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Old 08-27-2009, 04:34 PM   #1
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Finally Finished my 462ci Build

Here's my 462ci that will go into my '63 C-10. Did the break-in this week, and will be getting ready for some 6000 rpm dyno pulls soon. On the last 5000 rpm pulls, it made (with no correction factor) 517 bhp at 5000 rpm and 580 ft-lb at 4200 rpms.

Thanks to David Basham of BMS Machine for the great machine work, and to Jeff Kauffman of Kauffman Racing Equipment for all of the trick parts and components. Eddie Leabo of Performance Carburetors built the 750 carb and Machine Tech Racing Engines is doing the break-in, tuning and, eventually, dyno pulls.


On the warm up stand...
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:49 PM   #2
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Wow, that's killer. Awesome that you're going against the grain with the Pontiac motor. Very cool.
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On the last 5000 rpm pulls, it made (with no correction factor) 517 bhp at 5000 rpm and 580 ft-lb at 4200 rpms.
Outstandingly Unique!

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Old 08-27-2009, 06:09 PM   #4
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Glorious!

Post a video of that sucker howling!
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:06 PM   #5
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Re: Finally Finished my 462ci Build

I only have short vid I took with my little camera while it was on the warm up stand...that I can't seem to be able to post.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:11 PM   #6
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Here's my 462ci that will go into my '63 C-10. Did the break-in this week, and will be getting ready for some 6000 rpm dyno pulls soon. On the last 5000 rpm pulls, it made (with no correction factor) 517 bhp at 5000 rpm and 580 ft-lb at 4200 rpms.

Thanks to David Basham of BMS Machine for the great machine work, and to Jeff Kauffman of Kauffman Racing Equipment for all of the trick parts and components. Eddie Leabo of Performance Carburetors built the 750 carb and Machine Tech Racing Engines is doing the break-in, tuning and, eventually, dyno pulls.


On the warm up stand...
Hey, now cut it out!!!!
You are gonna get some guys all riled up when they realize the torque that Poncho makes.....
I have a 69FB with a 462 as well. Which cam did you go with?
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Hey, now cut it out!!!!
You are gonna get some guys all riled up when they realize the torque that Poncho makes.....
I have a 69FB with a 462 as well. Which cam did you go with?
Thanks! Yeah, I'm not sure people realize anymore that they came 510 ft-lb from the factory. I went with a Comp for a hydraulic roller set up.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:39 PM   #8
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Thanks! Yeah, I'm not sure people realize anymore that they came 510 ft-lb from the factory. I went with a Comp for a hydraulic roller set up.
Cool! I used the Comp HR cam from SD Performance called "Old Faithful". 236/245/112. Engine is being built right now and should be in the car next week.
Starting at ~2000 RPM it should deliver ~525 ft lbs and peak close to ~580.
Check out this video of another Poncho at the track with similar motor, cam, etc....
http://www.youtube.com/user/nsedm76ta

Kinda feel sorry for my rear tires......Hehehehehehe
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Starting at ~2000 RPM it should deliver ~525 ft lbs and peak close to ~580.
Wow! That's quite a bit more than mine at 2000 rpm...my engine was putting out 480.7 ft-lb. at 2000 rpm.

Here's my other Pontiac...it's about 410 ci

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Old 08-28-2009, 12:18 AM   #10
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Wow! That's quite a bit more than mine at 2000 rpm...my engine was putting out 480.7 ft-lb. at 2000 rpm.

Here's my other Pontiac...it's about 410 ci

I have a WOODY!!!!!
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:38 AM   #11
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That's a great looking engine. Ought to run as good as it looks. I'd like to see a vid as well.
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Those Pontiac and Buick engines are great torque producing monsters!
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #13
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Cool! I used the Comp HR cam from SD Performance called "Old Faithful". 236/245/112. Engine is being built right now and should be in the car next week.
Very cool! Yep, that 'old faithful' is a great cam...Jeff Kauffman has a similar cam that I hear works just as good or better with his heads (little more intake duration and 110 lobe sep...I think).

