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SCOTI · 10-23-2009, 12:59 AM

Anyone make their PHB mount? I'm going to be making mine because of the drop needed (3" below the frame rail) & thought there might be a 'simple' version of something vs. the idea currently rattling around in my noggin.

Post up pics or links for inspiration....

LkyDevilz72 · 10-23-2009, 01:11 AM

Well, what exactly is a PHB mount?

**kev2809** · 10-23-2009, 06:15 AM

im guessing panhand bar mount?

SCOTI · 10-23-2009, 09:11 AM

Yes, PHB means Pan Hard Bar.

XXL · 10-23-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Yes, PHB means Pan Hard Bar.

It's a Panhard bar-- one word. Panhard is the French family's name that owned the Panhard Automobile Company in the early 20th century that invented, and originally implemented the method for controlling suspension geometry. It's pronounced "Pinard" or "Puhnard."

Bonus educational moment: The Watt's Link was invented by James Watt in 1784 (one of the key contributors to the Industrial Revolution, which changed our world forever). His implementation was used on a Newcomen-based steam engine to keep the piston arm roughly centered in its stroke. Contrary to common perception, a Watt's link does not create a truly linear alignment, but rather it follows the straightmost section of a standard logistic sigmoid function or Lemniscate of Bernoulli.

SCOTI · 10-23-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XXL

It's a Panhard bar-- one word. Panhard is the French family's name that owned the Panhard Automobile Company in the early 20th century that invented, and originally implemented the method for controlling suspension geometry. It's pronounced "Pinard" or "Puhnard."

I actually knew this. But for the masses on the WWW, it's commonly referred to as a PHB thus my basic break down.

jlaird · 10-23-2009, 06:00 PM

never heard of them referred to as PHB...

XXL likes google

lotik · 10-23-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jlaird

never heard of them referred to as PHB...

XXL likes google

or wikipedia.

smashingchuck · 10-24-2009, 10:04 AM

Scoti-
I would start with a piece of square tubing, cut one side off it, drill a hole in it for the bolt, viola!

I'm think of something similar to the on in the picture.

*Shane* · 10-24-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lotik

or wikipedia.

or basic Physics and/or Mechanics class in engineering school ...

SCOTI · 10-24-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smashingchuck

Scoti-
I would start with a piece of square tubing, cut one side off it, drill a hole in it for the bolt, viola!

I'm think of something similar to the on in the picture.

The issue w/this is the amount of drop will require some triangulation on a set-up like that. Right now, I've got the 'base' that's the width of the frame rail bottom & it will bolt in where the original was riveted (frame rail & triangulating c.member). I'll prob make some 'tabs' that drop down to the height I need & go from there.

I was thinking maybe someone here might reference something that would boost my brain-storming process.

mullit · 10-24-2009, 07:27 PM

X 2

SCOTI · 12-11-2009, 12:34 AM

Got it all finished up tonight. No pics yet cause I need some hardware for a 100% complete installation. I'll post up some pics after tomorrow....

**lolife99** · 12-11-2009, 08:52 AM

subscribing,...

SCOTI · 12-15-2009, 01:30 AM

I made poster-board templates for the basic shapes needed & transferred them to .1875 steel . . .....

SCOTI · 12-15-2009, 01:32 AM

Drilled the holes to secure the plate to the side of the frame making sure it was plumb. This allowed everything to be put in place & tacked together . . ....

SCOTI · 12-15-2009, 01:35 AM

Everything temporarily in place to see if I like the set-up . . ....

SCOTI · 12-15-2009, 01:40 AM

I left the camera @ the shop w/the most recent pics. I figured I would @ least get the ones I'd already down-loaded from the camera on here so you could see my crap.

I'll finish up tomorrow w/the final bracket.

**kev2809** · 12-15-2009, 01:40 AM

you have cartoon handwriting lol. like a comic book...

anyways..

that's looks nice. is it because of your setup to why you would to make those?

