I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

7dguy · 08-25-2009, 02:30 AM

New member...hey guys.

Been looking long and hard for an honest 70 short, fleetside, wood, for going a year. Found one, 84K, date matching, honest spid, trim tag and original sale documentation in glove box. Nevada truck, no rust, orig paint, everything works. Orig AM radio still works, In dash tach, starts, runs and drives like new. Automatic, leaks a lot. Only thing noticably not original is the steering wheel itself but the column is perfect. Out of buyer fatigue, I chased the price to 9K. Glad to have it, but not sure if I am behind the fiancial curve or not?

As a related matter I am having trouble finding the production numbers for this truck.

7dguy

QKENUF4U · 08-25-2009, 02:36 AM

PICS PICS PICS PICS !!!!! sounds like a good deal to me but then i dont have one anymore and would much rather start with what you bought then do it over like i did on my 71 pro-street or 68 camaro......

Tim_A · 08-25-2009, 03:01 AM

The way you describe it, sounds like a good geal. If there is no rust at all (which I doubt, because it sounds like a miracle), all you have to do is repaint it and change the trim which is not a huge deal. Congratulations!
And one more thing, these trucks are toys, honestly. When buying a toy, who cares about the financial efficiency?

Tim_A · 08-25-2009, 03:03 AM

Oh yeah, and I have to paste this:

**El Jay** · 08-25-2009, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7dguy

New member here...hey guys.

So I have quite a love for 1970 chevy's. I have my Nova and have been looking long and hard for an honest 70 short, fleetside, wood, BB for going on a year now. Finally found one, numbers matching, 84K, numbers matching, build sheet, trim tag and original sale documentation in glove box. Nevada truck, sun rotted wood in rear, no rust whatsoever, orig paint, everything works...EVERYTHING. Great body lines, most of the vinyl is perfect, original dark gold paint, no AC but has vents, orig AM radio still works, In dash tach, starts, runs and drives like it was new. Automatic trans, has a few leaks here and there. Only thing I can find not original is the steering wheek itself but the column tiself is perfect. Remarkably honest truck from 2nd owner at a swap meet. I wanted to pay 7 grand but out of shopping fatigue, and after watching the crowd of impressed onlookers drewelling over it all day I gave him 9K. I'm thrilled regardless but from a valuation stanpoint, how far behind the fiancial curve am I starting on this one?

As a related matter I am having trouble finding the production numbers for this truck.

Thinking I might re-paint per factory color, re-trim it, re-seal it, new tires and rims and and perhaps consider a frame-off down the road when my kid get's his license.

7dguy

1st off, welcome, from Antioch.

The way I see it; if you were happy with the price & he was happy with payment, then nobody got screwed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim_A

Oh yeah, and I have to paste this:

Beat me to it!

**70cst** · 08-25-2009, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jay

1st off, welcome, from Antioch.

The way I see it; if you were happy with the price & he was happy with payment, then nobody got screwed.

Beat me to it!

x2 ... we all have opinions but what really counts is if your happy. 1970CST rocks in my opinion plus its a BB. As far as numbers...someone else will chime in. By the way ...

to the best internet site dedicated to the 67-72 Chevy and GMC trucks.

rwolf9653 · 08-25-2009, 08:00 AM

Why are you concerned with the financial curve? It sounds like you are going to keep this truck as part of your family, so what does it matter if you are not looking to re-sell it?
It is only worth what you are willing to give for it.

**Thealien** · 08-25-2009, 08:14 AM

Having been there I know how you feel. When I bought my Jimmy I started a thread buyers remorse. Whats done is done and move forward. Sounds like you have a nice truck. If it truly is rust free you are ahead of the curve. Rust repair can be either costly or time consuming (plenty of pictorials and build threads ). Big block another plus.

Get some pics and enjoy your truck, oh and welcome to a great resource!

big_al_71 · 08-25-2009, 08:28 AM

Buyers remorse?
Move forward post some picts....
welcome from miami

68gmsee · 08-25-2009, 09:44 AM

Welcome from Texas!!!

