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08-14-2009, 04:54 PM | #1 |
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If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
First off I want to start this off that this is not a for sale thread in any way.
I recently picked up a 1967 c-10 4x4. So far I have installed a built 400sbc, rebuilt th400/208, It has a brand new 6" lift, 36" tsl super swamper radials, and corvette rallies, 80s 1/2ton running gear with discs up front and the power booster/mastercylinder from the same truck, also converted to power steering. My intentions are to fix it up really nice and then turn a big profit on it. Wanting to get $8000 plus when im done with it. So I got a few Questions: Are buddy buckets preffered by the masses? What else would you be looking for? would a modern cd player installed in the dash be a no go? doors being cut for speakers?
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08-14-2009, 05:05 PM | #2 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
For me personally I would rather have a modern CD in the glovebox and a factory radio in the dash. I wouldnt cut the doors I would put speakers in the kick panels. All that is so if a buyer wanted to do something else they still have the factory look and functions (mostly). I like both the two-tone colors but if it is lifted that much maybe shaving all the trim and going with a solid color would be good. And I dont really care for the buddy buckets, I think the bench seats look good if they are clean.
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08-14-2009, 05:14 PM | #3 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
If you want to sell it for profit, do not spend money on stuff like CD players and buddy buckets, you will not get your money back out of it. Keep it very basic and simple and focus on the cosmetics. It needs to be safe and drive ok but the cosmetics are what will sell the vehicle. New shiny red paint, nice classic wheels and tires and lots of exterior detailing will sell it. Never cut holes in anything. Don't make any permanent modifications because the new buyer may hate what you did. Personally, I would leave the stock AM radio in or cover the hole with an oem delete panel and let the new buyer worry about a stereo/CD player.
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08-14-2009, 05:15 PM | #4 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
For the radio I'd look at one of the new 2 post radios that have MP3 player hookups
I know in my new G8 as well as my DD Jetta I've used the CD players like 2 times in each, but use my IPOD in them all the time. As for the speakers I would avoid cutting on anything. |
08-14-2009, 05:21 PM | #5 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
Buddy buckets I can trade straight across for from a guy i know. My seat is in awesome shape, just wrong color, So i would have to have it re-upholstered anyway. Already got the cd player, came with the truck............installed in the dash. Trying to deceide if i need to get rid of it or not. also the doors were cut too. Just more stuff to add to the list of fixing i guess.
I personally like the look of the am radios in the dash. Thats what i did with my blazer and installed a cd player in the console. Just trying to build this to appeal to alot of people instead of what I think It has no trim on it at all so i dont have to worry about that.
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08-14-2009, 06:46 PM | #6 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
I'd get rid of that 208 t-case and put a 205 in. A wheeler would appreciate the upgrade. Or throw some chrome 30" rims on it and make it appealing to a different group of enthusiasts.
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08-14-2009, 07:34 PM | #7 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
I think the picture you will get is that everyone has a different idea of that they want in a truck and that trying to guess what your ultimate buyer wil want is a no win proposition. Build it as cheaply as possible if you are goin to sell it.
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08-14-2009, 07:43 PM | #8 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
I would like to get input from everyone to take a little from everyone, I realize there is no ONE truck for everyone, but would like to get a feel for what everyone looks for.
I Am only into this build a little under $2500 so far and dont mind spending a little to gain more. I love building these trucks and the experience i get from it. I have budgeted around $4000 and trade wherever i can I got a free paintjob comming for a trade in drywall work i did for a painter friend. Im not to worried about building it cheap as i can usually wheel and deal my way around. If you were gonna go out and drop 8k or more on a truck, what would you like to see and what would you look out for?
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08-14-2009, 07:59 PM | #9 |
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For $8K, I would need a rust free body, nice bed, good paint and body work, rebuilt engine, tranny and transfer case and maybe even rebuilt axles with lockers. Power steering and power disc would be needed, too. I would not care about much else. I don't need a/c, buddy seats, CD player, factory tach, fancy interior.
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08-14-2009, 08:07 PM | #10 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
Do not RIG anything, if you do something do something nice not extreme, like others said do not cut any holes.
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08-14-2009, 08:20 PM | #11 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
No lockers or different transfercase, When this thing is done its gonna be pretty. It will be a street queen for sure.
