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Old 08-31-2009, 10:14 PM   #1
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front spindles

hey guys, read a few posts on here about if you use 71-72 disk brake spindles on a 70 and eariler there is a noticable difference in the width of the front and rear? just wondering if anybody got pics of there trucks that have done this? thanks
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:54 PM   #2
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Re: front spindles

i"m in I have been woundering myself for my 70
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Re: front spindles

IIRC it's about 3/4 in per side.I do know my lowering spindles(on a 68) moved the fronts out about 3/4-1 in each side.If you're going to run aftermarket wheels and haven't ordered them yet you could adjust by backspacing.
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Re: front spindles

was looking at running the truck or vette ralleys, do you think these will be a problem? PanelDeLand, how much drop have you got in the front? im looking at a 2/4.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:10 PM   #5
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Re: front spindles

I bagged mine, which makes the lower control arms horizontal instead of angled a little, and dropped spindles and disk brakes. I gained almost an inch and a half per side.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:19 PM   #6
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Re: front spindles

how do your wheels fit when you drop it I cupped my LCA so I get 2 1/2" more than you my tire just clear my inner fender support???? eeeeek.... I want drop spindle jst not sure if that and the disc brakes will get it to far out to clear??
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:20 PM   #7
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Re: front spindles

Well, if the 71-72's move em out 3/4" then I can't wait to see what my 79' spindles look like! lol
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:45 PM   #8
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I have a 2 1/2 spindle drop.IIRC someone mentioned that there is a vendor selling spindles or maybe spindles and arms that bring the wheels back in.I don't know where I read that so I wouldn't know where to search.
I can see the difference in mine but most people wouldn't know.I'm running 6 lug rallies and someday may swap to a steely with offsets to correct.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:51 PM   #9
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Re: front spindles

CPP now has spindles that will not kick out your wheels the additional 3/4" on either side. I saw a guy at Brothers truck show that was running them, and he said they were fantastic.
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:26 PM   #10
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Re: front spindles

I've got 2" dropped spindles from ECE with 1.5" dropped springs. The wheels are 15x8 all around. I don't know the back-spacing. I wouldn't worry about the 3/4" unless you plan on running 20's.
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I have a 2 1/2 spindle drop.IIRC someone mentioned that there is a vendor selling spindles or maybe spindles and arms that bring the wheels back in.I don't know where I read that so I wouldn't know where to search.
I can see the difference in mine but most people wouldn't know.I'm running 6 lug rallies and someday may swap to a steely with offsets to correct.
any chance you have a pic of that I want to covert but have big dreams of having 20's some day and with as much drop as I have things are close now...If I put drop spindles I'm going to be into other issues ( like heater box and inner fenders) I like the idea now of dumping and still not rubbing ( tire size is 235/75/15 on stock 6 lug rallies)
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Re: front spindles

In the end the 3/4" on each side (1.5" overall) isn't that big of a deal, but there's a lot of factors you must consider.

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Which year rearend you are running? (67-70 was narrower than the 71-72)

I recently dropped my truck 4.5" (2.5" drop spindle 2" drop spring) up front and I didn't rub with my 15x8 235 75R15's... however, they were a little to close for comfort for me. I was watching every pot hole to make sure I didn't bottom out on my inner/outer fenders. Also I didn't like the wide track from with a narrow rear end.

If you are going to go big wheels (20"+) then you can order your wheels with the correct BS to accomodate the change.

If you are going to run 5-lug setup, then you might consider upgrading your rearend as well.

Just a few things to consider...
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Re: front spindles

BTW... check out Classic Performance Parts (CPP) www.classicperform.com for more info on the modular spindle.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:51 PM   #14
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Re: front spindles

i like the height and wheels security guy. 20's are out for me, not my style. just wanting the disk setup for better braking. the 3/4 inch looks like it wouldnt be a big deal. will i need 71-72 ball joints for factory spindles? or are they the same for all years?
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Re: front spindles

When I put the ECE dropped spindles on my '69, then reinstalled the same 15x8 wheels, I noticed that they were jutting out into the opening and could contact the inside of the wheel opening w/o any real warning. So, I replaced the front wheels with 15x7's and no more interference.

When I put a set of Wheel Vintiques vette-style rallye wheels on it, I went to a 15x8 up front with a 4-inch backspace and a 15x10 on the back with a 5-inch backspace. I like the way it sat and the way it looked. Looking down the side of the truck let me see that they were well-placed in spite of the fact that the front track is wider than the rear wheel track.
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Re: front spindles

hottrucks,I don't have a pic that shows the offset well.It's really only noticeable in a down the side veiw.I will try to get a pic this weekend.
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I hope you can see the difference from these pics.It's not much but if you know.....
BTW Those are 235/70-15 front and 255/70-15 rear on 8 in 15 rallies all the way around
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Re: front spindles

well I found a deal if I can catch it on a set of 20's so I guess they will fit one way or another.... my only fear is the fronts and a 10" wide rim but we'll see soon enough if the wheels don't get sold I'm picking them up monday
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Re: front spindles

I kinda would need a from the ground up view so I could see where it might hit the fender....or maybe a board against the tire up to the wheel well.....I might get and extra 1/4" because the a arms are pulling everything in a bit at drop

thanx by the way nice burb we never see any of those up in this part of the world
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PanelDeLand,Security Guy thanks for the pics not as bad as i was thinking it would be. nice looking rides BTW
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