factory shoulder belts, who has seen them? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

mtdave2 · 01-18-2003, 01:28 PM

im thinking this is probably in the top 5 for rare options. anyone ever seethem? there is one nos black belt on ebay. i have seen maybe 3 n there in the last 4 years. these things are rare as hell...for me at least.

id give a left nut for a set of blue ones for my truck. someone said they make reproductions. anyone know about this/

here is is ebay belt
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=34206

Hutch · 01-18-2003, 01:51 PM

Hey Dave:
These guys are out of Tyler and are the best in the business.
There service is restoration of vintage belts, but if you drop them a line a I am sure they can provide you with some advice.

SSnake Oyl Products

keenee · 01-18-2003, 02:07 PM

Hey Dave, I'm with you, I also want sholder belts, but have never even seen them. The one on e-bay is the first picture I have ever seen! How does it work? Does it replace the lap belt, or is it used along with it? When I was a kid I remember seeing mopars that double buckled, the lap and the sholder belt. From the pic it appears that it replaces the lap belt. These things are, in my opinion, the most rare of the options, Good Luck, I know I need it!

mtdave2 · 01-18-2003, 04:00 PM

im not totaly sure how it works. i think the one on ebay is for a blazer or something. how does the retracter work? hum id love to see a close up shot of one installed

chevyguy · 01-18-2003, 05:01 PM

A few weeks back I installed 94 silverado seat belts in my 69 chevy truck. I already had the 94 seat so the belts matched. I only had to drill one hole through the floor on each side to mount the entire belt set. I used the factory shoulder belt holes to mount the upper part of the belts. Looks great and is comfortable to use. I upgraded because of safety issues and the added hp of my new engine.

keenee · 01-18-2003, 05:28 PM

OK, Without sounding rude, I want to say that I know that other seatbelts will work, but this thread is asking has anyone ever seen a factory shoulder belt? If you have ever seen one would you say so here. I know there has to be someone out there who has. If so tell the rest of us how they work. Thank you

XXL · 01-18-2003, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by keenee
OK, Without sounding rude...

Too late.

And it appears to me that the original poster was also interested in repros. Are we allowed to comment on that?

Downtown · 01-18-2003, 06:41 PM

Okay, I fess up I have an NOS set of black ones. NO, THEY ARE NOT FOR SALE (this is typed with a smile on my face not a scowel. Just thought we should get that out of the way) The setup was pretty primitive compared to now. These belts were in addition to the regular setup. There was another lap belt on the same bolt as regular lap belt. The other part (male end) attached to the bolt hole in the cab pillar. This was a stationary belt that did not retract. On the plastic cover that covered the top of the belt, there was an indentation. The idea was to push the chrome part of the belt back up in the plastic for storage. The indentation would set in the square hole in the metal and hold it in place. Look at the pic on ebay and you will see the indentation. I have heard that some reproductions were made but they did not have the indent in the plastic. I would get you some pics but the belts are stored away for now. I believe ROD on the board has a pic of a complete set that was sold on ebay several years ago. Maybe he will post it if he still has it.

69oldie · 01-18-2003, 06:42 PM

play nice!!

**Joesjunk** · 01-18-2003, 06:53 PM

Ok, I also have them in my 1971 1/2ton 4x4. I hope this pic help you out.

keenee · 01-18-2003, 07:13 PM

XXL , Chevyguy and all the board, I am sorry. I did not notice the question on repos at the end of mtdave2's post. I will try and read the post more carefully in the future.

Downtown and Joesjunk, I also thank you for clearing up the question of the oem belt, and also the reproduction belt.

mtdave2 · 01-18-2003, 08:21 PM

i guess i dont understand how you click these things in. you say you use the sholder belt with the normal belts? that would mean there would be 3 ends!! the male and female ends of the lap belt, and the end of the shoulder belt. how do the go together?

oh, when i say repro, i mean a reproduction of the oem stuff. i know there are many newer truck belts that work great but that subject had been covered a lot.

i havent seen much on the orginal set up, i find it really interesting and im getting that feeling again.. lol you all know what i mean. once you get something in your head, you will end up buying it... lol addition is fun huh,

