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sailed2japan · 08-16-2009, 09:58 PM

Your lug nuts that is. I am trying to put center caps from a late model (2002-2007) truck on my 83 and the lugs nuts I have are metric. So where did you guys get your nuts? Oh, and it's a 3/4 ton...i think that may be important...

Driveway Dreams · 08-16-2009, 10:32 PM

Left...&...Right.
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Are you trying to find some that fit your original lug studs, and the new center caps? I guess I am not sure. Why don't the originals fit the caps?

sailed2japan · 08-17-2009, 04:01 AM

The 83 studs are SAE, not metric, and the original nuts don't have the threads to screw the little black plastic "nuts" onto.

dmartin1 · 08-17-2009, 05:26 AM

im a bit confused.

you wanna run the late model center caps on the older truck right?
so you woud need the lug nuts off the late model truck as they have the threads on the outside of them to screw the "black nuts" on the center cap onto.

is your problem that the late model lug nuts arent the right thread size to screw onto the older truck?

sailed2japan · 08-17-2009, 10:09 AM

The late model lug nuts are metric, the 83 wheel studs are not. So I want to know if I have to swap out all of my wheel studs or if there are different lug nuts, like off of a 90's series, that I can use instead.

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 10:25 AM

I ran across the same problem with my suburban the new stuff is 14MM the earlier is 9/16. i tapped the metric nuts to 9/16 a time consuming task but it worked.

**nlped** · 08-17-2009, 11:11 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, but if the original wheel studs on the older truck are 9/16 and the newer trucks are 14mm, aren't the older wheel studs slightly larger in diameter? If so, I don't think I would jeopardize myself or my vehicle by going clinebarger's route. I know that some companies use to offer conversion lug nuts for this, but I have only seen them in the 1/2" size.

**nlped** · 08-17-2009, 11:13 AM

Try these...

Item number: 350238586896

And a direct link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/32-LU...11310006r33784

smashingchuck · 08-17-2009, 11:17 AM

Nice find!

Driveway Dreams · 08-17-2009, 11:30 AM

A great find, that is woth keeping the info for. You know this will come up again.

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 01:04 PM

You dont have to drill them. i can see your concern nlped but it cut nice looking threads and i tested one on a junk truck and snaped the stud. 9/16 is bigger than 14 mm. if you want to buy 32 lug nuts go for it. its worked for 5 years even with tire shops over torqueing them.

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 01:19 PM

I looked at the listing i chould not find those when i was doing mine. How do you know there not tapping them like i did? Or are they cheap china junk?

I whould not tell somone this if i was not SURE it was safe.

**nlped** · 08-17-2009, 01:39 PM

I wasn't being critical, Clinebarger, just voicing a possible concern. The ones like this that I bought...way back...were actually made by Dorman, but I don't know who makes these. I was offering an option

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 01:44 PM

I didnt take it wrong. I whould have bought some if i knew about them.

**nlped** · 08-17-2009, 01:45 PM

10-4

*78 Chevyrado* · 08-17-2009, 02:24 PM

Buy some of these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/32-LU...Q5fAccessories

That's what I used They are just like the newer lug nuts except they have a 9/16-18 thread like the old trucks need. I have a set of these on mine, works like a charm.

*78 Chevyrado* · 08-17-2009, 02:27 PM

They are cheaper than the OE nuts, however you cannot tap the metric nuts for the 9/16 studs. You will only have half threads in there which is never good. I tried it on one of the metric nuts and it didn't work well.

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78 Chevyrado

They are cheaper than the OE nuts, however you cannot tap the metric nuts for the 9/16 studs. You will only have half threads in there which is never good. I tried it on one of the metric nuts and it didn't work well.

It DOES work. sounds like you didnt use any lube. wheel bearing grease works good. And trying not to plow through it in one shot helps too. If i can snap a stud off with them that tells me the stud is weaker than the nut

*78 Chevyrado* · 08-17-2009, 03:06 PM

I do this for a professional living and don't recommend it. thats my professional opinion. if you like a half assed job then do one. I'm not going to.

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 03:27 PM

You tap threads for a living? there is nothing half assed on my truck. And i too do alot of tapping and dieing at my job as a auto tech. But like i said earlier i whould have bought some if i knew of them. am i going to go out and buy them because im worried? NO. Ill try to get a good picture of the threads. but i think mine turned out good yours didnt

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 04:12 PM

by the way 78 chevyrado your truck looks good with those wheels. And i like the gray

sailed2japan · 08-17-2009, 04:59 PM

I picked up a set from "lugking2005" I'll report in on how good or bad they are when i get them. They probably are chinese crap, but what isnn't these days? I found a label on the wiring harness in my 2006 GMC canyon that said "made in china"

SO MUCH FOR BUYING AMERICAN!

clinebarger · 08-17-2009, 05:24 PM

I always try to buy american but thats hard to do. Good luck buddy

truckindude · 06-17-2011, 04:48 PM

his name is lugking2005

**hatzie** · 06-17-2011, 05:18 PM

I bought 32 SAE plastic hubcap lug nuts from an RV conversion van/truck outfit in Indiana. They had them ready in a plastic bag for me when I picked up my new (200 mile) 8 lug 2006 aluminum takeoff wheels. They warned me not to use the new nuts with my raggedy old wheels. The claim was the newer wheels have a different taper seat than the older SAE stuff.

My "originals" had to go anyway. They were a devil-may-care mix of long chrome acorns and standard nuts in at least 3 different hex drive sizes.

At least all the studs were not cross-threaded and were the same size.

