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Metal · 10-01-2009, 10:17 AM

Drove a 60 mile round trip this morning never shut off the truck..Got home shut if off and unloaded the new tires..Took all of 10 min.. I got back in it to crank it up and nothing..

Every thing lights up but I do not hear the fuel pump and the starter does not even click.Is there a fuse I should be looking for??

Thanks!!!!

Metal · 10-01-2009, 10:26 AM

Well it sat for 10 mins and if started right up????????????????????????

Any idea's?

Benelli · 10-01-2009, 11:27 AM

starting system is not fused.
that's really all the help i have, besides checking the odvious looking for bad connections to battery or ground, or if the fuel pump went at an odd time.

JWall · 10-01-2009, 12:32 PM

Not saying for sure it is your fuel pump but, I did have a fuel pump go out that randomly on my 94.
I backed it out of the garage on a Friday night to dust it off for a car show the next morning, it started just fine. I then dusted and wiped on the truck for about 10 to 15 minutes, went to start it to pull it back into the garage and nothing...the replaced the fuel pump the next morning.

ChevLoRay · 10-01-2009, 01:35 PM

If the positive cables, which are stacked, have any corrosion between them in spite of how clean the battery terminals look.....no current flow. In addition, that corrosion will eat up the bolt that holds the pair of cables to the battery......trust me. Sounds like it's worth a look-see.

jb1016 · 10-01-2009, 03:26 PM

I was gonna say fuel pump, but I've never heard of one not working, then working again. Chev's suggestion about the battery cables is as good a place to start as any.

JWall · 10-01-2009, 03:49 PM

Also, there is a fuel pump relay under the black plastic cover on the pass. side firewall.
I would check it too.

I replaced mine before I did my fuel pump. It was cheap and worth taking the gamble. I would've hated to change the fuel pump and it be that relay.

**bwood** · 10-01-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal

Every thing lights up but I do not hear the fuel pump and the starter does not even click.Is there a fuse I should be looking for??

Thanks!!!!

This make me think bad connections at the battery or a weak battery.

benoit454 · 10-01-2009, 06:20 PM

exactly mine would ALWAYS have hot start problems. It start fine and run until up to temp, then it crank forever and never start, let it set longer and it start up fine.

You can try what they told me, if it does it again hook a jumper cable off the battery hot to the jnuction box under the cover on the pass. side firewall, if it starts then the main feed for the junction box is bad and needs cleaned or changed.

If still nothing then maybe the main hot is bad going to the starter, which since you had lights would probably be the case. I had everything cranking and all but mine would loose all power while it cranked to everything, only the starer had power.

SwampDonkey · 10-02-2009, 12:46 AM

mine did this too, i ended up putting a new negative ground terminal on. definatley check your battery ground, or also the ground running from the batt to the starter. those are the two places that had issues on mine when it did that.

cayoterun · 10-02-2009, 01:40 AM

We ran our '97 dually all day towing, pulled in and fueled up, no start. Called wrecker, Wrecker driver had me turn ignition switch on, crawled under, hit the fuel tank with his fist. Fuel pump started and I drove it to his shop. Killed it to unhook TT. Wouldn't start again, so he towed into his shop to replace fuel pump.

Metal · 10-02-2009, 07:48 AM

It did it again last night.. I was unloading some firewood backed down to almost the same spot. This time every thing works but it wont start. I can hear the fuel pump and the starter is spinning...I let it sit for a few hours but still would not start..I have had trouble like this before and it always seems to happen when I am facing up a steep hill. Most of the time I can back down to a level spot and it will fire up this time I have no way to back it I will have to pull it up the hill...O and yes there is gas in it

It has decided to rain today so I may not get to look at it today..I will clean and check the battery cables as soon as I can..

Thanks...........