69-Chevy-350 · 01-18-2003, 08:32 PM

it appers in my truck I had them as I have holes in the cab for the shoulder mount and there is like scuff marks from the setup. It's funny how seat belts can make a guy drool. I plan on going back to the shouldr belts, but maybe using a more modern belt just I can figure out how to use it.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 01-18-2003, 09:14 PM

I have 2 complete sets of shoulder harness seatbelts. Joesjunk's shoulder harness seat belts are the ones that came stock from the factory. The picture of the one on e-bay is something different than that. The ones that Joesjunk has is what all the factory one looked like from 67-72. The one on e-bay may be a replacement or something like that, but at least with what the picture looks like it isn't truck. That is just my opinion, however I do have a picture of a complete dated set of 67's that you can look at and my dated 72's that I removed myself from a truck with them on the option sheet are exactly the same, with the exception of the female ends. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

mtdave2 · 01-18-2003, 09:42 PM

so you have to buckel 2 times?

Longhorn Man · 01-18-2003, 09:58 PM

Longhorn Jeff had this option on his old Longhorn...but I never did get to see it.

Downtown · 01-18-2003, 10:10 PM

Maybe I can clear it up a little. You have your male and female belts. You would connect the retractable male belt on the floor to a female buckle. Normal setup. Then you would pull the male shoulder harness out of its plastic cover and connect to another separate female belt. You have two separate, but identical female belts on the same bolt. Two separate male belts. One retratable on the floor and one stationary on the cab pillar. I hope this helps clear it up.

mtdave2 · 01-18-2003, 10:52 PM

ok, i want a set,, have to have a set ... ugh!!!! ill never find a blue set though =(

mkmiller1 · 01-18-2003, 11:38 PM

OK, ready to puke!!! I found a set of these(red ones) about a year or so ago in a "homemade" pulpwood truck. Problem was, the belt was cut out of them. I remember the listing on the GB door for them(don't remeber the code). I could never catch the guy there and finally went back one day and the truck was gone. What a bummer!!!
Matthew

*Phillip Johnson* · 01-19-2003, 01:53 AM

I have a buddy in Chico Calif that has them in his 70 GMC along with factory cruse and tilt... Awsome truck

mtdave2 · 01-19-2003, 04:19 PM

any more picts out there?

jays68yak · 01-19-2003, 05:06 PM

where these an option for the suburbans? I was looking at my burban and saw holes up by the headliner for all three rows of seats. Anyone ever seen them in the burbans? How about using newer style suburban seat belts? Will they fit?

Dandeluxe · 01-19-2003, 06:13 PM

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mtdave2 · 01-20-2003, 12:00 AM

the ones at chevyduty are genaric type. they are not like the orginal. darn it. this might take a long time to find.

Brad · 01-21-2003, 08:16 PM

FWIW, if you do find a truck where the belts are cut, you could have the webbing replaced. I took an S-10 belt to an aircraft upholstery shop and had this done. He could only do black, but with a search you could probably find webbing in the color you want. See the FAQ regarding my seatbelts.

01-18-2003, 01:28 PM	#1
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	factory shoulder belts, who has seen them? im thinking this is probably in the top 5 for rare options. anyone ever seethem? there is one nos black belt on ebay. i have seen maybe 3 n there in the last 4 years. these things are rare as hell...for me at least. id give a left nut for a set of blue ones for my truck. someone said they make reproductions. anyone know about this/ here is is ebay belt http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=34206 __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

01-18-2003, 01:51 PM	#2
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	Hey Dave: These guys are out of Tyler and are the best in the business. There service is restoration of vintage belts, but if you drop them a line a I am sure they can provide you with some advice. SSnake Oyl Products __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

01-18-2003, 02:07 PM	#3
keenee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Pennsylvania Posts: 231	Hey Dave, I'm with you, I also want sholder belts, but have never even seen them. The one on e-bay is the first picture I have ever seen! How does it work? Does it replace the lap belt, or is it used along with it? When I was a kid I remember seeing mopars that double buckled, the lap and the sholder belt. From the pic it appears that it replaces the lap belt. These things are, in my opinion, the most rare of the options, Good Luck, I know I need it! __________________ '96 GMC Suburban 6.5t '99 F**d Windstar '07 SON '09 DAUGHTER XOXOXO Wife

