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JJ · 10-05-2009, 02:05 AM

I've got the blue spicer hubs on my 72 K-20, the previous owner had both of them sitting in the cab in a coffee can, totally disassembled. Anyone have a good exploded drawing of both sides?

70 beast · 10-06-2009, 01:05 PM

i found one by searching "external locking hubs" on google.

Billhilly · 10-06-2009, 05:07 PM

This is the origonal Dana service bulletin. Pretty much covers it all.

http://www2.dana.com/pdf/5305.pdf

JJ · 10-06-2009, 09:32 PM

Billhilly,
Thank you very much. That was perfect, just what I'd been searching for.
I didn't have much luck googling it earlier. I did get a nice recipe for spice cookies with blue sprinkles though.

Billhilly · 10-06-2009, 09:43 PM

LOL. So how did the cookies turn out!

Bill.

**D.PASSMORE** · 10-06-2009, 10:11 PM

Try This...

cobinder · 10-07-2009, 09:06 PM

Where can I get two of the plated outside rings that are as pretty as those in the pic?

**71blksuper4x4** · 10-08-2009, 12:03 AM

You can't...... his are NOS, and they aren't easy to locate. You will need to get yours replated if you want them really nice. Trevor

cjthor · 10-08-2009, 12:46 AM

Stupid noob question. Are the spicers a good hub? I would expect so but everyone runs warns. I have orange spicers..cant find much info about em.

JJ · 10-08-2009, 01:22 AM

Billhilly,
I gotta tell ya, those cookies weren't bad. But I think I'll stick to powdercoating in that oven!!
I printed that whole manual out, on good paper. I'm going to be keeping that one awhile.
JJ

JJ · 10-08-2009, 01:25 AM

D.PASSMORE,
Thanks for that picture. I see you have the blue and yellow actuating knobs, if you see another set of good blue ones let me know. Mine are in pretty good shape overall. I got the whole rolling chassis out in Canby awhile back.
JJ

cobinder · 10-08-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71blksuper4x4

You can't...... his are NOS, and they aren't easy to locate. You will need to get yours replated if you want them really nice. Trevor

Mine are bashed and scraped, plating them wouldn't be pretty. If anybody knows of a NOS set I'd buy them.

cjthor, they aren't the best hubs out there. Thats why the design was changed in the mid late 70's to an internal locking design. These hubs are external design.

Billhilly · 10-09-2009, 12:06 AM

Cobinder, I managed to find a pair of Ferd ones last year. Brand new. Can't help with another set, but they are/were out there.
D.PASSMORE, looks like a great pile of bits there. Is the 'inner clutch gear' (red arrow) available somewhere online, or was that all NOS? I have one that has been broken, then repaired. A spare might be a good idea. What about the other two parts (blue arrows)?

Bill.

**71blksuper4x4** · 10-09-2009, 12:27 AM

All of David's setup here was all NOS stuff. Last time he had the whole setup for sale, I believe he was asking $600. A really fair deal on all of the parts you get. The chrome knobs and blue centers in good shape I have seen sell for as high as $400 on ebay. All the spicer stuff is getting harder to come by. You can still find the Ford (Red) knobs NOS but the blue and yellow are almost non existent anymore. There was a site though, Billhilly, that did have some hub parts that were for old spicer units. My cpu crashed since I saved the site years back, so I can't help ya out with it, but you might be able to find a few items for these still. Trevor

Billhilly · 10-09-2009, 12:35 AM

Thanks Trevor. I figured that might be the case. I'll get some second hand bits sometime.
I too am looking for some blue knobs. Mine were cracked (but repairable) so I took them to a plastic welder guy expecting a small weld bead, and he wrecked them with a massive black weld that nearly cooked them. And so I learn! I'll post a wanted to buy and see what turns up.

morgan71 · 10-09-2009, 11:41 AM

this what you are looking for?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-...item2303489a1f

JJ · 10-20-2009, 01:59 AM

Okay, the information on the hubs was awesome. New question.... Anyone know where I can find similar information on the Eaton HO52 rear?

**special-K** · 10-20-2009, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjthor

Stupid noob question. Are the spicers a good hub? I would expect so but everyone runs warns. I have orange spicers..cant find much info about em.

Yes,they are very good quality.Good enough that most have lasted 40 years +/-.They are as good as or better than anything the factory has done since.GM efed up with going to full-time and most trucks were converted back to part-time with manual hubs.then,they went to automatic locking hubs (external) which have proven to be not as stout as manuals.So,it`s back to manual locking external hubs again.The reason you see Warn hubs installed so much is because they are to the aftermarket what spicer was to the factory.They are the big rime producer o the product.The later factory hubs were made by Warn.Warn came along with l/o hubs to be installed on all the early 4wds that came with no l/o option and grew from there.Jees were their prime market for many many years.

10-05-2009, 02:05 AM	#1
JJ Lurking Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Forest Grove, OR USA Posts: 196	Spicer Hubs I've got the blue spicer hubs on my 72 K-20, the previous owner had both of them sitting in the cab in a coffee can, totally disassembled. Anyone have a good exploded drawing of both sides? __________________ JJ 72 GMC 1500 350 4 Speed, stone stock baby!!!!! 72 GMC K-2500 350TPI 700R4 For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Last edited by JJ; 10-05-2009 at 02:06 AM. Reason: Spell check!!!