08-16-2009, 09:58 PM	#1
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Tell me about your nuts..... Your lug nuts that is. I am trying to put center caps from a late model (2002-2007) truck on my 83 and the lugs nuts I have are metric. So where did you guys get your nuts? Oh, and it's a 3/4 ton...i think that may be important... __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

08-16-2009, 10:32 PM	#2
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08-17-2009, 04:01 AM	#3
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... The 83 studs are SAE, not metric, and the original nuts don't have the threads to screw the little black plastic "nuts" onto. __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR Last edited by sailed2japan; 08-17-2009 at 10:09 AM.

08-17-2009, 05:26 AM	#4
dmartin1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mohave valley,arizona Posts: 1,088	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... im a bit confused. you wanna run the late model center caps on the older truck right? so you woud need the lug nuts off the late model truck as they have the threads on the outside of them to screw the "black nuts" on the center cap onto. is your problem that the late model lug nuts arent the right thread size to screw onto the older truck?

08-17-2009, 10:09 AM	#5
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... The late model lug nuts are metric, the 83 wheel studs are not. So I want to know if I have to swap out all of my wheel studs or if there are different lug nuts, like off of a 90's series, that I can use instead. __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

08-17-2009, 10:25 AM	#6
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I ran across the same problem with my suburban the new stuff is 14MM the earlier is 9/16. i tapped the metric nuts to 9/16 a time consuming task but it worked.

08-17-2009, 11:11 AM	#7
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... Correct me if I am wrong, but if the original wheel studs on the older truck are 9/16 and the newer trucks are 14mm, aren't the older wheel studs slightly larger in diameter? If so, I don't think I would jeopardize myself or my vehicle by going clinebarger's route. I know that some companies use to offer conversion lug nuts for this, but I have only seen them in the 1/2" size. __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

08-17-2009, 11:13 AM	#8
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... Try these... Item number: 350238586896 And a direct link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/32-LU...11310006r33784 __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

08-17-2009, 11:17 AM	#9
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... Nice find! __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build

08-17-2009, 11:30 AM	#10
Driveway Dreams I have car A.D.D. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greeley, Northern Colorado Posts: 4,147	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... A great find, that is woth keeping the info for. You know this will come up again. __________________ -Gerald Building vehicles in memory of the first "car guy" I ever knew, my Grandpa. Bob Dunham 1935-2009. Rest in peace. 61 GMC Suburban SOLD The 86 build thread SOLD Are you a Colorado member?Click here.

08-17-2009, 01:04 PM	#11
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... You dont have to drill them. i can see your concern nlped but it cut nice looking threads and i tested one on a junk truck and snaped the stud. 9/16 is bigger than 14 mm. if you want to buy 32 lug nuts go for it. its worked for 5 years even with tire shops over torqueing them.

08-17-2009, 01:19 PM	#12
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I looked at the listing i chould not find those when i was doing mine. How do you know there not tapping them like i did? Or are they cheap china junk? I whould not tell somone this if i was not SURE it was safe.

08-17-2009, 01:39 PM	#13
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I wasn't being critical, Clinebarger, just voicing a possible concern. The ones like this that I bought...way back...were actually made by Dorman, but I don't know who makes these. I was offering an option __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

08-17-2009, 01:44 PM	#14
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I didnt take it wrong. I whould have bought some if i knew about them.

08-17-2009, 01:45 PM	#15
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... 10-4 __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha



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08-17-2009, 02:24 PM	#16
78 Chevyrado Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Unnapreciative, Trollville Posts: 2,079	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... Buy some of these. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/32-LU...Q5fAccessories That's what I used They are just like the newer lug nuts except they have a 9/16-18 thread like the old trucks need. I have a set of these on mine, works like a charm.

08-17-2009, 02:27 PM	#17
78 Chevyrado Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Unnapreciative, Trollville Posts: 2,079	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... They are cheaper than the OE nuts, however you cannot tap the metric nuts for the 9/16 studs. You will only have half threads in there which is never good. I tried it on one of the metric nuts and it didn't work well.

08-17-2009, 03:06 PM	#19
78 Chevyrado Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Unnapreciative, Trollville Posts: 2,079	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I do this for a professional living and don't recommend it. thats my professional opinion. if you like a half assed job then do one. I'm not going to.

08-17-2009, 03:27 PM	#20
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... You tap threads for a living? there is nothing half assed on my truck. And i too do alot of tapping and dieing at my job as a auto tech. But like i said earlier i whould have bought some if i knew of them. am i going to go out and buy them because im worried? NO. Ill try to get a good picture of the threads. but i think mine turned out good yours didnt

08-17-2009, 04:12 PM	#21
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... by the way 78 chevyrado your truck looks good with those wheels. And i like the gray

08-17-2009, 04:59 PM	#22
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I picked up a set from "lugking2005" I'll report in on how good or bad they are when i get them. They probably are chinese crap, but what isnn't these days? I found a label on the wiring harness in my 2006 GMC canyon that said "made in china" SO MUCH FOR BUYING AMERICAN! __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

08-17-2009, 05:24 PM	#23
clinebarger Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 6,370	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I always try to buy american but thats hard to do. Good luck buddy

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hatzie Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wentworth, NH Posts: 4,929	Re: Tell me about your nuts..... I bought 32 SAE plastic hubcap lug nuts from an RV conversion van/truck outfit in Indiana. They had them ready in a plastic bag for me when I picked up my new (200 mile) 8 lug 2006 aluminum takeoff wheels. They warned me not to use the new nuts with my raggedy old wheels. The claim was the newer wheels have a different taper seat than the older SAE stuff. My "originals" had to go anyway. They were a devil-may-care mix of long chrome acorns and standard nuts in at least 3 different hex drive sizes. At least all the studs were not cross-threaded and were the same size.

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