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Diablo de la Noche · 10-12-2009, 09:57 PM

The frame on my 67 has an upward bend on the top, on the right side of the front half of the engine compartment. Looks like it was bent to make room for something. The left side doesn't have this. I noticed that a lot of pix of frames also have this bend. Anybody know the reason?

*Dylan · 10-12-2009, 11:34 PM

I take it you're talking about the drivers side? I believe that it's provisions for a power steering set-up.

Diablo de la Noche · 10-12-2009, 11:40 PM

It's actually on the passenger side. I have a 350, so I don't have any idea what it does, except wear a hole in the radiator hose!

unclewatts · 10-12-2009, 11:43 PM

I may be wrong but I noticed that too. There is also that same kind of bend downward halfway down the frame on the bottom flange on both rails. The impression that I get from it is those are high stress points on the frame and the factory made those to provide extra strength. I hope a knowledgeable person who knows will post the answer.

*Puropedo* · 10-12-2009, 11:55 PM

I have always wonder that same thing, my opinion would be "frame clearance for the fuel pump when pulling/installing a V8 engine?

*Puropedo* · 10-13-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by unclewatts

I may be wrong but I noticed that too. There is also that same kind of bend downward halfway down the frame on the bottom flange on both rails. The impression that I get from it is those are high stress points on the frame and the factory made those to provide extra strength. I hope a knowledgeable person who knows will post the answer.

I do happen to know why those bends on the bottom of some chassis are for, some people think those are there for the tranny crossmemer to slide out but negative, those bends were made for clearance of the factory muffler hangers...67s 68s didnt came with those, not sure about 69-70 but all 71-72s have them. I actually cut those off when I shortened my LWB chassis ( just in case I decide to lay frame in the future )

sweet70beast · 10-13-2009, 12:32 AM

If it's a bend that goes for roughly 6-9 inches and is lengthwise with the frame, it's to clear the fuel pump on a big block. I'm not sure why a 67 would have one because I always thot that 68 was the first year for a big block. My 72 GMC that I used to have had a 402 BB and if not for that bend up portion in the frame the fuel pump would have rubbed.

Diablo de la Noche · 10-13-2009, 12:43 AM

If 67's aren't supposed to have them, that would mean my frame is not a 67? Great. The plot thickens. I think the PO must have went to a junk yard, plucked a bunch of parts, and built a franken-gmc. Now I know how to make it run: Lightening! Just need a lightening rod and a storm!

sweet70beast · 10-13-2009, 12:47 AM

We have a 67 Chev at our shop I'll have to go look at it and see if it has the bend in it. Mabe yours is a very late 67 and they were gearing up for 68s with a big block. I'll let you know what I find out and take some pics. Jared

*Puropedo* · 10-13-2009, 01:04 AM

Diablo, Im sure all 67-72s have that "passanger engine side bend" on the chassis, also I think it was not just designed only for the "big block engines" but for all V8s.

Longhorn Man · 10-13-2009, 01:23 AM

i had always thought bbc fuel pump too, but, I was shon on here, it is oil filter clearance for an inline... which is why a 67 would have it.

**special-K** · 10-13-2009, 07:57 AM

They may not have offered a big block until`68,but they knew it in`67.

*Puropedo* · 10-13-2009, 01:38 PM

Longhorn man is totally right, I've never own a truck with an inline six, but I do have one of those engines out there and the oil filter does seem to stick out into the frame bend direction.

sweet70beast · 10-13-2009, 11:26 PM

After doing some checking I believe the 6 cylinder filter aswell.
I checked the 67 and it was there, can't see it in the pic very well.

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I even checked Derric's (KDRodworks316) 65 Suburban and sure enough it has one too. We all know that no 66 and earlier had a big block from the factory. These are better pics.

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RustyParts · 10-14-2009, 01:10 PM

I looked at my Jimmy and it looks like the bend in the frame is there to prevent the lower radiator hose from cutting into the frame. I have the pre molded factory type lower hose. Who knows??????

GMC406 · 10-14-2009, 01:18 PM

Maybe it was meant to serve many purposes?

nsuengineer06 · 10-14-2009, 03:12 PM

My 67 frame:

mclairmo · 10-14-2009, 05:05 PM

I've always been told it is for Big Block fuel pump clearance and I've seen a few installed and they do come very close to the frame right there.

**passthebuck** · 10-14-2009, 08:10 PM

Look at 250ci inline six trucks. It looks to me as if it's so you can put a long oil filter on them.

10-12-2009, 09:57 PM	#1
Diablo de la Noche Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 142	Trivia, curious The frame on my 67 has an upward bend on the top, on the right side of the front half of the engine compartment. Looks like it was bent to make room for something. The left side doesn't have this. I noticed that a lot of pix of frames also have this bend. Anybody know the reason?

10-12-2009, 11:34 PM	#2
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Trivia, curious I take it you're talking about the drivers side? I believe that it's provisions for a power steering set-up. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

10-12-2009, 11:40 PM	#3
Diablo de la Noche Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 142	Re: Trivia, curious It's actually on the passenger side. I have a 350, so I don't have any idea what it does, except wear a hole in the radiator hose!