I was thinking about houndstooth interior and from what i am gathering no radio, just the stock am in the dash. My nieghbor offered 10k for my blazer and I had to turn it down, i love it too much. It is a looker though. I figured i could make it look pretty easily, but if someone is gonna pay good money for a truck its gonna be an enthusiast. So what other little details am i overlooking? It does have body filler in it, but it is very minimal, shaved donor bed marker lights, small dings, stuff like that. the motor is fully detailed and assmbled with stainless bolts, tranny is rebuilt and fully detailed as well as the transfercase.
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08-14-2009, 09:27 PM | #12 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
[QUOTE=bigbadchev72;3465046] I figured i could make it look pretty easily, but if someone is gonna pay good money for a truck its gonna be an enthusiast.
Someone who likes the truck may buy it the way you build it.As an enthusiast i would rather buy one close to what i want and do the work myself.Keep in mind there are a lot of people enthusiastic about old rides but they don't have the knowledge or desire to build one.They want to buy one and usually expect it to be like their new(whatever X brand grocery getter) is for reliability and comfort. The other thing to watch for is that most of the time a vehicle built for profit does not bring as much as the seller has in it.That's because of the above stated reason of people wanting to do them like they want.One guy may think not having lockers makes it useless,another may want A/C,super stereo and autyo butt wipe,so the differences in buyers may come to haunt you.
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08-14-2009, 10:15 PM | #13 |
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
new CD players look out of place in these rides, if you ask me. i understand the convenience factor of an mp3/cd player, but they don't look right next to all the other old looking stuff in the dash. if anything, go with a cd changer under the seat if you are gonna go that route.
Definitely don't cut holes in the doors for speakers. my '69 was previously restored by my grandfather and he cut two holes for 6x9's in each door because that was cool in 1990, and thats about the only mistake he made buddy buckets are overrated (IMHO), unless the truck originally came with them. go with a nice houndstooth seat cover. if i was spending 8k on an old truck, a nice interior, good or new paint/no rust, solid drivetrain (detailed) and good wheels/tires would be on my shopping list. to me it sounds like you're on the right track.
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
Hey Bigbadchevy! As you can see it's all subjective. If you already got holes in the doors you might as well put some speakers in there to cover the holes. My feelings about it come pretty close to what Mclairmo and Big_al_71 said. If you're gonna paint it try for a stock looking paint scheme. As far as the buddy buckets go if you can get them on a straight across trade you might wanna do it as it's a popular way to go. It really all depends on the buyer. If you get a guy who compares everything to the SPID you're dead. If you get a guy (or gal) who just likes what you did with the truck, Fat city! I heartily agree that whatever you do be conservative. No racing stripes, No slamming, No tubbing out the rear inner fenders and No induction hoods and No hot rod accessories! I personally think that most people want a nice, stock looking really clean truck. Let them buy it and put their own personalized garbage on it. Just my $.02.
P.S. A lot of people drool over factory tachs!
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
[QUOTE=bigbadchev72;3464797]First off I want to start this off that this is not a for sale thread in any way.
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
If I were looking to spend 8k on one of these trucks it better look like it's got 16k into it. There's just too many out there, and they're so cheap to build, to justify otherwise. If it looks like it could be duplicated for 8k, why not just build one yourself and get everything exactly as you want. See what I'm getting at? Personally I would want to see something as far from stock as possible. I'm not into having the same thing as everyone else.
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
for 8 k or more it would need to be.
1. lower mile unmolested/unmickey moused truck. 2. preferably one owner or bought from the first guy who is skimming off the top. 3. chevy or gmc above is subject to change at a moments notice
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
I would not put a lift on it - people will be a little suspicious as to how it was done.
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
The list i gave at the beginning is the way it is and what i am keeping so far. As far as being suspicious of how it was done, a look under the truck will reveal all the correct brakelines, steering, leaf springs and shocks.
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To give you some idea, I had this truck sold for 8k before I even got it finished... I told the guy that I had about a weeks worth of work left to do on it and in a week he was knocking on my door with the cash... It doesn't always work that way though. LockDoc
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Re: If you were gonna pay big money for a truck...........
Do the things that most people can't. For example, do the body work right. Have a quality paint job sprayed on. Get the seat reupholstered. Have the interior looking factory nice. Get it running well with NO leaks.
Anyone can cut the dash for a CD player, and the doors for speakers. Anyone can add tach and tilt. Those tings aren't that big of a deal. If you have money left over, and you feel you need to spice it up a bit, tach and tilt would be nice additions. Most important of all, concentrate on the pieces of the puzzle that tend to be the most tedious and time consuming. Get those taken care of, and you will open the doors to the most buyers.
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