SCOTI · 12-15-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kev2809

you have cartoon handwriting lol. like a comic book...

anyways..

that's looks nice. is it because of your setup to why you would to make those?

The Panhard bar works best when set-up parallel @ ride height to minimize the side shift as the suspension cycles.

The OE frame brackets put the Panhard bar too close to the differential cover (both the 65 & 68 brackets) & wouldn't allow the bar to be parallel @ ride height. This bracket solved both issues & can be adjusted w/possible future changes....

SCOTI · 12-16-2009, 12:45 AM

Mounted & 'cleaned' up so it's less bulky....

texastrendz · 12-16-2009, 12:50 AM

where does it hit the rearend at, it looks like it goes rail to rail, im missing something

FnLow69 · 12-16-2009, 12:51 AM

Very nice, looks clean and purpose built.

**lolife99** · 12-16-2009, 12:59 AM

Very NICE!

SCOTI · 12-16-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by texastrendz

where does it hit the rearend at, it looks like it goes rail to rail, im missing something

The pass side attaches to the back of the truck arm & the OE drivers side bracket attached to the bottom of the frame. The OE mounts put the bar right against the differential cover & too close to the frame (not level @ ride height).

This mount moved the centerline of the mount further back (about 1") & dropped it level. Since it's adjustable, I can get it perfect once the truck is loaded (just in case my ride height measurements aren't 100% correct).

10-23-2009, 12:59 AM	#1
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Custom PHB Mounts? Anyone make their PHB mount? I'm going to be making mine because of the drop needed (3" below the frame rail) & thought there might be a 'simple' version of something vs. the idea currently rattling around in my noggin. Post up pics or links for inspiration.... __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-23-2009, 01:11 AM	#2
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10-23-2009, 06:15 AM	#3
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10-23-2009, 09:11 AM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? Yes, PHB means Pan Hard Bar. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-23-2009, 06:00 PM	#7
jlaird Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: johnstown, NY Posts: 2,393	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? never heard of them referred to as PHB... XXL likes google Last edited by jlaird; 10-23-2009 at 06:01 PM.

10-24-2009, 10:04 AM	#9
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? Scoti- I would start with a piece of square tubing, cut one side off it, drill a hole in it for the bolt, viola! I'm think of something similar to the on in the picture. Attached Images __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build Last edited by smashingchuck; 10-24-2009 at 12:11 PM.

10-24-2009, 07:27 PM	#12
mullit Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: connecticut Posts: 127	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? X 2

12-11-2009, 12:34 AM	#13
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? Got it all finished up tonight. No pics yet cause I need some hardware for a 100% complete installation. I'll post up some pics after tomorrow.... __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-11-2009, 08:52 AM	#14
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12-15-2009, 01:30 AM	#15
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? I made poster-board templates for the basic shapes needed & transferred them to .1875 steel . . ..... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-15-2009, 01:32 AM	#16
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? Drilled the holes to secure the plate to the side of the frame making sure it was plumb. This allowed everything to be put in place & tacked together . . .... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.* Last edited by SCOTI; 12-15-2009 at 01:33 AM.

12-15-2009, 01:35 AM	#17
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? Everything temporarily in place to see if I like the set-up . . .... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-15-2009, 01:40 AM	#18
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? I left the camera @ the shop w/the most recent pics. I figured I would @ least get the ones I'd already down-loaded from the camera on here so you could see my crap. I'll finish up tomorrow w/the final bracket. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-15-2009, 01:40 AM	#19
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,175	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? you have cartoon handwriting lol. like a comic book... anyways.. that's looks nice. is it because of your setup to why you would to make those? __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

12-16-2009, 12:45 AM	#21
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? Mounted & 'cleaned' up so it's less bulky.... Attached Images __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*



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12-16-2009, 12:50 AM	#22
texastrendz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: HOUSTON TX Posts: 1,161	Re: Custom PHB Mounts? where does it hit the rearend at, it looks like it goes rail to rail, im missing something

12-16-2009, 12:51 AM	#23
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