: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=281357/1 69 k10: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389470 Last edited by my67chevytruck; 07-07-2009 at 09:43 AM.

07-07-2009, 03:25 PM	#9
TomsCheyenne Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mechanic Falls, Maine 04256 Posts: 62	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Here is the booster on my Roadrunner, it was a rebuilt unit as well, I used laquer thinner and then painted it with Dupli-Color cast iron engine paint. Suppose to be pretty good stuff, I did get some fluid on it while bleeding the brakes and wiped it right off, it is still fine. Attached Images

07-07-2009, 08:28 PM	#10
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Thanks for the info guys! Tom that is one slick MC. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

07-07-2009, 08:32 PM	#11
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Of course, I would use powdercoating. It's not going to come off with fluid spillage like paint will. I powdercoat all of my brake parts, master cylinder, calipers, everything. I charge 15 bucks to do a new master cylinder body. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin Last edited by Tx Firefighter; 07-07-2009 at 08:33 PM.

07-07-2009, 08:38 PM	#12
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Kevin, would you tear it apart, and then rebuild it after it's pc'd? And do you know of any issues that might come from PC'ing a MC? Have you seen any color options that would look close to natural cast? __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 07-07-2009 at 08:40 PM.

07-07-2009, 08:42 PM	#13
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder I don't think it's worth rebuilding one anymore. You can buy a rebuilt one for 20 bucks or so. I just get a rebuilt part, disassemble it, clean it, coat it, and reassemble. Cheapest way to go and you know you have a decent part when you're done. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

07-07-2009, 08:52 PM	#14
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Well, I actually already have a new MC for my install, so I might have to take PC'ing into consideration. Any colors that resemble cast? __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

07-07-2009, 08:55 PM	#15
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder POR 15 won't stay. Figured it would when I done mine. It was fine till I overfilled it then it peeled/ bubbled right off. I also tried the high heat paint from Autozone, don't waste your money on that either. Fine for a few weeks. I didn't use a prep on the metal, maybe a thinner would help to prep the surface which I will try again later in the week. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"



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07-07-2009, 08:59 PM	#16
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder My only question about pwdrcoating would be the amount of heat required to cook the coating. What effect that may have on the operation at a later date. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

07-07-2009, 09:01 PM	#17
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder That's kind of what I'm worried about... I guess the MC is just one of those never ending "paint required" pieces. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

07-08-2009, 10:33 PM	#21
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,701	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Hey Nate,... POL (Performance OnLine) now sells an aluminum version of your M/C. I wish I would have waited to get one of these for my '69. NO more rust problems! __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

07-10-2009, 07:47 AM	#22
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Prep/Paint for a new Master Cylinder Don't post that... I don't need to know that, I've already spent my money! __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

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