01-18-2003, 04:00 PM	#4
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	im not totaly sure how it works. i think the one on ebay is for a blazer or something. how does the retracter work? hum id love to see a close up shot of one installed __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

01-18-2003, 05:01 PM	#5
chevyguy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frontenac, Kansas Posts: 13	seat belts A few weeks back I installed 94 silverado seat belts in my 69 chevy truck. I already had the 94 seat so the belts matched. I only had to drill one hole through the floor on each side to mount the entire belt set. I used the factory shoulder belt holes to mount the upper part of the belts. Looks great and is comfortable to use. I upgraded because of safety issues and the added hp of my new engine.

01-18-2003, 05:28 PM	#6
keenee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Pennsylvania Posts: 231	OK, Without sounding rude, I want to say that I know that other seatbelts will work, but this thread is asking has anyone ever seen a factory shoulder belt? If you have ever seen one would you say so here. I know there has to be someone out there who has. If so tell the rest of us how they work. Thank you __________________ '96 GMC Suburban 6.5t '99 F**d Windstar '07 SON '09 DAUGHTER XOXOXO Wife

01-18-2003, 06:41 PM	#8
Downtown Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: New Palestine, IN Posts: 470	seat belts Okay, I fess up I have an NOS set of black ones. NO, THEY ARE NOT FOR SALE (this is typed with a smile on my face not a scowel. Just thought we should get that out of the way) The setup was pretty primitive compared to now. These belts were in addition to the regular setup. There was another lap belt on the same bolt as regular lap belt. The other part (male end) attached to the bolt hole in the cab pillar. This was a stationary belt that did not retract. On the plastic cover that covered the top of the belt, there was an indentation. The idea was to push the chrome part of the belt back up in the plastic for storage. The indentation would set in the square hole in the metal and hold it in place. Look at the pic on ebay and you will see the indentation. I have heard that some reproductions were made but they did not have the indent in the plastic. I would get you some pics but the belts are stored away for now. I believe ROD on the board has a pic of a complete set that was sold on ebay several years ago. Maybe he will post it if he still has it. __________________ 72 Shortbed fleetside 402 BB, AC, Posi 72 Super Cheyenne Longbed 350 49,000 original miles and My dad ordered it new 66 Chevy Caprice 2 dr 74 Honda CB750 New Palestine, IN Last edited by Downtown; 01-18-2003 at 06:51 PM.

01-18-2003, 06:42 PM	#9
69oldie Never too many LONGHORNS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Los Angeles Calififornia Posts: 423	play nice!!

01-18-2003, 06:53 PM	#10
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,691	Shoulder belts Ok, I also have them in my 1971 1/2ton 4x4. I hope this pic help you out. Attached Images __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

01-18-2003, 07:13 PM	#11
keenee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Pennsylvania Posts: 231	XXL , Chevyguy and all the board, I am sorry. I did not notice the question on repos at the end of mtdave2's post. I will try and read the post more carefully in the future. Downtown and Joesjunk, I also thank you for clearing up the question of the oem belt, and also the reproduction belt. __________________ '96 GMC Suburban 6.5t '99 F**d Windstar '07 SON '09 DAUGHTER XOXOXO Wife

01-18-2003, 08:21 PM	#12
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	i guess i dont understand how you click these things in. you say you use the sholder belt with the normal belts? that would mean there would be 3 ends!! the male and female ends of the lap belt, and the end of the shoulder belt. how do the go together? oh, when i say repro, i mean a reproduction of the oem stuff. i know there are many newer truck belts that work great but that subject had been covered a lot. i havent seen much on the orginal set up, i find it really interesting and im getting that feeling again.. lol you all know what i mean. once you get something in your head, you will end up buying it... lol addition is fun huh, __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban Last edited by mtdave2; 01-18-2003 at 08:25 PM.