I guess I'll be the one tell you...... You got screwed, amigo!!!!
You'll be spending a lot more before you're through, especially if you pass it to your kids.

However, it sounds like you've been looking for this special truck and now you have it. Good luck and keep us posted.

*2tons of fun* · 08-25-2009, 09:55 AM

right off the bat you screwed yourself, you bought a vehicle at good guys, you can typicaly buy the same thing for 2/3 the cost on the street or internet.

sounds like a clone or a pimped up project, if it has the spid sheet it will list things like the tack dash and trim package.

turp mcspray · 08-25-2009, 10:24 AM

When you decide that you want a certain truck, of a certain year, with certain options, you really start to narrow down whats out there. As you said, you looked for a year. Every year that goes buy, this old stuff gets harder to find. I say if you found what you wanted and are happy with it then all is well. We all would like to stumble across our perfect dream vehicle sitting in some guys barn, a get it for a song. If you are willing to spend a lifetime waiting, it may happen. Most of us aren't that lucky! LOL!

Custom 68 · 08-25-2009, 11:22 AM

ah they are worth what ever people will pay. Sounds like a nice truck
Dave

mclairmo · 08-25-2009, 02:03 PM

If it truly is a factory Big Block short bed with zero rust then it was a fair price, IMO. Not a great deal but a decent and fair buy. However, even if you overpaid, you got a truck that is close to finished and drives great. In the end, I think you will be ahead of someone that started with a beater, like me. Fixing rust, finding and building a big block and sorting out all the little things takes so much time and money. You have short cutted most of that.

**68jewel** · 08-25-2009, 04:18 PM

You didn't get screwed bro. It costs to play. And if it's truly what you said it is and just described here to us, it was a fair price. Trust me, you were ready to pay $7k for it and that extra $2k came from the other guys crowding around it that was about to buy it if you didn't. You'll will start to fell a bit better about the truck once you begin to drive it and other guys come up to you offering to buy it from you. Also, you'll get instant gratification from the light-to-light attention you'll get. Welcome!! And as you've heard a million times on here.........WHERE'S THE DAMN PICS? LOL!!!

BossHogg69 · 08-25-2009, 04:27 PM

How dare you go on and on about a SWB, rust free, big block truck with this and that and not post a PIC???

Well, you're part of the club now, so I guess you're forgiven - now post a pic of it already!

LOW DOUGH · 08-25-2009, 04:51 PM

Welcome!

We need PICS

VA72C10 · 08-25-2009, 05:06 PM

Welcome from VA and like most have said, the value is what someone will pay and with the options you've listed in the condition, and what YOU wanted it's worth it. I'm sure there are several on here that have paid around that much for just body parts, labor, and body work to restore a truck so you're ahead of the curve and can enjoy it now.

arm51 · 08-25-2009, 10:02 PM

welcome from southern illinois congrads on the deal but seriously

unclewatts · 08-25-2009, 10:11 PM

From Lake county California! Your gonna love this board. By the way, if you can afford 9 thousand dollars for a truck, you can afford to buy a cheap digital camera and post some PICS!

Jacfourteen · 08-26-2009, 12:21 AM

Sounds like a good price to me if it's all that you say it is. Welcome to the board, from Oroville, CA....just down the road from you (about 100 miles anyways, lol), but I am a student at UC Davis which is alot closer to you! I'm with everyone else though, we need pics!

7dguy · 08-26-2009, 12:27 AM

Thanks guys; most of you anyway.

Not remorseful whatsoever, just seeing if I'm indeed the couple grand behind to begin with that I suspect I might be (depending on it's scarcity). This ain't my first rodeo...it is indeed a numbers matching BB and the factory tach is mentioned on build sheet, aling with the trim package, tinted windows, L47 396 and so on... Block matches the vin and the tranny and rear are date correct. It's the real deal with only a few dings that can be removed by a tinsmith (no stretched metal). Believe it or not there is no rust under the paint anywhere, not a bubble in sight...not even on the rocker panels. The truck spent it's life in a barn in the Nevada desert. Perfect body lines everywhere. But she she needs paint very badly and the wood is sunrotted so bad you can see the metal cross members in a few areas.