10-12-2009, 11:43 PM	#4
unclewatts 70 Chevrolet=Obsession Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nice ca Posts: 1,067	Re: Trivia, curious I may be wrong but I noticed that too. There is also that same kind of bend downward halfway down the frame on the bottom flange on both rails. The impression that I get from it is those are high stress points on the frame and the factory made those to provide extra strength. I hope a knowledgeable person who knows will post the answer. __________________ I'm Just like my truck. Old, Ugly and Grouchy. Except my truck starts easily in the morning and doesn't smoke! IT'S NOT EASY BEING GREEN! -Kermit the frog 1970 Chevrolet C-10 Longbed Stepside : 350, Muncie M20, 3.08 GM corp. positraction Forest green exterior/light green interior(Where all my money goes) 1996 Toyota Corolla (Parts runner) Last edited by unclewatts; 10-12-2009 at 11:44 PM.

10-12-2009, 11:55 PM	#5
Puropedo Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Prunedale California Posts: 782	Re: Trivia, curious I have always wonder that same thing, my opinion would be "frame clearance for the fuel pump when pulling/installing a V8 engine?

10-13-2009, 12:32 AM	#7
sweet70beast Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shelley Idaho Posts: 876	Re: Trivia, curious If it's a bend that goes for roughly 6-9 inches and is lengthwise with the frame, it's to clear the fuel pump on a big block. I'm not sure why a 67 would have one because I always thot that 68 was the first year for a big block. My 72 GMC that I used to have had a 402 BB and if not for that bend up portion in the frame the fuel pump would have rubbed. __________________ 1970 Nova 327/T5 (my 1st car) 1971 K-20 350/350/205 (winter DD) 1953 GMC Suburban 1968 Chevy Bel Air 1976 Chev C-10 1972 Skylark (suncoupe) 1 of 3943 made

10-13-2009, 12:43 AM	#8
Diablo de la Noche Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 142	Re: Trivia, curious If 67's aren't supposed to have them, that would mean my frame is not a 67? Great. The plot thickens. I think the PO must have went to a junk yard, plucked a bunch of parts, and built a franken-gmc. Now I know how to make it run: Lightening! Just need a lightening rod and a storm!

10-13-2009, 12:47 AM	#9
sweet70beast Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shelley Idaho Posts: 876	Re: Trivia, curious We have a 67 Chev at our shop I'll have to go look at it and see if it has the bend in it. Mabe yours is a very late 67 and they were gearing up for 68s with a big block. I'll let you know what I find out and take some pics. Jared __________________ 1970 Nova 327/T5 (my 1st car) 1971 K-20 350/350/205 (winter DD) 1953 GMC Suburban 1968 Chevy Bel Air 1976 Chev C-10 1972 Skylark (suncoupe) 1 of 3943 made Last edited by sweet70beast; 10-13-2009 at 12:48 AM.

10-13-2009, 01:04 AM	#10
Puropedo Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Prunedale California Posts: 782	Re: Trivia, curious Diablo, Im sure all 67-72s have that "passanger engine side bend" on the chassis, also I think it was not just designed only for the "big block engines" but for all V8s.

10-13-2009, 01:23 AM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Trivia, curious i had always thought bbc fuel pump too, but, I was shon on here, it is oil filter clearance for an inline... which is why a 67 would have it.

10-13-2009, 07:57 AM	#12
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Trivia, curious They may not have offered a big block until`68,but they knew it in`67. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-13-2009, 01:38 PM	#13
Puropedo Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Prunedale California Posts: 782	Re: Trivia, curious Longhorn man is totally right, I've never own a truck with an inline six, but I do have one of those engines out there and the oil filter does seem to stick out into the frame bend direction.

10-13-2009, 11:26 PM	#14
sweet70beast Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shelley Idaho Posts: 876	Re: Trivia, curious After doing some checking I believe the 6 cylinder filter aswell. I checked the 67 and it was there, can't see it in the pic very well. [IMG][/IMG] I even checked Derric's (KDRodworks316) 65 Suburban and sure enough it has one too. We all know that no 66 and earlier had a big block from the factory. These are better pics. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] __________________ 1970 Nova 327/T5 (my 1st car) 1971 K-20 350/350/205 (winter DD) 1953 GMC Suburban 1968 Chevy Bel Air 1976 Chev C-10 1972 Skylark (suncoupe) 1 of 3943 made Last edited by sweet70beast; 10-13-2009 at 11:28 PM.

10-14-2009, 01:10 PM	#15
RustyParts Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wyman, Kentucky Posts: 403	Re: Trivia, curious I looked at my Jimmy and it looks like the bend in the frame is there to prevent the lower radiator hose from cutting into the frame. I have the pre molded factory type lower hose. Who knows?????? __________________ 1972 GMC Jimmy, 4WD, 454 CI, 350 Turbo, 4" lift, 35" tires The math teacher said my son "Bubba" could be a mathmatical genius. cause he's got 13 fingers!

10-14-2009, 01:18 PM	#16
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10-14-2009, 03:12 PM	#17
nsuengineer06 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Natchitoches, Louisiana Posts: 230	Re: Trivia, curious My 67 frame: __________________ 1967 C10 LWB 454/TH400 1971 C10 SWB 1984 C30 LWB Dually 454/4 spd 4:10 2003 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew 4x4 6.6L Duramax/Allison

10-14-2009, 05:05 PM	#18
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: Trivia, curious I've always been told it is for Big Block fuel pump clearance and I've seen a few installed and they do come very close to the frame right there.

10-14-2009, 08:10 PM	#19
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	Re: Trivia, curious Look at 250ci inline six trucks. It looks to me as if it's so you can put a long oil filter on them. __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

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