BigBlocksRule · 10-02-2009, 07:57 AM

My bet is that your starter is going out. When the bushings get badly worn, it lets the armature come in very close contact with the stator windings and they kinda glue together with magnetic attraction. Slide under the truck and whack it a couple of good licks with a Ford wrench and if that helps, there's your problem. Been there, done that, exact same scenario.

twcarman · 10-02-2009, 08:10 AM

How much gas do you have in the truck? It could be the pickup tube inside the tank.

Metal · 10-04-2009, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twcarman

How much gas do you have in the truck? It could be the pickup tube inside the tank.

That's is what I thought at first too but it had a 1/4 of a tank....Hopefully that's is enough to shut off your truck on a slope....

I went out yesterday and cleaned the battery cables. They did not look dirty but they got a good cleaning any way... Then I went after the wires under the junction box I had in the past 2 weeks redone the 3 ground wires under there so this time I cleaned all the hot wires.. One did look dirty it was the first on the left of the strip..I guess I have to wait and see if this fixed it.

Thanks for all the help...

Metal · 10-09-2009, 10:16 PM

Just want to say thanks!!!!!

Truck seems to be running fine now.....

JohnC · 10-10-2009, 05:20 PM

Glad it's going again. If it does it again I think I would check the starter. Could just be the beginning of it going south.

Metal · 10-10-2009, 07:52 PM

Will do ......

Thanks..

10-01-2009, 10:17 AM	#1
Metal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tn Posts: 286	Here is a good one...... Drove a 60 mile round trip this morning never shut off the truck..Got home shut if off and unloaded the new tires..Took all of 10 min.. I got back in it to crank it up and nothing.. Every thing lights up but I do not hear the fuel pump and the starter does not even click.Is there a fuse I should be looking for?? Thanks!!!! __________________ "If at first you don't succeed use more duct tape" Red Green.... Danger --if you meet it promptly and without flinching -- you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! -Winston Churchill A few of my holsters.............

10-01-2009, 10:26 AM	#2
Metal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tn Posts: 286	Re: Here is a good one...... Well it sat for 10 mins and if started right up???????????????????????? Any idea's? __________________ "If at first you don't succeed use more duct tape" Red Green.... Danger --if you meet it promptly and without flinching -- you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! -Winston Churchill A few of my holsters.............

10-01-2009, 11:27 AM	#3
Benelli Watchin the rust grow Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Nebraska Posts: 950	Re: Here is a good one...... starting system is not fused. that's really all the help i have, besides checking the odvious looking for bad connections to battery or ground, or if the fuel pump went at an odd time. __________________ 1979 Chevy K10 (H/D Front end) - 350 w/ Holley Truck Avenger, Weinald Intake manifold, headers, bored .060 over, mild cam, Built up TH350 (TranStar Shift kit) with a part-timed NP203 t-case SOLD ($3,000) 1997 Chevy Silverado 1500 - 4.3 vortec, extended cab, 21 highway MPG, stock. "Red" SOLD ($3,000) 1987 Toyota 4wd Pick-up - work in progress, future DD SOLD ($1,850) 1998 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 5spd Quad cab - old 12 valve with some work done 2004 Chevy Silverado - Black, 4x4, 5.3L, stock for now Underneath that rust is a heart of gold

10-01-2009, 12:32 PM	#4
JWall Frequent Flyer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 2,258	Re: Here is a good one...... Not saying for sure it is your fuel pump but, I did have a fuel pump go out that randomly on my 94. I backed it out of the garage on a Friday night to dust it off for a car show the next morning, it started just fine. I then dusted and wiped on the truck for about 10 to 15 minutes, went to start it to pull it back into the garage and nothing...the replaced the fuel pump the next morning.

10-01-2009, 01:35 PM	#5
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Here is a good one...... If the positive cables, which are stacked, have any corrosion between them in spite of how clean the battery terminals look.....no current flow. In addition, that corrosion will eat up the bolt that holds the pair of cables to the battery......trust me. Sounds like it's worth a look-see. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

10-01-2009, 03:49 PM	#7
JWall Frequent Flyer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 2,258	Re: Here is a good one...... Also, there is a fuel pump relay under the black plastic cover on the pass. side firewall. I would check it too. I replaced mine before I did my fuel pump. It was cheap and worth taking the gamble. I would've hated to change the fuel pump and it be that relay.