REAL QUESTION IS: How many of these little creatures were made? (Short, Wood, Fleet, CST/10 400)

The truck really only needs re-sealed, paint, trim pieces, rims and tires. Debating on a frameoff because it is just so clean underneath and it drives PERFECTLY...runs like a sewing machine, tight steering suspension and tranny. Stance is perfect too. EVERYTHING works on the truck; every light, switch and knob. Doors open and close effortlessly. Tailgate has scratches only, no dents at all and it's not bent. It's ugly as hell but I actually drove the old gal to soccer practice tonight and it's such a gentle ride.

My dilemna is that it's SUCH a quality starting point on one hand (deserving a proper resoration IMHO) vs. a new factory matched colored paint job and calling it a day. Problem is it's dark gold (Fugly!).

I will oblige with a few pics when I get it back out of the hanger. I put her away for a couple months while I finish some things on my 70 Nova.

Thanks again for the insights...

QKENUF4U · 08-26-2009, 12:55 AM

so show us the NOVA !!!

Jim_PA · 08-26-2009, 01:18 AM

You can hardly buy a top of the line ATV or Snowmobile for 9K these days. If it's complete, and lacks rust, sounds like a good deal to me.

7dguy · 08-26-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QKENUF4U

so show us the NOVA !!!

Here she is: http://s704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/canovaguy/7DSS/

08-25-2009, 02:30 AM	#1
7dguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: vacaville, ca Posts: 92	What's it worth? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? New member...hey guys. Been looking long and hard for an honest 70 short, fleetside, wood, for going a year. Found one, 84K, date matching, honest spid, trim tag and original sale documentation in glove box. Nevada truck, no rust, orig paint, everything works. Orig AM radio still works, In dash tach, starts, runs and drives like new. Automatic, leaks a lot. Only thing noticably not original is the steering wheel itself but the column is perfect. Out of buyer fatigue, I chased the price to 9K. Glad to have it, but not sure if I am behind the fiancial curve or not? As a related matter I am having trouble finding the production numbers for this truck. 7dguy Last edited by 7dguy; 09-24-2010 at 04:04 PM.

08-25-2009, 02:36 AM	#2
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? PICS PICS PICS PICS !!!!! sounds like a good deal to me but then i dont have one anymore and would much rather start with what you bought then do it over like i did on my 71 pro-street or 68 camaro......

08-25-2009, 03:01 AM	#3
Tim_A Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 62	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? The way you describe it, sounds like a good geal. If there is no rust at all (which I doubt, because it sounds like a miracle), all you have to do is repaint it and change the trim which is not a huge deal. Congratulations! And one more thing, these trucks are toys, honestly. When buying a toy, who cares about the financial efficiency? __________________ '67 Impala '69 Chevy 350 C-10 shortstep

08-25-2009, 03:03 AM	#4
Tim_A Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 62	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Oh yeah, and I have to paste this: __________________ '67 Impala '69 Chevy 350 C-10 shortstep Last edited by Tim_A; 08-25-2009 at 03:03 AM.

08-25-2009, 08:00 AM	#7
rwolf9653 more ideas than money Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: spring grove, pa Posts: 1,068	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Why are you concerned with the financial curve? It sounds like you are going to keep this truck as part of your family, so what does it matter if you are not looking to re-sell it? It is only worth what you are willing to give for it. __________________ Randy 1948 Chevy 3100 5 window 1966 Chevy C30 Dually 1967 Chevy K10 1972 Chevy K20 1972 Chevy C10 1972 Chevy K5 Blazer 1987 Chevy V10 2003 Chevy Suburban

08-25-2009, 08:14 AM	#8
Thealien Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pine Ridge Florida Posts: 4,135	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Having been there I know how you feel. When I bought my Jimmy I started a thread buyers remorse. Whats done is done and move forward. Sounds like you have a nice truck. If it truly is rust free you are ahead of the curve. Rust repair can be either costly or time consuming (plenty of pictorials and build threads ). Big block another plus. Get some pics and enjoy your truck, oh and welcome to a great resource!