01-18-2003, 08:32 PM	#13
69-Chevy-350 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 27	it appers in my truck I had them as I have holes in the cab for the shoulder mount and there is like scuff marks from the setup. It's funny how seat belts can make a guy drool. I plan on going back to the shouldr belts, but maybe using a more modern belt just I can figure out how to use it. __________________ 69 Chevy V8 350 (Project Truck) 97 Chevy Blazer LT (Daily Driver) 81 BMW 528i Fully Restored

01-18-2003, 09:14 PM	#14
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	I have 2 complete sets of shoulder harness seatbelts. Joesjunk's shoulder harness seat belts are the ones that came stock from the factory. The picture of the one on e-bay is something different than that. The ones that Joesjunk has is what all the factory one looked like from 67-72. The one on e-bay may be a replacement or something like that, but at least with what the picture looks like it isn't truck. That is just my opinion, however I do have a picture of a complete dated set of 67's that you can look at and my dated 72's that I removed myself from a truck with them on the option sheet are exactly the same, with the exception of the female ends. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys Last edited by Classic Heartbeat; 10-04-2007 at 06:48 PM.

01-18-2003, 09:42 PM	#15
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	so you have to buckel 2 times? __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

01-18-2003, 09:58 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Longhorn Jeff had this option on his old Longhorn...but I never did get to see it.



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01-18-2003, 10:10 PM	#17
Downtown Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: New Palestine, IN Posts: 470	Maybe I can clear it up a little. You have your male and female belts. You would connect the retractable male belt on the floor to a female buckle. Normal setup. Then you would pull the male shoulder harness out of its plastic cover and connect to another separate female belt. You have two separate, but identical female belts on the same bolt. Two separate male belts. One retratable on the floor and one stationary on the cab pillar. I hope this helps clear it up. __________________ 72 Shortbed fleetside 402 BB, AC, Posi 72 Super Cheyenne Longbed 350 49,000 original miles and My dad ordered it new 66 Chevy Caprice 2 dr 74 Honda CB750 New Palestine, IN

01-18-2003, 10:52 PM	#18
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	ok, i want a set,, have to have a set ... ugh!!!! ill never find a blue set though =( __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

01-18-2003, 11:38 PM	#19
mkmiller1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Magnolia, Arkansas Posts: 1,091	belts OK, ready to puke!!! I found a set of these(red ones) about a year or so ago in a "homemade" pulpwood truck. Problem was, the belt was cut out of them. I remember the listing on the GB door for them(don't remeber the code). I could never catch the guy there and finally went back one day and the truck was gone. What a bummer!!! Matthew __________________ GOD is good...All the time! '71 swb custom10 barn find-68K original miles 72 K5 CST rust bucket, but runs and drives 84K miles

01-19-2003, 01:53 AM	#20
Phillip Johnson Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 1,580	I have a buddy in Chico Calif that has them in his 70 GMC along with factory cruse and tilt... Awsome truck

01-19-2003, 04:19 PM	#21
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	any more picts out there? __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

01-19-2003, 05:06 PM	#22
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	where these an option for the suburbans? I was looking at my burban and saw holes up by the headliner for all three rows of seats. Anyone ever seen them in the burbans? How about using newer style suburban seat belts? Will they fit? __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-19-2003, 06:13 PM	#23
Dandeluxe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: st.louis mo. Posts: 717	BELTS CHECK OUT CHEVYDUTY THEY HAVE A SPECIAL GOIN RIGHT NOW __________________ 1969 cst swb 350/400 th . DANNY C . ["]FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE F@RD$!! 1969 cst swb corvette hugger orange with 400 hp sbc I started out with nothing and i held on to it

01-20-2003, 12:00 AM	#24
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,508	the ones at chevyduty are genaric type. they are not like the orginal. darn it. this might take a long time to find. __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

01-21-2003, 08:16 PM	#25
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,673	FWIW, if you do find a truck where the belts are cut, you could have the webbing replaced. I took an S-10 belt to an aircraft upholstery shop and had this done. He could only do black, but with a search you could probably find webbing in the color you want. See the FAQ regarding my seatbelts. __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten...

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