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pritch · 10-12-2009, 11:42 PM

While cleaning and sandblasting this rear coil spring cup, I discovered this crack:

A few minutes with the dremel grider to groove along the crack a little bit. Do both sides:

The picture of the weld didn't come out very good, but a few minutes more with the peanut grinder, then back to the dremel:

A little bit more sandblast and good as new:

I could have easily ordered a new one, and then it probably wouldn't be quite the same as the other so I'd have to get another-maybe 20 bucks or so for the pair. Instead I spent 20 minutes and bought some satisfaction with the money I saved.

jbristo67 · 10-13-2009, 07:30 AM

I just ordered new ones

**special-K** · 10-13-2009, 07:53 AM

There`s more than one way to skin a cat.

Somethin' soulful about fixin'.

big_al_71 · 10-13-2009, 07:58 AM

Thats 20 minutes of life that you will never get back from your ticking clock.....

good job

, I would of just ordered two new ones though.....

Sinister · 10-13-2009, 08:20 AM

Good as new. Nice work.

72BlckButy · 10-13-2009, 08:23 AM

Nice work, and savyness (sp?).

**70cst** · 10-13-2009, 09:15 AM

Impressive...nice work!

Tx Firefighter · 10-13-2009, 11:33 AM

Good job Pritch. I'm right there with you on this deal.

Why would anyone waste money ordering one of those and waiting for it to be delivered when they could fix the old one in just a few minutes ?

I'd bet I could fix that in the same time as someone looking it up on the internet and placing an order for a new one.

ChevLoRay · 10-13-2009, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=special-K;3566161]There`s more than one way to skin a cat.

QUOTE]....besides stickin' his head in a boot shuck and yankin' on his tail....

71tahoe · 10-13-2009, 04:11 PM

[quote=ChevLoRay;3566494]

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

There`s more than one way to skin a cat.

QUOTE]....besides stickin' his head in a boot shuck and yankin' on his tail....

That's a disturbing image...

Kudos on fixing the spring retainer.

Ben IV · 10-13-2009, 08:55 PM

I orderd new ones, but then again the previous owner used a wheelbearing and a plate with a hole in it in place of the cup.

Tx Firefighter · 10-13-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben IV

I orderd new ones, but then again the previous owner used a wheelbearing and a plate with a hole in it in place of the cup.

Sounds like you had an Oklahoma certified repairman working on that thing in the past.

mclairmo · 10-13-2009, 10:51 PM

I commend you on repairing this yourself but I was just wondering if that crack is an indication of a more widespread, systemic and serious problem with that part. Was the steel used inferior to begin with to cause that crack? Was the part stressed beyond spec to cause the crack? Was the part exposed to extreme and adverse environmental conditions? Considering what the part went through to cause that large a crack, how safe is the metal now? Has the structure of the part been forever and irreversibly compromised? Would a new part give one enough peace of mind to validate the purchase of new and warrant the added cost? Is the risk that this part may fail and send a coil spring through the bed unjustifiable given the price of new? Or is the quality of a new repro just as bad as a cracked and repaired oem unit?

67ChevyRedneck · 10-13-2009, 11:19 PM

Crack is whack!

drewdude92 · 10-13-2009, 11:25 PM

hey now on the oklahoma comment....haha

BOOB · 10-13-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mclairmo

I commend you on repairing this yourself but I was just wondering if that crack is an indication of a more widespread, systemic and serious problem with that part. Was the steel used inferior to begin with to cause that crack? Was the part stressed beyond spec to cause the crack? Was the part exposed to extreme and adverse environmental conditions? Considering what the part went through to cause that large a crack, how safe is the metal now? Has the structure of the part been forever and irreversibly compromised? Would a new part give one enough peace of mind to validate the purchase of new and warrant the added cost? Is the risk that this part may fail and send a coil spring through the bed unjustifiable given the price of new? Or is the quality of a new repro just as bad as a cracked and repaired oem unit?

It obviously went through some hell to crack if it wasn't defective from the factory. If you think about it the cup does no more that simply locate the coil on top of the control arm. You could easily bottom out the shocks befor the coil come even close to extending to the point that it pulls on the cup.

Something to think about.

**N2TRUX** · 10-14-2009, 08:54 AM

It took 40 years to crack that far. His repaired piece might crack too, but it will be another 40 years before it matters.

10-12-2009, 11:42 PM	#1
pritch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hoytsville, Utah Posts: 3,365	TX Firefighter-This what you're talking about? While cleaning and sandblasting this rear coil spring cup, I discovered this crack: A few minutes with the dremel grider to groove along the crack a little bit. Do both sides: The picture of the weld didn't come out very good, but a few minutes more with the peanut grinder, then back to the dremel: A little bit more sandblast and good as new: I could have easily ordered a new one, and then it probably wouldn't be quite the same as the other so I'd have to get another-maybe 20 bucks or so for the pair. Instead I spent 20 minutes and bought some satisfaction with the money I saved. __________________ '68 Panel Project Boogie Chillin' '68 C-10 Ol' Green

10-13-2009, 07:30 AM	#2
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10-13-2009, 07:53 AM	#3
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10-13-2009, 07:58 AM	#4
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10-13-2009, 08:20 AM	#5
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10-13-2009, 08:23 AM	#6
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10-13-2009, 09:15 AM	#7
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10-13-2009, 11:33 AM	#8
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10-13-2009, 12:44 PM	#9
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: TX Firefighter-This what you're talking about? [QUOTE=special-K;3566161]There`s more than one way to skin a cat.QUOTE]....besides stickin' his head in a boot shuck and yankin' on his tail.... __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

10-13-2009, 08:55 PM	#11
Ben IV Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Glenpool OK Posts: 255	Re: TX Firefighter-This what you're talking about? I orderd new ones, but then again the previous owner used a wheelbearing and a plate with a hole in it in place of the cup. __________________ 70 GMC custom short bed conversion 69 GMC panel truck

10-13-2009, 10:51 PM	#13
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: TX Firefighter-This what you're talking about? I commend you on repairing this yourself but I was just wondering if that crack is an indication of a more widespread, systemic and serious problem with that part. Was the steel used inferior to begin with to cause that crack? Was the part stressed beyond spec to cause the crack? Was the part exposed to extreme and adverse environmental conditions? Considering what the part went through to cause that large a crack, how safe is the metal now? Has the structure of the part been forever and irreversibly compromised? Would a new part give one enough peace of mind to validate the purchase of new and warrant the added cost? Is the risk that this part may fail and send a coil spring through the bed unjustifiable given the price of new? Or is the quality of a new repro just as bad as a cracked and repaired oem unit? Last edited by mclairmo; 10-13-2009 at 10:52 PM.

10-13-2009, 11:19 PM	#14
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10-14-2009, 08:54 AM	#17
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