10-01-2009, 06:20 PM	#9
benoit454 Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Monaville, WV Posts: 3,737	Re: Here is a good one...... exactly mine would ALWAYS have hot start problems. It start fine and run until up to temp, then it crank forever and never start, let it set longer and it start up fine. You can try what they told me, if it does it again hook a jumper cable off the battery hot to the jnuction box under the cover on the pass. side firewall, if it starts then the main feed for the junction box is bad and needs cleaned or changed. If still nothing then maybe the main hot is bad going to the starter, which since you had lights would probably be the case. I had everything cranking and all but mine would loose all power while it cranked to everything, only the starer had power. __________________ Chris GIT R DONE!!!!!! Check out all our rides, http://www.cardomain.com/id/benwa454

10-02-2009, 12:46 AM	#10
SwampDonkey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weare NH Posts: 110	Re: Here is a good one...... mine did this too, i ended up putting a new negative ground terminal on. definatley check your battery ground, or also the ground running from the batt to the starter. those are the two places that had issues on mine when it did that.

10-02-2009, 01:40 AM	#11
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: Here is a good one...... We ran our '97 dually all day towing, pulled in and fueled up, no start. Called wrecker, Wrecker driver had me turn ignition switch on, crawled under, hit the fuel tank with his fist. Fuel pump started and I drove it to his shop. Killed it to unhook TT. Wouldn't start again, so he towed into his shop to replace fuel pump. __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500.

10-02-2009, 07:48 AM	#12
Metal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tn Posts: 286	Re: Here is a good one...... It did it again last night.. I was unloading some firewood backed down to almost the same spot. This time every thing works but it wont start. I can hear the fuel pump and the starter is spinning...I let it sit for a few hours but still would not start..I have had trouble like this before and it always seems to happen when I am facing up a steep hill. Most of the time I can back down to a level spot and it will fire up this time I have no way to back it I will have to pull it up the hill...O and yes there is gas in it It has decided to rain today so I may not get to look at it today..I will clean and check the battery cables as soon as I can.. Thanks........... __________________ "If at first you don't succeed use more duct tape" Red Green.... Danger --if you meet it promptly and without flinching -- you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! -Winston Churchill A few of my holsters.............

10-02-2009, 07:57 AM	#13
BigBlocksRule Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 2,047	Re: Here is a good one...... My bet is that your starter is going out. When the bushings get badly worn, it lets the armature come in very close contact with the stator windings and they kinda glue together with magnetic attraction. Slide under the truck and whack it a couple of good licks with a Ford wrench and if that helps, there's your problem. Been there, done that, exact same scenario.

10-02-2009, 08:10 AM	#14
twcarman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Denver, North Carolina Posts: 44	Re: Here is a good one...... How much gas do you have in the truck? It could be the pickup tube inside the tank.

10-09-2009, 10:16 PM	#16
Metal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tn Posts: 286	Re: Here is a good one...... Just want to say thanks!!!!! Truck seems to be running fine now..... __________________ "If at first you don't succeed use more duct tape" Red Green.... Danger --if you meet it promptly and without flinching -- you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! -Winston Churchill A few of my holsters.............

10-10-2009, 05:20 PM	#17
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: Here is a good one...... Glad it's going again. If it does it again I think I would check the starter. Could just be the beginning of it going south.

10-10-2009, 07:52 PM	#18
Metal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tn Posts: 286	Re: Here is a good one...... Will do ...... Thanks.. __________________ "If at first you don't succeed use more duct tape" Red Green.... Danger --if you meet it promptly and without flinching -- you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never! -Winston Churchill A few of my holsters.............



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