08-25-2009, 08:28 AM	#9
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Buyers remorse? Move forward post some picts.... welcome from miami __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

08-25-2009, 09:44 AM	#10
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Welcome from Texas!!! I guess I'll be the one tell you...... You got screwed, amigo!!!! You'll be spending a lot more before you're through, especially if you pass it to your kids. However, it sounds like you've been looking for this special truck and now you have it. Good luck and keep us posted.

08-25-2009, 09:55 AM	#11
2tons of fun Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: galt ca, Posts: 749	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? right off the bat you screwed yourself, you bought a vehicle at good guys, you can typicaly buy the same thing for 2/3 the cost on the street or internet. sounds like a clone or a pimped up project, if it has the spid sheet it will list things like the tack dash and trim package.

08-25-2009, 10:24 AM	#12
turp mcspray Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rapid City South Dakota Posts: 2,359	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? When you decide that you want a certain truck, of a certain year, with certain options, you really start to narrow down whats out there. As you said, you looked for a year. Every year that goes buy, this old stuff gets harder to find. I say if you found what you wanted and are happy with it then all is well. We all would like to stumble across our perfect dream vehicle sitting in some guys barn, a get it for a song. If you are willing to spend a lifetime waiting, it may happen. Most of us aren't that lucky! LOL! __________________ Turp Mcspray New life for an old 2wd, farm blazer http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=505987 My Blazer build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342299

08-25-2009, 11:22 AM	#13
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,939	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? ah they are worth what ever people will pay. Sounds like a nice truck Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

08-25-2009, 02:03 PM	#14
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? If it truly is a factory Big Block short bed with zero rust then it was a fair price, IMO. Not a great deal but a decent and fair buy. However, even if you overpaid, you got a truck that is close to finished and drives great. In the end, I think you will be ahead of someone that started with a beater, like me. Fixing rust, finding and building a big block and sorting out all the little things takes so much time and money. You have short cutted most of that.

08-25-2009, 04:18 PM	#15
68jewel On the path to financial ruin! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 722	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? You didn't get screwed bro. It costs to play. And if it's truly what you said it is and just described here to us, it was a fair price. Trust me, you were ready to pay $7k for it and that extra $2k came from the other guys crowding around it that was about to buy it if you didn't. You'll will start to fell a bit better about the truck once you begin to drive it and other guys come up to you offering to buy it from you. Also, you'll get instant gratification from the light-to-light attention you'll get. Welcome!! And as you've heard a million times on here.........WHERE'S THE DAMN PICS? LOL!!! __________________ *'72 Chevelle SS--4.0 Whipple LS7, T56 Magnum, 20X9/20X13 HRE 791R, 6-piston Baer brakes, IRS '68 SWB C10--LS3, TKO-600, 22x10/22x12 HRE 948R, C5 suspension, shockwaves, custom frame Ooh Wee's Makeover*...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=376280

08-25-2009, 04:27 PM	#16
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? How dare you go on and on about a SWB, rust free, big block truck with this and that and not post a PIC??? Well, you're part of the club now, so I guess you're forgiven - now post a pic of it already! __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

08-25-2009, 04:51 PM	#17
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08-25-2009, 05:06 PM	#18
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,267	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Welcome from VA and like most have said, the value is what someone will pay and with the options you've listed in the condition, and what YOU wanted it's worth it. I'm sure there are several on here that have paid around that much for just body parts, labor, and body work to restore a truck so you're ahead of the curve and can enjoy it now. __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

08-25-2009, 10:02 PM	#19
arm51 beer me Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: west frankfort illinois Posts: 129	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? welcome from southern illinois congrads on the deal but seriously __________________ 1969 c10 currently on hold because of a darn f**d 1986 f150 1986 silverado-my dads truck that i'm fixin up ill keep my freedom my guns my money my religion and you can keep your CHANGE-hank williams jr