10-06-2009, 01:05 PM	#2
70 beast Certified Hobbiest Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 384	Re: Spicer Hubs i found one by searching "external locking hubs" on google. __________________ my jimmy build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=352536

10-06-2009, 05:07 PM	#3
Billhilly Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand. Posts: 782	Re: Spicer Hubs This is the origonal Dana service bulletin. Pretty much covers it all. http://www2.dana.com/pdf/5305.pdf __________________ 1972 K2500 Long Box 400/350

10-06-2009, 09:32 PM	#4
JJ Lurking Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Forest Grove, OR USA Posts: 196	Re: Spicer Hubs Billhilly, Thank you very much. That was perfect, just what I'd been searching for. I didn't have much luck googling it earlier. I did get a nice recipe for spice cookies with blue sprinkles though. __________________ JJ 72 GMC 1500 350 4 Speed, stone stock baby!!!!! 72 GMC K-2500 350TPI 700R4 For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

10-06-2009, 09:43 PM	#5
Billhilly Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand. Posts: 782	Re: Spicer Hubs LOL. So how did the cookies turn out! Bill. __________________ 1972 K2500 Long Box 400/350

10-06-2009, 10:11 PM	#6
D.PASSMORE One of the First Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: St. Augustine,FL. Posts: 4,055	Re: Spicer Hubs Try This... Attached Images __________________ DAVID PASSMORE ST AUGUSTINE ,FL ZIP 32084 '71 SWB K/10 CUSTOM DELUXE (Chili) '72 BLAZER K/5 Muscle Truck (Mule) '72 LWB K/20 CHEYENNE (Blackie)

10-07-2009, 09:06 PM	#7
cobinder Everything is work in progress Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 326	Re: Spicer Hubs Where can I get two of the plated outside rings that are as pretty as those in the pic? __________________ Good luck with your truck! How much?! It's just an old truck part!! 49 International on a 80 GMC 3/4ton 4x4 chassis 48 International KB-5 2 ton dump bed 04 Honda CRF "500" 09 Honda CRF450 fuel injected rocket 03 Suzuki hayabusa carbonfiber wheeled monster. 02 Ford diesel stretch van (toy hauler) 01 38' Monaco diesel pusher motorhome

10-08-2009, 12:03 AM	#8
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,151	Re: Spicer Hubs You can't...... his are NOS, and they aren't easy to locate. You will need to get yours replated if you want them really nice. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

10-08-2009, 12:46 AM	#9
cjthor Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Damascus OR Posts: 24	Re: Spicer Hubs Stupid noob question. Are the spicers a good hub? I would expect so but everyone runs warns. I have orange spicers..cant find much info about em.

10-08-2009, 01:22 AM	#10
JJ Lurking Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Forest Grove, OR USA Posts: 196	Re: Spicer Hubs Billhilly, I gotta tell ya, those cookies weren't bad. But I think I'll stick to powdercoating in that oven!! I printed that whole manual out, on good paper. I'm going to be keeping that one awhile. JJ __________________ JJ 72 GMC 1500 350 4 Speed, stone stock baby!!!!! 72 GMC K-2500 350TPI 700R4 For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

10-08-2009, 01:25 AM	#11
JJ Lurking Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Forest Grove, OR USA Posts: 196	Re: Spicer Hubs D.PASSMORE, Thanks for that picture. I see you have the blue and yellow actuating knobs, if you see another set of good blue ones let me know. Mine are in pretty good shape overall. I got the whole rolling chassis out in Canby awhile back. JJ __________________ JJ 72 GMC 1500 350 4 Speed, stone stock baby!!!!! 72 GMC K-2500 350TPI 700R4 For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

10-09-2009, 12:06 AM	#13
Billhilly Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand. Posts: 782	Re: Spicer Hubs Cobinder, I managed to find a pair of Ferd ones last year. Brand new. Can't help with another set, but they are/were out there. D.PASSMORE, looks like a great pile of bits there. Is the 'inner clutch gear' (red arrow) available somewhere online, or was that all NOS? I have one that has been broken, then repaired. A spare might be a good idea. What about the other two parts (blue arrows)? Bill. Attached Images __________________ 1972 K2500 Long Box 400/350

10-09-2009, 12:27 AM	#14
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,151	Re: Spicer Hubs All of David's setup here was all NOS stuff. Last time he had the whole setup for sale, I believe he was asking $600. A really fair deal on all of the parts you get. The chrome knobs and blue centers in good shape I have seen sell for as high as $400 on ebay. All the spicer stuff is getting harder to come by. You can still find the Ford (Red) knobs NOS but the blue and yellow are almost non existent anymore. There was a site though, Billhilly, that did have some hub parts that were for old spicer units. My cpu crashed since I saved the site years back, so I can't help ya out with it, but you might be able to find a few items for these still. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

10-09-2009, 12:35 AM	#15
Billhilly Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand. Posts: 782	Re: Spicer Hubs Thanks Trevor. I figured that might be the case. I'll get some second hand bits sometime. I too am looking for some blue knobs. Mine were cracked (but repairable) so I took them to a plastic welder guy expecting a small weld bead, and he wrecked them with a massive black weld that nearly cooked them. And so I learn! I'll post a wanted to buy and see what turns up. __________________ 1972 K2500 Long Box 400/350

10-09-2009, 11:41 AM	#16
morgan71 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Perry OK Posts: 121	Re: Spicer Hubs this what you are looking for?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-...item2303489a1f



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10-20-2009, 01:59 AM	#17
JJ Lurking Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Forest Grove, OR USA Posts: 196	Re: Spicer Hubs Okay, the information on the hubs was awesome. New question.... Anyone know where I can find similar information on the Eaton HO52 rear? __________________ JJ 72 GMC 1500 350 4 Speed, stone stock baby!!!!! 72 GMC K-2500 350TPI 700R4 For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

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