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Thanks...I just wish I had a '63 GMC to put it in. The '63 Chevy I have was the only one worth building after searching for several years. I'll get some footage of the real dyno pulls and post it.
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Now that there is a motor!!! Cant wait to see it launch...
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:43 PM   #15
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that is gonna be BAD in your truck......I can't wait for some burnout vids
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Wow Vince thats awesome!
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COOL!

I have a 455 torn down at a machine shop- has sat there for about 6 years, as the local drag strip shut down. Lucky before I spent the big $$. It was to be built as a copy of Jim Hand's engine.

My wife asked me if I was putting it in my '63. She is a great wife. I'm saving the pontiac for the future, but did sell the firebird it was to go in and trying to sell the built TH400
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Wow Vince thats awesome!
Thanks! Yeah, it was long haul (no pun intended)...lots of starts and stops along the way. Seems to work out that way when you have to trade and barter for parts that you need. The only thing I paid for besides my buddy's shop time was the carburetor - I've never had a new carburetor. LOL

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I have a 455 torn down at a machine shop- has sat there for about 6 years, as the local drag strip shut down. Lucky before I spent the big $$. It was to be built as a copy of Jim Hand's engine.

My wife asked me if I was putting it in my '63. She is a great wife. I'm saving the pontiac for the future, but did sell the firebird it was to go in and trying to sell the built TH400
Sounds like you and I might have enough combined to complete a project. I have a clutch hydro 400 and can, narrowed BOP rearend housing, a Pontiac three-rib third member. We just need a Tempest to throw it all into.
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Thanks! Yeah, it was long haul (no pun intended)...lots of starts and stops along the way. Seems to work out that way when you have to trade and barter for parts that you need. The only thing I paid for besides my buddy's shop time was the carburetor - I've never had a new carburetor. LOL



Sounds like you and I might have enough combined to complete a project. I have a clutch hydro 400 and can, narrowed BOP rearend housing, a Pontiac three-rib third member. We just need a Tempest to throw it all into.
Pontiacs are my first love.. Dad raised me around them.. I've owned a ton..

Im looking for a 63 Tempest/Lemans to build a street strip car.. 60s theme as usual for me..

Heres dads old goat at Famoso Raceway in bakersfield. Pic taken in early 90s


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Pontiacs are my first love.. Dad raised me around them.. I've owned a ton..

Im looking for a 63 Tempest/Lemans to build a street strip car.. 60s theme as usual for me..

Heres dads old goat at Famoso Raceway in bakersfield. Pic taken in early 90s

Very cool! Yep, me too - first family car I remember was the '67 Tempest - I loved that car. A '63 Tempest is what I always wanted to build, too; '60s theme street strip car, as well. But, that dream is getting dimmer. I still have most of the parts that I want to throw at it (I even have a pristine 4-bolt 455 block)...just need a good candidate. My Pontiac-powered C-10 will have to do for now.
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Update on the 462 Pontiac

After working on other peoples' rides for a couple of months, I finally got around to final dyno pulls, mocking up the pulley drive system (the ATI Super Damper and the crank trigger wheel is making alignment a PITA) and making cardboard templates for the two-piece motor plates.

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Thanks! Yeah, I'm not sure people realize anymore that they came 510 ft-lb from the factory. I went with a Comp for a hydraulic roller set up.
yea my 70 gsx 455 stage one pulls 510 that sounds right
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WOW- Nice motor
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My brother had a 66 Lemans for his first car with a GTO hood. Everybody THOUGHT it was a GTO!

I love those old Trans Ams!
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Re: Finally Finished my 462ci Build

Here are the motor plates cut out of 6061 T6, contoured and bolted to the machined area of the heads. I'm finishing up the steel mount plates and will weld them to the down bars shortly.

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