08-25-2009, 10:11 PM	#20
unclewatts 70 Chevrolet=Obsession Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nice ca Posts: 1,067	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? From Lake county California! Your gonna love this board. By the way, if you can afford 9 thousand dollars for a truck, you can afford to buy a cheap digital camera and post some PICS! __________________ I'm Just like my truck. Old, Ugly and Grouchy. Except my truck starts easily in the morning and doesn't smoke! IT'S NOT EASY BEING GREEN! -Kermit the frog 1970 Chevrolet C-10 Longbed Stepside : 350, Muncie M20, 3.08 GM corp. positraction Forest green exterior/light green interior(Where all my money goes) 1996 Toyota Corolla (Parts runner)

08-26-2009, 12:21 AM	#21
Jacfourteen Big Red - Now its a SWB! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oroville, Ca Posts: 1,624	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Sounds like a good price to me if it's all that you say it is. Welcome to the board, from Oroville, CA....just down the road from you (about 100 miles anyways, lol), but I am a student at UC Davis which is alot closer to you! I'm with everyone else though, we need pics! __________________ 68 3/4 ton (Project)-350 Small Block, .030 over, 10:1 comp, 3998993 heads, C3BX edelbrock intake, comp cams XE268, Holley 670 SA, long tube headers, dual flow 40's, E-fan, Alum rad, currently under the knife getting shortened and bagged build thread 41 3/4 ton (wife's)-flatbed, fully restored to original 01 Tahoe LT 4WD (my daily driver)-Magnaflow Muffler, Rollin on 22's 02 Ford Mustang Convertable (Wife's Car)-Flowmaster 50, Clear corners, Intake, sittin on 18's

08-26-2009, 12:27 AM	#22
7dguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: vacaville, ca Posts: 92	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? Thanks guys; most of you anyway. Not remorseful whatsoever, just seeing if I'm indeed the couple grand behind to begin with that I suspect I might be (depending on it's scarcity). This ain't my first rodeo...it is indeed a numbers matching BB and the factory tach is mentioned on build sheet, aling with the trim package, tinted windows, L47 396 and so on... Block matches the vin and the tranny and rear are date correct. It's the real deal with only a few dings that can be removed by a tinsmith (no stretched metal). Believe it or not there is no rust under the paint anywhere, not a bubble in sight...not even on the rocker panels. The truck spent it's life in a barn in the Nevada desert. Perfect body lines everywhere. But she she needs paint very badly and the wood is sunrotted so bad you can see the metal cross members in a few areas. REAL QUESTION IS: How many of these little creatures were made? (Short, Wood, Fleet, CST/10 400) The truck really only needs re-sealed, paint, trim pieces, rims and tires. Debating on a frameoff because it is just so clean underneath and it drives PERFECTLY...runs like a sewing machine, tight steering suspension and tranny. Stance is perfect too. EVERYTHING works on the truck; every light, switch and knob. Doors open and close effortlessly. Tailgate has scratches only, no dents at all and it's not bent. It's ugly as hell but I actually drove the old gal to soccer practice tonight and it's such a gentle ride. My dilemna is that it's SUCH a quality starting point on one hand (deserving a proper resoration IMHO) vs. a new factory matched colored paint job and calling it a day. Problem is it's dark gold (Fugly!). I will oblige with a few pics when I get it back out of the hanger. I put her away for a couple months while I finish some things on my 70 Nova. Thanks again for the insights...

08-26-2009, 12:55 AM	#23
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? so show us the NOVA !!!

08-26-2009, 01:18 AM	#24
Jim_PA Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: PA Posts: 2,696	Re: I get screwed? 70 CST/10 400, Short Fleet? You can hardly buy a top of the line ATV or Snowmobile for 9K these days. If it's complete, and lacks rust, sounds like a good deal to me.

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